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darkpagandeath

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Enshrined in the US constitution. Just like Bear arms...

A part of the constitution literally lethal to thousands of its own citizens every year.

Trent Houseboat

moneymad wrote: »

The US Unemployment rate is well over 20%.

Source? That's way off what's reported, it wasn't that bad in the aftermath of the 2008 crash.

RobertKK

Another executive order, this time banning the lobbying of administration officials for 5 years.

Billy86

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

Source? That's way off what's reported, it wasn't that bad in the aftermath of the 2008 crash.

You missed something important, which is that moneymad is posting from 2-3 years in the future.

darkpagandeath

MightyMandarin wrote: »

'Capitalism' is not a reason. You're using a cop-out now. 2 parents on min. wage in Ireland can support a family, why can't it be the same in the US? or are we not capitalist?

We give subvention to business here via SW. They don't tend to do that in the USA.

darkpagandeath

Deleted User wrote: »

A part of the constitution literally lethal to thousands of its own citizens every year.

Aye, But the constitution is akin to god and has only been added to nothing will ever be removed.

rossie1977

moneymad wrote: »

The US Unemployment rate is well over 20%.

Even trumps own spokesman couldn't spin that bs anymore when asked straight out during the week http://uk.businessinsider.com/sean-spicer-unemployment-rate-2017-1?r=US&IR=T

Billy86

RobertKK wrote: »

Another executive order, this time banning the lobbying of administration officials for 5 years.

Completely hollow after his cabinet appointments. Who needs the oil industry to lobby to lobby the secretary of state when the secretary of state is an oil CEO for example? And who do Wall Street need to lobby when there's about a half dozen of their own guys in the very top spots in government?

Trent Houseboat

RobertKK wrote: »

Another executive order, this time banning the lobbying of administration officials for 5 years.

Its a good move if they can enforce it.

Does anyone know why he's signing so many executive orders. Obama did it because congress refused to work with him, but Trump has a majority. Working with Congress would have avoided leaving people stranded in airports.
Could it just be for the photo ops?

MightyMandarin

darkpagandeath wrote: »

We give subvention to business here via SW. They don't tend to do that in the USA.

Any examples of these supports?

You must be under the assumption that businesses are all small businesses which is what Chambers of Commerce' always try to act like when demanding low min. wage. The fact is all those MNC's can well afford to pay more than $10/hr.

C. Montgomery Gurns

C. Montgomery Gurns wrote: »

What has she done about the Cologne rapes? Some of those caught have received suspended sentences and are still in the country. She's a miserable old childless witch that couldn't give a toss about her people.

Could you link a case where a person convicted of rape was given a suspended sentence? I have seen examples of immigrants groping and kissing getting suspended sentences...which incidentally seems to be an activity Donald Trump would positively applaud.

And explain the "childless witch" reference. It seems to be offensive just for the sake of it.

Billy86

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

Its a good move if they can enforce it.

Does anyone know why he's signing so many executive orders. Obama did it because congress refused to work with him, but Trump has a majority. Working with Congress would have avoided leaving people stranded in airports.
Could it just be for the photo ops?

Either that, or he's trying to push through as much as possible as fast as possible because he knows something we don't that could impact how long he is in office.

Trent Houseboat

Billy86 wrote: »

You missed something important, which is that moneymad is posting from 2-3 years in the future.

That solves the mystery of the €88 million lotto winner so.

darkpagandeath

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Any examples of these supports?

You must be under the assumption that businesses are all small businesses which is what Chambers of Commerce' always try to act like when demanding low min. wage. The fact is all those MNC's can well afford to pay more than $10/hr.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/social_welfare_payments_to_families_and_children/family_income_supplement.html

darkpagandeath

Deleted User wrote: »

Could you link a case where a person convicted of rape was given a suspended sentence? I have seen examples of immigrants groping and kissing getting suspended sentences...which incidentally seems to be an activity Donald Trump would positively applaud.

And explain the "childless witch" reference. It seems to be offensive just for the sake of it.

:pac: No one has called Trump names ever... Have they been called out ?

Akrasia

darkpagandeath wrote: »

4 year olds have passports ? No matter how people try to spin this. Asking for ID in any situation is not Racist. Not wanting to bother getting ID is their own fault.

Elections are a numbers game. It's not racist to implement voter Id lawa, it's just electoral fraud when you deliberately place barriers to put your opponents voters off voting, or gerrymander districts or strike voters off registers, or reduce the number of polling stations in certain areas....

Calling it racism is clouding the issue, the GOP know what demographic classes vote for which party and they rig the election to maximise their likely voters, and block opposition voters from voting

darkpagandeath

darkpagandeath wrote: »

:pac: No one has called Trump names ever... Have they been called out ?

I presume they have. I just don't agree with the idea that this means it's a free for all.

Presumably the poster can answer whether he views childlessness as legitimate material for abuse. Do you?

A Little Pony

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

What a load of rubbish!

No it isn't. People need to believe this current American regime is more than just one man. It is an entire entourage of very nasty people and the natural successor to the Dubya years. I hear everywhere people wishing for Trump to be shot dead. The minute that happens is when the REAL trouble starts. The regime will still be there and will then have an excuse to implement an emergency regime in the name of 'National Security'. Russia, China, Iran, anyone you want can be blamed for the assassination. Ethnic minorities could be rounded up and all along, Trump's killers would be from his own side. Trump is merely a novice dealing with ruthless and evil professionals whose aim seems to be total militarisation and extreme rightwing control of America.

No one wanting to kill him will get within a mile of him.

moneymad

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Read this.

It hasn't been anywhere near 20% in the past 10yrs. Dunno wtf you're on about.

That is idiotic. Why do you think they voted for Trump? At best it's 11% at worst it's in the 20's.
Labor force participation rates are at generation lows.
The unemployment rate is falling in tandem with the labor force participation rate. The dog on the street knows the 4.9% number is not a reflection of the us jobs market.

MightyMandarin

darkpagandeath wrote: »

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/social_welfare_payments_to_families_and_children/family_income_supplement.html

Nothing to do with businesses and you ignored the second half of my post. So I'll ask again: Why can't American workers earn a fair wage?

MightyMandarin

moneymad wrote: »

That is idiotic. Why do you think they voted for Trump? At best it's 11% at worst it's in the 20's.
Labor force participation rates are at generation lows.
The unemployment rate is falling in tandem with the labor force participation rate. The dog on the street knows the 4.9% number is not a reflection of the us jobs market.

The dog on the street could read properly and see it's 4.7 and not 4.9%

darkpagandeath

Deleted User wrote: »

I presume they have. I just don't agree with the idea that this means it's a free for all.

Presumably the poster can answer whether he views childlessness as legitimate material for abuse. Do you?

I did not support it.

darkpagandeath

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Nothing to do with businesses and you ignored the second half of my post. So I'll ask again: Why can't American workers earn a fair wage?

Yes it does, You can pay very little and the SW picks up the rest very simple. American workers cant have a fair wage as explained due to Capitalism. America love Capitalism.

Many SW schemes designed to support business here paying little. But this is not about Ireland.

A Little Pony

Why are lawyers at JFK?

moneymad

MightyMandarin wrote: »

The dog on the street could read properly and see it's 4.7 and not 4.9%

Trump getting into the white house with a 4.7 number. You're daft.

darkpagandeath

A Little Pony wrote: »

Why are lawyers at JFK?

Smell money, Even if the cases are lost for example.

darkpagandeath

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I did not support it.

You didn't object, you did seek to legitimise it by saying that Trump has been abused.

So for clarification, you are confirming the reference to childlessness as a form of abuse is objectionable? And that you agree with me?

MightyMandarin

moneymad wrote: »

Trump getting into the white house with a 4.7 number. You're daft.

Read the bloody figures you clown.

darkpagandeath

Deleted User wrote: »

You didn't object, you did seek to legitimise it by saying that Trump has been abused.

So for clarification, you are confirming the reference to childlessness as a form of abuse is objectionable? And that you agree with me?

I did not support it, I pointed out people in glass houses. The level of abuse on both sides is beyond a joke. But At least the Trump lads are not setting people on fire or smashed up Washington. Madonna threatened to burn down the white house that's just crazy.

MightyMandarin

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Yes it does, You can pay very little and the SW picks up the rest very simple. American workers cant have a fair wage as explained due to Capitalism. America love Capitalism.

Many SW schemes designed to support business here paying little. But this is not about Ireland.

And yet Ireland is still a capitalist system, so why can't they implement the policies we have here? Would you be in favour of implementing these policies?