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Clerical Officer Campaign 2016

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Creol1


    SeanOS92 wrote: »
    Just applied there now. Just wondering is that initial standard application all we have to submit at this stage or is there more to submit? Just feels a bit under whelming, Thought there'd be more questions and stuff.

    That's it for now. Next stage will be tests.


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭CloudCumulus


    I was the same, all gearing myself up for questions and then it was just a two minute form! Good to know it's not just ne who found it underwhelming.


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 SeanOS92


    Yeah I thought that alright, surprised i didn't need to upload a CV, i thought I would have. Anyone know how the tests are conducted, is it online thing, or in person in a test centre ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 Wolf00


    Hi, anyone know what the course Career Services are running are like? Are they worth it? Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭Danielle D


    SeanOS92 wrote:
    Yeah I thought that alright, surprised i didn't need to upload a CV, i thought I would have. Anyone know how the tests are conducted, is it online thing, or in person in a test centre ?


    First round is online tests then supervised tests then interview if I remember correctly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭Saysay19


    Wolf00 wrote: »
    Hi, anyone know what the course Career Services are running are like? Are they worth it? Thanks.

    Hi Wolf

    I attended this course last month.
    I applied for the CO competition in 2014 and missed out by 5 marks in the numerical testing. After going to the course I feel more confident with the maths and even more confident with verbal reasoning and error checking.

    I'm glad I went!


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭CloudCumulus


    Sounds like an interesting course, I think numerical always lets me down too. Does anyone know where to find more details re length, location, price etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    Sounds like an interesting course, I think numerical always lets me down too. Does anyone know where to find more details re length, location, price etc?

    http://careerservices.ie/clerical-officer


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 Wolf00


    Thanks for that, think I'll give it a go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭prettyboy81


    eraj wrote: »
    Hi, how to apply for taht will that be posted on publicjobs or different link to follow/apply

    Will be advertised on www.dublincity.ie website from 16th June. Not sure what publications will be used.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 natec12


    Could someone please point me in the direction of practice tests? I know there's some examples on the pas website but if anyone knew of books, websites etc I'd be grateful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭prettyboy81


    natec12 wrote: »
    Could someone please point me in the direction of practice tests? I know there's some examples on the pas website but if anyone knew of books, websites etc I'd be grateful.

    They can be found on publicjobs.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Stormington


    Hello, I have a few questions with regard to the regional preferences

    If I state I want to apply for Dublin & Kildare, am I excluded from all positions other than those two or is there a possibility I will be offered something outside those locations if positions in those areas are filled up?

    If I am offered a position in Dublin will I no longer be in consideration for a position in Dublin alone or both Dublin and Kildare? And if I refuse the Dublin offer, will I be out of consideration for an appointment entirely?

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 Wolf00


    natec12 wrote: »
    Could someone please point me in the direction of practice tests? I know there's some examples on the pas website but if anyone knew of books, websites etc I'd be grateful.

    I bought a book, Perfect Numerical Test Results. Think it was around €10.
    I presume we can use calculators??? Anyone know? Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭egan2020


    Hello, I have a few questions with regard to the regional preferences

    If I state I want to apply for Dublin & Kildare, am I excluded from all positions other than those two or is there a possibility I will be offered something outside those locations if positions in those areas are filled up?

    If I am offered a position in Dublin will I no longer be in consideration for a position in Dublin alone or both Dublin and Kildare? And if I refuse the Dublin offer, will I be out of consideration for an appointment entirely?

    Thanks.

    You won't be offered anything outside of Dublin or Kildare. If you are offered a position in Dublin and refuse, you are off the panel for Dublin but will still be offered something in Kildare if they reach your number.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Stormington


    You won't be offered anything outside of Dublin or Kildare. If you are offered a position in Dublin and refuse, you are off the panel for Dublin but will still be offered something in Kildare if they reach your number.
    Muchas gracias senor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 alocinm


    I'm on the 2014 panel but looks doubtful I'll be getting anything before its cleared so hopefully I'll be more lucky this time round. Best of luck to everyone :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭juncert


    Does anyone one know how many position there are in Dublin in this panel ? Do you need to score really well to be in the run for the interview stage. I have never applied for this before and anymore information would be helpful.Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    Does anyone know how long we will be waiting to do the aptitude tests? I think last time you got the questionnaire first and then after had to the tests.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭LunarSea


    Does anyone know how does the examples for CO testing given on the Public Jobs site compare to the real thing? They seem a bit cushy (aside from the time restraint on error checking).

    Numerical reasoning is a bit of a joke as it's mostly working out percentages and basic arithmetic - primary school stuff - and it states you only need to get 6 out of 20 questions right to pass!

    Don't want to rest on my laurels if the actual tests are a big step up.

    Ta :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Sprog 4


    LunarSea wrote: »
    Does anyone know how does the examples for CO testing given on the Public Jobs site compare to the real thing? They seem a bit cushy (aside from the time restraint on error checking).

    Numerical reasoning is a bit of a joke as it's mostly working out percentages and basic arithmetic - primary school stuff - and it states you only need to get 6 out of 20 questions right to pass!

    Don't want to rest on my laurels if the actual tests are a big step up.

    Ta :)

    I'm sure they are similar. I figured the tests were more about attention to detail during repetitive tasks rather than measuring intellectual ability.

    By the way. If anyone wants a fun way to prepare their mind for this kind of thinking I recommend Papers Please (Currently 50% off for PC/Mac/Linux - also available on iPAD)

    Glory to Arstotzka


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    LunarSea wrote: »
    Does anyone know how does the examples for CO testing given on the Public Jobs site compare to the real thing? They seem a bit cushy (aside from the time restraint on error checking).

    Numerical reasoning is a bit of a joke as it's mostly working out percentages and basic arithmetic - primary school stuff - and it states you only need to get 6 out of 20 questions right to pass!

    Don't want to rest on my laurels if the actual tests are a big step up.

    Ta :)

    Sorry but I find the numerical reasoning very difficult and I'm sure other people do as well, I failed the numerical test in the last campaign and I certainly wouldn't be comparing it to primary school stuff. the examples on public jobs are what you will be given if you find them so easy count yourself lucky cause plenty of others find these tests quite difficult.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭LunarSea


    fin12 wrote: »
    Sorry but I find the numerical reasoning very difficult and I'm sure other people do as well, I failed the numerical test in the last campaign and I certainly wouldn't be comparing it to primary school stuff. the examples on public jobs are what you will be given if you find them so easy count yourself lucky cause plenty of others find these tests quite difficult.

    I genuinely don't mean to cause offence, but that stuff is literally primary school level. The CO level stuff I can do in my head (I thought that was the point of it), but they allow pen/paper and a calculator too.

    If it's something you feel you're weak on, there's tonnes of online resources that can show the logic behind what needs doing and helps you recognise what is being asked (which I've always found to be the best way to learn).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Sprog 4


    LunarSea wrote: »
    I genuinely don't mean to cause offence, but that stuff is literally primary school level. The CO level stuff I can do in my head (I thought that was the point of it), but they allow pen/paper and a calculator too.

    If it's something you feel you're weak on, there's tonnes of online resources that can show the logic behind what needs doing and helps you recognise what is being asked (which I've always found to be the best way to learn).

    Just a heads up. If the stuff is so little challenge to you you will be bored out of your head in a Clerical Officer position.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭LunarSea


    Sprog 4 wrote: »
    Just a heads up. If the stuff is so little challenge to you you will be bored out of your head in a Clerical Officer position.

    It's not that there's no challenge, I just found the numerical stuff incredibly easy compared to the verbal and error checking to the point where I thought I was missing something.

    And I'm glad to hear CO is boring, it's exactly what I'm in the market for!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    LunarSea wrote: »
    I genuinely don't mean to cause offence, but that stuff is literally primary school level. The CO level stuff I can do in my head (I thought that was the point of it), but they allow pen/paper and a calculator too.

    If it's something you feel you're weak on, there's tonnes of online resources that can show the logic behind what needs doing and helps you recognise what is being asked (which I've always found to be the best way to learn).

    Ive already done a course and have plenty of books, it's something I need to constantly work on so it is actually insulting you calling it primary school level stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Sprog 4


    LunarSea wrote: »

    And I'm glad to hear CO is boring, it's exactly what I'm in the market for!

    I didn't say it was boring and in fact it's not boring for people who are suited to it. If a job challenges someone they will develop their skills. If it doesn't they will stagnate and just leave for something else in short order. Being bored day after day sucks, a lot, and is actually an insidious mental health risk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭LunarSea


    fin12 wrote: »
    Ive already done a course and have plenty of books, it's something I need to constantly work on so it is actually insulting you calling it primary school level stuff.

    It's addition, subtraction, multiplication, division and percentages/fractions - you do the first four by the time you hit first class, the latter by about fourth class.

    I'm not trying to insult (sincere apologies if it comes across like that), but I am genuinely questioning the sample tests as I clicked on it and found arithmetic that I first learned in primary school :confused:

    I got my answer, that they are more or less as advertised so I'll say no more (and not to derail). I also genuinely wish you luck with your application and again, apologise if any offence was caused :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭LunarSea


    Sprog 4 wrote: »
    I didn't say it was boring and in fact it's not boring for people who are suited to it. If a job challenges someone they will develop their skills. If it doesn't they will stagnate and just leave for something else in short order. Being bored day after day sucks, a lot, and is actually an insidious mental health risk.

    I don't mean being bored rigid, more that it's not going to be a globe-trotting, life or death stress fest, and you get to leave your work at work and it will leave you with time and energy to pursue your life outside of there to boot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭Canadel


    LunarSea wrote: »
    I genuinely don't mean to cause offence, but that stuff is literally primary school level. The CO level stuff I can do in my head (I thought that was the point of it), but they allow pen/paper and a calculator too.

    If it's something you feel you're weak on, there's tonnes of online resources that can show the logic behind what needs doing and helps you recognise what is being asked (which I've always found to be the best way to learn).
    True. Or at least junior cert maths level. However, no matter how easy or simple a maths equation may seem, if you haven't applied it recently or are not familiar with it, it can be quite difficult. Everyone had to learn their tables and basic algebra at sum stage. And while they are relatively easy to learn in school, it's not as easy as an adult and after years of not using them as I said.

    I do agree that the error checking was far more difficult however. And quite ridiculous. The restrictive time limit was ironic given the whole point of error checking is to pay attention to detail and double check for potential errors. Not race through it and hope for the best. Oh well. Same for everyone.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    Apologies if this was already asked but does everyone get sent these tests after registering or is it only a select few? Also is there any timeline guide as to when you'd expect to get to the test stage after registering?


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 Wolf00


    deise_girl wrote: »
    Apologies if this was already asked but does everyone get sent these tests after registering or is it only a select few? Also is there any timeline guide as to when you'd expect to get to the test stage after registering?

    They are on the publicjobs.ie website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Heart Break Kid


    Clerical Positions 2016 Stage 1 Part A is up from tomorrow, anyone have any tpis or advice on what to expect


  • Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭tiny14


    just got link for part A of assesment i have from tomorrow until wednesday to complete it!!! best of luck to you all!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,986 ✭✭✭mikeym


    Do clerical officers get paid weekly or monthly?


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 SeanOS92


    Whats part A of the Assessment and does everyone get the link all at once or is it done in stages?


  • Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭tiny14


    part A is the self assesment one with different situations an you pick the one that you would do it seems theres no wrong or right in this one its only to see if you would be suited to clerical officer job an i think but could be wrong only had a quick read as im rushing out again that if you get to qualifying standard you are sent part B which is the apitude tests and anyone that applied will be sent this


  • Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭tiny14


    mikeym wrote: »
    Do clerical officers get paid weekly or monthly?

    weeklyðŸ‘ðŸ¼ðŸ‘ðŸ¼


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 SeanOS92


    Has everyone who applied got them already ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭egan2020


    SeanOS92 wrote: »
    Has everyone who applied got them already ?

    No. I got mine but friend who applied the same time didn't get hers yet. Probably being sent out in stages.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 Tpau


    Clerical Positions 2016 Stage 1 Part A is up from tomorrow, anyone have any tpis or advice on what to expect

    There is a pre test info booklet on the email which outlines what to expect. I don't have any advice but good luck all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 SeanOS92


    Just got link, one question though, if i open the link to questionnaire does that mean i have to complete then and there or can open it up have a look at it and click out of it and complete tomorrow ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭LunarSea


    I'm pretty sure once you click the link it's go-time (if you could open it for a gawk you could just back out and spend the next dew days Googling stuff).

    Got my message at five-to-six, so assume they're doing them in batches.

    Good luck to all having a stab at it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    I was at an information session in DCC today about the new roles.

    In short, read the questions on the form. Answer everything. They are anal in what they're looking for.

    I've you've done your LC 30 years ago and have a load of degrees, they still want your results and student number.

    As the hour progressed a little bit more of my soul got destroyed with every section covered.!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭LunarSea


    [QUOTE=Yamileth Fresh Rob;100133785
    I've you've done your LC 30 years ago and have a load of degrees, they still want your results and student number.[/QUOTE]

    Can you elabourate on this?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭LunarSea


    I've you've done your LC 30 years ago and have a load of degrees, they still want your results and student number.

    Can you elabourate on this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    LunarSea wrote: »
    Can you elabourate on this?

    Your leaving cert results are required along with your exam number. Most companies couldn't care less about the LC if you have a higher qualification but this is the public service and they're not like normal companies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭LunarSea


    Your leaving cert results are required along with your exam number. Most companies couldn't care less about the LC if you have a higher qualification but this is the public service and they're not like normal companies.

    Cheers... so when is this required? I have a degree, zero idea what my LC results were (or number).

    Also, if they're placing onto the panel via these psychometric tests then surely qualifications don't matter a jot?

    A friend of mine got in via the 2014 campaign, she has a Masters in science. One of the other girls that got in with her just has her Leaving Cert, but they both did really well on the psychometric tests - none of their qualifications mattered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    LunarSea wrote: »
    Cheers... so when is this required? I have a degree, zero idea what my LC results were (or number).

    Also, if they're placing onto the panel via these psychometric tests then surely qualifications don't matter a jot?

    A friend of mine got in via the 2014 campaign, she has a Masters in science. One of the other girls that got in with her just has her Leaving Cert, but they both did really well on the psychometric tests - none of their qualifications mattered.
    They've not decided on using testing.

    I've a hdip, postgrad and bsc hons and they want my leaving results from 1985.
    They also want every job I've done in 30 years and the names of 4 hr managers in the firms I've worked for.
    I didn't know whether to walk in front of the bus or get on it going home this evening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭LunarSea


    They've not decided on using testing.

    Seriously?

    So all the info provided in the CO info booklet is incorrect? And they're completely changing the hiring process from before and only those in attendance of this meeting are privvy to this information?


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