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Is it time to join Nato

  • 27-02-2022 4:44pm
    Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭ Firblog

    If being an unaligned country with a large army is no deterrent to Putin's ambitions is it time for ROI to join Nato?



  • Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭ Black Noel

    Why not, it's very accurate.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭ Black Noel

    I don't see where that is analogous to our situation. Germany occupied some countries for a few years and were soundly beaten to a pulp for their troubles.

    If other countries had come to our rescue and beaten the brits to a pulp, occupied their country and installed a puppet government, perhaps you'd have an analogous situation 😉

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭ Thelonious Monk

    I thought they'd be signing up in their legions to fight against imperialism in Ukraine.

  • Registered Users Posts: 689 ✭✭✭ Relax brah

    was unaware of state investments during the trouble - have you any specific example of that?

    not questioning your accuracy, just interested in learning more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,661 ✭✭✭ Yurt2

    We were spending about 1.5% of GDP on defence during the Troubles, we spend about .5% now.

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,133 Mod ✭✭✭✭ riffmongous

    Still no as I think we are covered by the EU collective defence policy, without being bound to any required levels of expenditure or American interference. Happy to be corrected on this.

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,594 ✭✭✭✭ RobbingBandit

    No it's not it's bad enough all the UN stuff in the past couple years yet the country hasn't ratified the un rights for people with disabilities, putting the nation at risk just to glorify the cretins that think they represent Ireland to add a new beaver scout badge on their sash is disgusting.

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,973 ✭✭✭✭ Dav010

    They probably don’t care too much about us, they do care about an enemy being a couple of hundred miles from London. So I’m pretty sure they’ve got our back.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭ Phil.x

    Stop spending 1million per day on plastic bollards and cycle lanes and invest in radar and heavy aviation to be somewhat useful to our nato neighbours.

    It will be a great day when salad box ryan and the crazy gang are no more.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,406 ✭✭✭ Polar101

    Ireland can't join Nato - members are expected to contribute to defence. Ireland doesn't have a lot to contribute. So the road to Nato would need big increases in defense, which seems to be a no-no here since it has been decided no-one will ever be hostile to Ireland (despite recent cyber attacks and current world events).

  • Registered Users Posts: 22,955 ✭✭✭✭ Dyr

    We can offer Shannon in case any European NATO member wants to take a massive detour en route to wherever, possibly the Defence Forces have a developed a dance routine for TikTok and Colin Fennelly can still pull hard with a hurl. Truth is, the PSNI backed by a few Orange bands could probably invade us successfully

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Manach

    Perhaps - but first we would need to match spending on Defence as a percentage of GDP as per NATO standards.

  • Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭ Black Noel

    Lol, so you accept they don't give a sh1t about us yet you hold on to the fairy tale that 'they've got our back'.

    You're fooling yourself.

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,973 ✭✭✭✭ Dav010

    The two are not mutually exclusive. They would have our back against any aggressor in the interest of self preservation. Noel, it’s fair to say that the only reason someone would invade Ireland, would be to launch an attack against England.

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,661 ✭✭✭ Yurt2

    Not necessarily true. The 2% of GDP is a target - many countries don't meet it and aren't compelled to meet it. In fact, only 5 treaty members hit or exceed that target.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭ mikethecop

    how are you fixed for the junior cert comrade ?