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Is Dave Chappelle's new special "The Closer" really transphobic?

  • 08-10-2021 8:18am
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    No.

    The usual wokerazzi whingebags would have you believe it is, but the audience loved it, Google reviews currently stand at 95% positive, Rotten Tomatoes currently stand at 82%. Yes, he makes jokes about trans people, but Dave Chappelle has joked about everyone and anyone in his body of work over the decades.

    If you don't like him, don't watch him, but don't expect any special treatment from comics just because you're in a minority group. Life is much better if you learn to laugh at yourself.

    The Closer is on Netflix. Highly recommended.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 30,325 ✭✭✭✭ Penn


    The trouble is the media, and pushing Chappelle saying "I'm Team TERF" in their tweets/headlines meaning that's all people see and therefore claim Chappelle is transphobic. That quote is removed from the context of everything else Chappelle says, and is what people will focus on without having watched the special, or watch it having already seen the "I'm Team TERF" quote and therefore go in prejudiced against it from the start.

    That said, I don't think the special was that good. It was fairly bland for the most part, and I don't think he got across most of the points he was trying to make well enough, certainly not to his usual standard. Some of his previous Netflix specials were much better.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,775 ✭✭✭ Effects


    What sort of intolerance are you accusing them of?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭ Brucie Bonus


    This is the first I've seen of any blowback, or is it reverse blowback? Some people just want to be outraged I guess.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,689 ✭✭✭ el Fenomeno


    I did think this bit was very, very funny when was talking about how the LGBTQ community were mad at him.


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=TT8-5KBInls



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,536 ✭✭✭✭ Rjd2



    I've not seen it or his last few specials tbh, so zero opinion one way or other, but I do wonder how many whether slagging or defending him have actually watched it in full and are just posturing online for likes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,688 ✭✭✭✭ silverharp


    you could view it 2 ways punching down/pushback or Trans have arrived so welcome to the party, enjoy the mosh pit with the rest of society

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭ cocotheclown




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,669 ✭✭✭ Fandymo


    I thought it was quite funny.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭ TomTomTim


    The interesting part is that in the first part of his previous special, he made some jokes about the trans topic. He got some letters/emails of outrage, so he said sorry in the second part. He must of dealt with a serious amount of bullshit since then to go back into that field after saying sorry.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭ Starfire20


    i asked how she had been cancelled. Please provide some evidence of this. (being criticized is not being cancelled)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ the dunne


    Oh right. I tell you what, type "jk Rowling" and "cancelled" into Google and you'll get your answer.

    Plenty of examples there for you.

    Are you really going to attempt to argue this point?



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