Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

mcsean2163

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493339#Comment_118493339

That's your experience and maybe the reason you're here. I know a family WFH that gets all the work done before 2.30 school pick-up. So many people I talk with like WFH and especially when schools open.

Fwiw, WFH was a complete nightmare for me.

daydorunrun

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493265#Comment_118493265

It could be strongly argued that vaccine passports led to more infections when they were introduced- people let their guard down incorrectly believing they had total immunity from infection and transmission of the virus.

I know some people think keeping them is punishment for anti vaxxers- it's not, they have made their choice and are getting on with their lives. We need to be able to do the same without the rigmarole of showing documents for a cup of coffee and the threat of having passes up dated to include boosters. The freedoms we gave away and restrictions we agreed to are not the governments or NPHET to slowly re-issue to us, it's our right. The emergency is over- more people infected in the last couple of months that the rest of the pandemic put together and hospitals no worse than a flu season according to Leo. We need to get rid of all restrictions now, remembering everybody has the right to keep living their lives with masks, social distancing- hell anybody can continue to show proof of vaccination to hospitality staff if they really want. But people in this country have for the majority toed the line and stepped up when it comes to compliance to rules, vaccination etc. They need to be rewarded now.

JRant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493303#Comment_118493303

It's going to get messy for people wanting to travel as well. The EU seem to be really pushing these hard fir the foreseeable.

mcsean2163

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493344#Comment_118493344

Well done, sounds like you got through parenting successfully. It sounds like you have one, in my experience it gets more difficult to juggle with kids of different ages.

I respect your opinion but also the opinion of many in lower socioeconomic groups where we live. The wealthy have abnegated responsibility and we are now in a society where many are happy to sacrifice fun in order to WFH to be there for their kids. It's mad but that is what has happened.

Sorry for your loss.

JRant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493371#Comment_118493371

More power to them and I'm delighted it's working out for them. I've no idea where they work but knocking off at 2:30 every day sounds like heaven.

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493394#Comment_118493394

The EU are only pushing what their members want but members here means France, Italy and any other country with mandatory vaccinations and boosters!

noraos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493418#Comment_118493418

I cant say I have gotten through parenting successfully, I dont think anyone can. I was parenting alone, so everytime I left the house for the second job, it was difficult to juggle even with one, but I did what had to be done. If alot of parents are being honest, they would agree that yes, the lack of commute is great, however the biggest perk to the restrictions for alot was the amount of savings made.. young families, with children's of different ages, were never really going to be effected by the pubs opening hours / live music etc anyway really.. saying they are making sacrifices to wfh is a bit of a stretch to me..

TomTomTim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493494#Comment_118493494

Come on, the EU isn't some bastion of free choice, that simply follows its members desires. As has been mentioned here before, the EU had a vaccine roll out and all the came with it planned since 2019, before we even knew of covid.

vegandinner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493301#Comment_118493301

I cannot understand why this isn’t the headline. We denied so many of so much to protect so few.

noraos

https://justgivemepositivenews.com/

Just to break up the negativity.. NYC seem to be encouraging positive news.. mostly its UK and their lifting of restrictions. But its good to break up the doom and gloom 😊

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493531#Comment_118493531

In this case it is and they stated that they wanted a common approach to both vaccine purchases and travels passes in all member states. Not sure how they could be planning for something that didn't exist in 2019. IIRC discussions about travel passes began in April 2020 and it was driven by tourism concerns.

charlie_says

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493294#Comment_118493294

Yeah all needs to go, and if the teachers are too scared of this they should not be teaching imo. A level of background child abuse has been normalised by the covid cultists. One thing that many of them clearly don't get that the longer this goes on the more the people who aren't going to forget it multiply.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493294#Comment_118493294

Said it before but anybody who considers themselves to be a grown up should be ashamed of this. It used to be that men and women would have sacrificed themselves to protect children, now it seems we trample all over the children to protect ourselves instead. Just when did the integrity of this country get so warped?

Covid could have been ebola and I still would rather catch it than have children locked out of school and barred from playing with their friends, they certainly aren't doing any of this on my behalf.

SusieBlue

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491697#Comment_118491697

By the same logic should they not do something to change their own circumstances so that they have a better work/life balance rather than support policies that caused over a million people to be unemployed for months on end, that caused severe hardship on other peoples children, and for entire industries to stop trading?

Its also laughable to suggest ‘others could realistically change career’, as if it’s something easily done at the drop of a hat.

I didn’t work in any of the main effected industries but I was made redundant in the first lockdown due to a knock on effect from closures and it took me 7 months to find another job, despite being experienced and educated.

And besides, whose going to serve you your coffee or wait your table if the entire hospitality industry embarks on a career change?

We are very quick to use and abuse these workers and industries when it suits us, in particular I think bringing them back to work for just 3 weeks at Christmas 2020 so we could enjoy a ‘meaningful’ celebration was horrible. Those employees worked ridiculous hours for that period of time at the expense of spending time with their own families only to be discarded again on the 23rd of December and prevented from earning a living for half a year afterwards.

There are also the secondary casualties to the restrictions on hospitality - the musicians, the DJ’s, the photographers, and the taxi drivers and so on. The knock on effects go deep.

And the irony is that by using short term thinking to support these policies, they are undoubtedly causing more hardship for their own children in the future - cause it’s our children and grandchildren who will be footing the bill for these reckless and nonsensical lockdowns and restrictions.

VillageIdiot71

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493205#Comment_118493205

And yet there the certs are, just as a by-the-by. Their sole purpose at this stage is to be a sort of "mandatory-lite".

"A further easing of restrictions would then take place at a later date when the requirement on premises would possibly be scaled back to just checking Covid passes.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2022/0118/1274271-coronavirus-ireland/

Plenty of stock, got to do something with it.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/up-to-220-000-doses-of-covid-19-booster-vaccines-may-expire-by-end-of-month-1.4777993

Derkaiser93

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118492829#Comment_118492829

They aren't pcr testing people under 40 anymore so that completely negates your argument. Sounds like you're running a narrative rather than facts but that's to be expected with such a profile picture.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118492829#Comment_118492829

So you were being serious 😦

It also takes about 20 seconds to verify if what you are saying is BS or not

In summary, currently, the information on this dashboard does feature cases identified by reported lateral flow tests for England and Northern Ireland.

https://fullfact.org/health/lateral-flow-tests-covid-counting/

Quags

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493890#Comment_118493890

But didn't NPHET class these Antigen tests as Snake Oil a few months ago but it suits them now to have them as a meaning of positive cases, whereas in the UK they have always used Antigen tests

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493936#Comment_118493936

What NPHET said a few months ago doesn't make the poster less wrong today

Hey boy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493237#Comment_118493237

Whatever the slight difference is here (assuming this is correct) does not IMHO justify the ongoing restrictions.

JRant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493764#Comment_118493764

It's almost like certs and masks are seen as "normal" by government at this stage. Personally, I think we'll be stuck with them for a good while yet.

Quags

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118494026#Comment_118494026

I imagine we are stuck with Certs/Testing for travel, what's scary is the amount of people who will back the gov to keep them domestically

lawred2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118492923#Comment_118492923

Kinda the biggest one

JRant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118494047#Comment_118494047

When is the last time a measure brought in for travel was removed? It almost never happens and there's money to be made fleecing people for tests before they fly as well. Nice little industry after sprouting up around them.

the kelt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493936#Comment_118493936

No, to be specific what they actually said was Lidl antigen tests were snake oil, NPHET have never actually been against them at all, its all just a figment of people imaginations because they see NPHET as being these bad guys looking to stop people from drinking.

Nphet love antigen testing, anyone who cant see that just doesnt understand that they were actually double bluffing here to be against them at the start which meant people would use them more because Nphet were against them. It was their plan to use them all along, now they have everyone using them like they really wanted to begin with. Ye see tey are really clever and everyone who cant see the plan is stupid so yeah always in favour of Antigen tests

Just not lidl ones.

All hail Tony!!

Im surprised some posters havent gone down the "well they specifically only said Lidl antigen tests were snake oil" road.

robbiezero

Nothing epitomizes the utterly dysfunctional relationship between our supposed Government and NPHET than this latest tranche of nonsense of having to wait and see if NPHET approve removing restrictions and hoping Big T lets us away lightly, if he is in a good mood or if Philip Nolans roulette wheel lands on Red.

F**king spineless, useless articles. Why not provide even a modicum of leadership and say unless NPHET provide substantial reasoning backed by evidence not to, that restrictions on hospitality will be completely removed?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118494119#Comment_118494119

It's very much coming across that NPHET just personally despise the hospitality industry and will go to any lengths to keep it closed for as long as possible.

irishgeo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118494119#Comment_118494119

Why bother paying experts if your going not bother listening to them.

Just to note I am all for removing all restrictions ASAP.

TomTomTim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118494244#Comment_118494244

Our experts were given many chances to show their expertise, yet we seen the opposite time and time again. The fact that this even has to be said is a sad reflection on many Irish people.

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118494119#Comment_118494119

Numbers really are pointing the right way in a big way so there is not an awful lot to hide behind. Latest tests have us back where we were before Omicron hit. That alone points towards reversing that 8p.m. thing and the outdoor sport restrictions and a rampant Omicron suggests there will not be a chance of another variant for quite a while.