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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,743 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    This one foot in one foot out nonsense regards to covid is simply not sustainable.

    Allowing a situation develop where otherwise healthy people can obtain a nice break from work on production of a positive test is going to have many critical services creaking.

    Wtf is even the point of these never ending cycles of vaccinations?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Drunken Oaf


    Where is the evidence?

    There are lunatics in positions of influence who believe we should never have fully left lockdown.

    They believe pubs, clubs, music festivals should have never re opened.

    I can see it panning out one of two ways-

    • we all get infected by these summer waves, meaning as we hit the winter we all have immunity, thus there are no winter surges
    • more likely- there isn't a real epidemic of it at the moment. This winter cases soar and the lunatics use it as an excuse to bring back mask mandates and, at the very least, shut nightclubs, restrict gig and sport capacity, 8pm pub closing.

    Tie that in with the fact nobody can be arsed getting vaxxed any more, by October/ November Leo will be on TV spoofing about how this could all end tomorrow evening if only 95% of us would get vaccinated.

    Remember- at the roll out of the vaccines, the target was 88%. We had hit circa 94% by September.

    What did Leo do?

    Gave an interview to German media stating we would be fully back to normal if only the pesky 6% of conspiracy theorists weren't holding us hostage.


    Then we somewhat fully re opened for about two weekends, then shut down again. Only the Gods delivered the beautiful natural vaccine of Omicron, that pretty much the whole population caught and delivered to reality to all but the most ardent Branch Covidians that this thing is largely harmless, we would have been in some form of lockdown up until April.

    People wonder why there are empty units on our shopping streets and our shopping centres. Who in their right mind would rent a unit now, anybody with sense will hold off to see how these incompetents handle the next two winters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,743 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Indeed. And those that don't want to wear masks every winter can be vilified and held responsible for the state's failures to provide a sufficiently capable healthcare system. And the usual useful dopes will be in full vocal support.

    Wins all round.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,743 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Makes no sense to my untrained mind

    Disruption to business over a mild highly contagious virus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Could be they will have it as an advisory

    Less backlash for politicians



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Drunken Oaf


    The thing is, lockdown loons are absolute cookie cutter material. Idiots without an original thought between them.

    Find me a lockdown mask shagger who isn't also:

    End direct provision

    BLM'

    Believes in the climate emergency

    Believes in removal of cars in place of cycling infrastructure

    Believes absolutely everything that comes out of Ukraine

    On Twitter with the pronouns


    You show me one, just one lockdown nutter (aside from the elderly who have been frightened into submission) who doesn't also believe in every one of the above.

    You won't. Because Branch Covidiansm is just one facet of a mind that hates logic, facts and science.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,623 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Is the new chief medical officer taking up her roll tomorrow? It’s going to be interesting to see what ‘advice’ she’ll be giving the government from tomorrow. I wonder what ideas and opinions she has going around in her head, especially to build up a bit of stardom and to be noticed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    It can only go one way if there's action

    You can't ease no-restrictions 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    I wonder will there be a bit of 🥕 and stick with restrictions going forward

    Varadkar will probably be saying if we take the 2nd gen vaccine the restrictions will go

    Uptake is going to be a problem now with vaccination fatigue having set in



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,623 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    You’d imagine with so much prevalence of Omicron around the vaccines wouldn’t be much of a priority . Nearly everyone I know has the virus at the moment including an 80 year old man who brushed it off like water off a ducks back. He said he had worse flu’s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭dominatinMC




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Drunken Oaf


    I believe the most likely source of Covid was it being a bio weapon brought to Wuhan by foreign, probabky American, participants at the 2019 World Military Games.

    I believe the reason for this was to


    .put in motion a chain of events that would remove Donald Trump from office. In 2019 the chances of the Democrats winning in 2020 were slim to none. An added upside would be to give the people of Britain a bloody nose for standing up for freedom re Brexit.

    • normalise systems of all but mandatory vaccination
    • A great reset of our relationship with the car, cimmuting, interpersonal relationships
    • A case study in how whole populations are led to mania, division and groupthink

    At a local level every national government, although not informed in advance of the plan, had their own motivations. Of the Irish government, I would be confident at least one individual in the cabinet, maybe a second, both of them FG members, knew what was coming well in advance, due to their connections to the Bilderberg Group and the WEF. Two men on record as their loyalty to Ireland and being Irish extending about as far as rugby matches at Landsdowne. A pair of dyed in the wool pan globalists, cookie cutters of Macron, Tredeau, Merkel, Rutte, Jacinda Ardern and every other soulless arsehole elected in the last 5 odd years.

    My guess, the plan was formulated at some point in the summer of 2019. Test amounts of early Covid variants were possibly even released in places like Barcelona and Milan, as evidenced by wastewater analysis from this period.

    Mehole, not a chance that absolute gobdaw was allowed know the plan, just how if 9/11 really was an inside job George W was the last person they were telling. Taoiseach Dougal probably still thinks it was all real to this day.

    The primary Irish government motivation was to

    • artificially inflate house prices, which by late 2019/ early 2020 had started to flatline at what were reasonably affordable rates even in Dublin
    • to break Irish society's centuries long affiliation with the pub. The intention being to destroy your "Saturday afternoon, 13 pints and premier league" venue in the villages and the suburban housing estates, places frequented by people who wouldn't vote FG FF in a fit. With the hope that by the end of the plandemic all that would remain were craft bars and other city centre tourist type venues.
    • To test how far a population brought to the brink of insanity by Europe's longest and most baffling illogical could be pushed. ESRI psychologists having a field day with the data.
    • To test stupidity. To see how many gobdaws could believe in 9 euro meals, masks when going to the jacks, thinking masks protect etc etc.
    • To punish the population for not having delivered a clear cut victory to neither FF or FG

    I frankly would find it difficult to have any respect for any non elderly person that does not believe in most of the above. Stupidity and ignorance falls outside of the term "everyone is entitled to their own opinion".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,743 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Personally, I would consider the current workplace approach to covid as a restriction on a company's ability to function and deliver their services. And in turn a restriction on those in need of such services. And it appears to be on the verge of getting even worse with talks about "long covid" being officially recognised as a workplace injury.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Drunken Oaf


    Hope to Christ Ron DeSantis gets the presidency in 2024. The man is a maverick and a realist, I wouldn't put it past him setting up a team that would look into prosecuting those who brought us to this level of insanity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Drunken Oaf


    He's one of the good guys.

    I liked Trump but he went a bit mad towards the end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    How do the UK compare to us with all this workplace disruption

    If I want to see what living with COVID is really like I'd look to what the Tories are doing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    It's already/still advisory on public transport and busy indoor areas - they wouldn't be putting legislation back on the books if the intent wasn't to legally mandate it at some point.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    They tried that last time.. get vaccinated as the way out of restrictions. Indeed, I think it's why the vast majority went along

    It didn't happen though. Restrictions were dragged on regardless.

    Fool me once...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,623 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Dr Barry on RTE now claiming another variant has emerged in India and picking up pace and should be with us by September 🙄🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I didn't last time either for the most part.

    I went with one of the plastic face shields. Still ridiculous, but less personally uncomfortable and frustrating than a mask

    If they try to bring this back for what is still a mild dose of the sniffles for the majority in the midst of darkening evenings and spiralling heating bills and fuel costs, on top of all the other issues we face, I can see a lot of unrest.

    It doesn't happen often (last time being the Irish Water protests), but there seems to be a lot of simmering anger and frustration out there at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    There won't be unrest over masks

    There could be a lot of non compliance

    I know I won't be bothering my ****



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I didn't actually say that, that's your projected version of it, but some people are really struggling to let it go. I'm genuinely sorry you continue to feel that way. COVID is over bar some slightly obvious exceptions and it has been for over four months. In due course there will be a review of how we went about things. None of these claims about next winter are real at all BTW but they are clearly real for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    It feels like COVID is being prolonged by the work outages and hospital stats and media sensationalism

    That's my take on it all. I feel that it's not over until we decide to end it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Of course they matter, these are some of the most significant events in Irish history.

    Your commentary around this is bizarre, you asked people to "purge their memories" in a previous post.

    Of course you could ask people not to look back with especial bitterness but nobody is forgetting anything, why would they. The public panic was itself a response to media and political hype.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Nah not purging them, again a reworking of my words, just putting them in their place as part of of our life story. I don't see much to remember about the last two years except that there was probably far too much caution at times, but driven by events at that time. Ultimately we moved out of it far faster than many other countries. That we will all learn something from, otherwise life stretches ahead of us, not behind us.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The fiat financial system, as we know it, has come to an end. It was actually on it's knees by 2009 or so, but they kept injecting it with more and more printing. The longer such stimulation continued, the bigger the eventual crash would be. Its completely done now, which the powers that be have recognised. America is in record debt. They will collapse into the new CBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency) system, due approx 2024-25, according to the ECB and US Fed.

    Covid and the war arrived in good time to provide a smokescreen. Politicians will continue to blame these events for what was already an inevitable (and necessary) collapse.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,761 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Most supermarkets have security at the doors, the small shop probably won't care too much though



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