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Westernyelp

guy2231 wrote:

The thing is a lot of people don't realise this, women don't exactly go around shouting it from the rooftops, if you are in a cirlcle of highly capable men you will come to this realisation a lot quicker while the friend zoned beta males generally don't have a clue.

Nope. I think it's you

guy2231

Westernyelp wrote: »

Nope. I think it's you

Well then we will have to agree to disagree.

guy2231

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I've been single most of my life, actively dating, and I'm usually quite successful in doing so. A few girlfriends at different stages, but mostly single all the same (which is what I want). I'm a professional who gets paid quite well, and I'm extremely well traveled.

And I don't agree with your assessment, since you applied the belief that most women behave this way. Some women do. That's certainly true. But most? Hardly. IMO "Most" women have a few boyfriends (2-4) in their early 20s, might play around a bit while single, and then get married from late 20s/early 30s. Few have that much experience with playing around, and there's little to suggest that they're settling because they didn't manage to snatch their "alpha" male.

Culture plays a large part here. If we were talking about somewhere like Spain, I'd be more likely to agree with you... however, if we're talking about Ireland, then, no I wouldn't.

They may have only had 2-4 boyfriends I can agree with you on that but the amount of men they have actually had sex with is far higher than the amount of boyfriends they have had.

Anyway this all has nothing to do with the thread let's get back on topic and hear what bubblypop has to say.

B.A._Baracus

bubblypop wrote: »

No one was suggesting watching your daughter's porn movies!
Point is, if it's ok for some women to work in porn, why wouldn't it be ok for your female relation to do the same?

It's not about what you watch, it's the attitude to the women and what they decide to do for work.

I am going to be extremely raw on this one.

This isn't black and white. Very few things are in life.
I'll say this - Many a bloke would ride a girl he deems a 'sl*t' - use her to forfill his own sexual needs then throw her there. He wouldn't date her but has no issue riding her. A lot of women can share the same - they just call the guys 'f*ck boys' - same thing though.

Such people are right. After all, what about the expression of "a whore will only break your heart" ... but that all sounds like hypocrisy doesn't it? But we're all hypocrites.

Here's another form of hypocrisy... say a guy is questioning himself about getting into a relationship with a girl with a established and long sexual past (to put it nicely) but gets advice from people who say its the past, who she was doesn't matter etc. What would the same sort of people be saying if she did the dirt on him in the future?

- "what did you expect"
- "you were mad to get involved"
- "I wouldn't have"

... the same sort. Lol. See, the world is mad at times lol. The lesson is do what you want as everyone else does.

bubblypop

bubblypop wrote: »

No one was suggesting watching your daughter's porn movies!
Point is, if it's ok for some women to work in porn, why wouldn't it be ok for your female relation to do the same?

It's not about what you watch, it's the attitude to the women and what they decide to do for work.

Because, funnily enough, I don't actually respect women who have a face like a painters radio after a group of men ejaculate on them. Viscerally, it may be titillating to see happen, but I wouldn't want my daughter, sister or mother to do it.

I'm assuming you would encourage your female relation to go dogging and video it for the world to see if they were mulling it over?

notAMember

bubblypop wrote: »

No one was suggesting watching your daughter's porn movies!
Point is, if it's ok for some women to work in porn, why wouldn't it be ok for your female relation to do the same?

It's not about what you watch, it's the attitude to the women and what they decide to do for work.

It's because the consumers of porn generally view those women as objects. Or things to be consumed, or ejaculated on as the charmer above has put.

Not as actual real valid human people.


Therefore it all makes sense in the brain. If they're not real people, if they are less than people, lower class/grade/type.... needing "an upgrade" as someone else beautifully put it above, then it's ok.

Dehumanising basically is how it works.

cloudatlas

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Here's another form of hypocrisy... say a guy is questioning himself about getting into a relationship with a girl with a established and long sexual past (to put it nicely) but gets advice from people who say its the past, who she was doesn't matter etc. What would the same sort of people be saying if she did the dirt on him in the future?

- "what did you expect"
- "you were mad to get involved"
- "I wouldn't have"

... the same sort. Lol. See, the world is mad at times lol. The lesson is do what you want as everyone else does.

You are equating someone who is sex positive and is known to enjoy sex 'a established and long sexual past' with someone who is unfaithful. Do you see the problem with that?

I can understand that kind of correlation if the person cheated on their partner to start a relationship with you and then cheated on you but otherwise ye just sound like an old lady clutching her pearls and being a bit puritan about people having sex.

I would have thought it would be better to have a partner who is sexually experienced than one who isn't.

notAMember

notAMember wrote: »

It's because the consumers of porn generally view those women as objects. Or things to be consumed, or ejaculated on as the charmer above has put.

Not as actual real valid human people.


Therefore it all makes sense in the brain. If they're not real people, if they are less than people, lower class/grade/type.... needing "an upgrade" as someone else beautifully put it above, then it's ok.

Dehumanising basically is how it works.

I'm not a charmer. I'll grant you that.

But yes, while watching pornography, the consumers tend to "dehumanise" the actress and actor.

It would be tough to enjoy their content if you didn't.

cloudatlas

cloudatlas wrote: »

You are equating someone who is sex positive and is known to enjoy sex 'a established and long sexual past' with someone who is unfaithful. Do you see the problem with that?

I can understand that kind of correlation if the person cheated on their partner to start a relationship with you and then cheated on you but otherwise ye just sound like an old lady clutching her pearls and being a bit puritan about people having sex.

I would have thought it would be better to have a partner who is sexually experienced than one who isn't.

There is a world of difference, relationship wise, between someone who is sexually experienced and someone who is willing to **** themselves on camera for a tenner.

Rikand

Deleted User wrote: »

I've been single most of my life, actively dating, and I'm usually quite successful in doing so.

Well when you are as good looking as you are Klaz, it's easy to see why

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Because, funnily enough, I don't actually respect women who have a face like a painters radio after a group of men ejaculate on them. Viscerally, it may be titillating to see happen, but I wouldn't want my daughter, sister or mother to do it.

I'm assuming you would encourage your female relation to go dogging and video it for the world to see if they were mulling it over?

What about the men?
What do you think of them?

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

There is a world of difference, relationship wise, between someone who is sexually experienced and someone who is willing to **** themselves on camera for a tenner.

So it's the broadcasting that's your issue?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Because, funnily enough, I don't actually respect women who have a face like a painters radio after a group of men ejaculate on them. Viscerally, it may be titillating to see happen, but I wouldn't want my daughter, sister or mother to do it.

I'm assuming you would encourage your female relation to go dogging and video it for the world to see if they were mulling it over?

Nobody wants to see their family doing porn, because they're more than likely jerking off while watching.

Question is, are you anti-porn? And if not, who do you think should be acting the female parts, if not someone's wife or girlfriend or daughter?

B.A._Baracus

cloudatlas wrote: »

You are equating someone who is sex positive and is known to enjoy sex 'a established and long sexual past' with someone who is unfaithful. Do you see the problem with that?

I can understand that kind of correlation if the person cheated on their partner to start a relationship with you and then cheated on you but otherwise ye just sound like an old lady clutching her pearls and being a bit puritan about people having sex.

I would have thought it would be better to have a partner who is sexually experienced than one who isn't.

again to be so raw ...
Look, if you want to date someone with a long and chequered sexual past then that's your call. I wish you the best. If someone else says "fu*k that" and doesn't that's their choice too.

The way the world works is that you have your own certain beliefs, thoughts, code of ethics, whatever... and so does everyone else of the 7.5 billion people on the planet.

You can come up with garbage like "you sound like an old lady clutching her pearls" all you want. It does not give your opinion more weight than the next. So just live your life. You're not going to agree with everyone on everything.

Rikand

Rikand wrote: »

Well when you are as good looking as you are Klaz, it's easy to see why

haha.. I think you know that isn't what works for me. Too tall, too skinny, and a shaking disorder to shake the apples from the trees.

However, it pays to learn how to communicate effectively, and understand/appreciate what women say (and what they don't). It also helps to pick up experience or a wide range of subjects to talk about, without making you sound like an expert (or arrogant).

Honestly, the biggest thing that helped me was getting out of Ireland.. I was always an utter disaster for dating here. :pac:

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Nobody wants to see their family doing porn, because they're more than likely jerking off while watching.

Question is, are you anti-porn? And if not, who do you think should be acting the female parts, if not someone's wife or girlfriend or daughter?

The issue (from the previous page or so) is if you know them personally... not a stranger (who is, naturally, someone's wife/daughter/etc).

cloudatlas

Deleted User wrote: »

There is a world of difference, relationship wise, between someone who is sexually experienced and someone who is willing to **** themselves on camera for a tenner.

That isn't what he said or what I said.

cloudatlas

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

again to be so raw ...
Look, if you want to date someone with a long and chequered sexual past then that's your call. I wish you the best. If someone else says "fu*k that" and doesn't that's their choice too.

The way the world works is that you have your own certain beliefs, thoughts, code of ethics, whatever... and so does everyone else of the 7.5 billion people on the planet.

You can come up with garbage like "you sound like an old lady clutching her pearls" all you want. It does not give your opinion more weight than the next. So just live your life. You're not going to agree with everyone on everything.

What is this weird 'to be so raw' thing you keep going on about.

Your comments make me cringe because they hark back to a Catholic Ireland that a lot of us are trying to escape. The idea that someone is somehow 'damaged goods' if they are sexually experienced. Live your life but I think it's sad. Sorry to be so raw.

cloudatlas

cloudatlas wrote: »

That isn't what he said or what I said.

Ok, I'll ask directly.

Would you approve of, or encourage, a female relative to masturbate in front of strangers for ten euro?

Would you be happy to be in a sexual and intimate relationship with a woman who would make custom videos catering to the whims of people who want to masturbate to her?

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ok, I'll ask directly.

Would you approve of, or encourage, a female relative to masturbate in front of strangers for ten euro?

Would you be happy to be in a sexual and intimate relationship with a woman who would make custom videos catering to the whims of people who want to masturbate to her?

What if it was a male?

cloudatlas

cloudatlas wrote: »

What is this weird 'to be so raw' thing you keep going on about.

Your comments make me cringe because they hark back to a Catholic Ireland that a lot of us are trying to escape. The idea that someone is somehow 'damaged goods' if they are sexually experienced. Live your life but I think it's sad. Sorry to be so raw.

Sexually experienced is a world of difference to someone who performs sexual acts for money.

There is a huge false equivalence when you compare it to prudish Catholic outdated attitudes

bubblypop

bubblypop wrote: »

What about the men?
What do you think of them?

I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with them either

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

So it's the broadcasting that's your issue?

Certainly. If my other half was willingly and actively gratifying someone else sexually, I'd have a major problem

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with them either

But you said you don't respect the women in porn, how about the men? What are your feelings about them?

It's weird how like it's almost viewed as being prudish now if you have issue with this sort of thing..

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Certainly. If my other half was willingly and actively gratifying someone else sexually, I'd have a major problem

So you wouldn't have a threesome?


A woman you care about has definitely had a load over her face, where does this fall in your book?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Nobody wants to see their family doing porn, because they're more than likely jerking off while watching.

Question is, are you anti-porn? And if not, who do you think should be acting the female parts, if not someone's wife or girlfriend or daughter?

I'm certainly not anti porn.

It's of no consequence to me who is doing the acting. They've made their choice. I wouldn't want it to be my relative or partner.

More power to them of that's their informed choice.

I won't hold them in high regard though

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

It's weird how like it's almost viewed as being prudish now if you have issue with this sort of thing..

There's plenty of discussion going on, get involved instead of hurling from the ditch.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm certainly not anti porn.

It's of no consequence to me who is doing the acting. They've made their choice. I wouldn't want it to be my relative or partner.

More power to them of that's their informed choice.

I won't hold them in high regard though

That does sound a bit contradcitory, to be honest "power to them - but I won't hold them in high regard".

You also sound very much anti-porn. Not in a legal sense - I'm not suggesting that you want it banned or anything - but in a moral/ethical sense. It's kike the age old traditional religious, "I have nohting against homosexuality/divorce/aboirtion, but I don't want it in the family".

guy2231

bubblypop wrote: »

But you said you don't respect the women in porn, how about the men? What are your feelings about them?

Well the men aren't the ones getting bent over and f*****, at least not most of the time.