Girls and OnlyFans

YellowLead

I’m curious as to what types of guys subscribe.
I’m imagining a lot ore married or in long terms and bored but don’t want to cheat. The rest are guys who can’t get women in real life presumably?

SnuggyBear

I think it's mostly young lonely men. The same demographic as twitch I'd presume. It's the interaction they like because there's the world of free porn and even onlyfans leaks sites.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

You can really spot the simps in this thread.

:pac:

Ok then, point them out. Let them defend themselves rather than this vague accusation.

SnuggyBear

SnuggyBear wrote: »

I think it's mostly young lonely men. The same demographic as twitch I'd presume. It's the interaction they like because there's the world of free porn and even onlyfans leaks sites.

Across the world, with the advance of technology, and social media, there is a growing number of people in most countries (Japan being the best example, but it's becoming more common in the US), where people feel cut off from society. They become reliant on the internet, and interacting with others online, as opposed to interactions in the real world. Its not just about porn. It's about "making friends" with someone who is always nice to you (even if you have to pay for it).. when the world outside is a scary place.

I have a female friend who has a solid twitch presence, and dabbles on a number of other platforms. She's not doing anything sexy, and simply talks about her life, while dealing with whatever subjects her audience provides. She's polite, friendly, and non-judgmental. And she's extremely popular, raking in the cash. Oh, sure, she gets lots of offers about sex or taking revealing photos, but she hasn't bothered with it. She makes more than enough from being a "normal" person... and her audience would be mostly people in their early to late 30s.. Not young people.

Society is shifting dramatically, especially among the middle aged group of people, with marriage breaking down as an important stage in peoples development, and the internal migration of people, many people hit their middle age, alone, lonely, and lacking the social skills to pick up someone in a bar, or the physical presence (or ability to lie) to get someone online. The internet is no longer the playground for just the young.. it's been around long enough to affect society in so many ways.

While I would say that onlyfans appeals to the young, as you said, it's easy to find free porn. It's the interactions that make OF, or any of the cam sites popular.. and I''d say a significant percentage of their paying audience consists of middle aged men, and women.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Deleted User wrote: »

First of all, I did not say they were wrong.

Second, I am in a position to give my opinion to a relative and choose a partner who doesnt/hasn't done it.

It's conservative to prefer to have a partner who doesn't masturbate on demand for strangers? ****, I suppose I'm conservative so.

You don't seem to remember what you wrote.

Fristly - see below.
Seconly - you never said "give an opinion". Previously, it was "tell them to". You don't get to tell anyone what to do.

Deleted User wrote: »

Once they are doing what they do as an informed consenting adult, I am in no position to tell them they are wrong.

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Deleted User wrote: »

Lol, pausing a video is where you draw the line.

I getcha.

Again - YOU'RE the one who brought it up!!!

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd rather not have a partner that says "hang on a minute, pause that film, I've been tipped 20 euro so I need to **** myself silly for well_hung98"

There are a lot of contradcitions and denials from post to post here, as well as twisting of my responces to it. This is usually evidence of trolling, so I'm going to leave this here.

guy2231

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Across the world, with the advance of technology, and social media, there is a growing number of people in most countries (Japan being the best example, but it's becoming more common in the US), where people feel cut off from society. They become reliant on the internet, and interacting with others online, as opposed to interactions in the real world. Its not just about porn. It's about "making friends" with someone who is always nice to you (even if you have to pay for it).. when the world outside is a scary place.

I have a female friend who has a solid twitch presence, and dabbles on a number of other platforms. She's not doing anything sexy, and simply talks about her life, while dealing with whatever subjects her audience provides. She's polite, friendly, and non-judgmental. And she's extremely popular, raking in the cash. Oh, sure, she gets lots of offers about sex or taking revealing photos, but she hasn't bothered with it. She makes more than enough from being a "normal" person... and her audience would be mostly people in their early to late 30s.. Not young people.

Society is shifting dramatically, especially among the middle aged group of people, with marriage breaking down as an important stage in peoples development, and the internal migration of people, many people hit their middle age, alone, lonely, and lacking the social skills to pick up someone in a bar, or the physical presence (or ability to lie) to get someone online. The internet is no longer the playground for just the young.. it's been around long enough to affect society in so many ways.

While I would say that onlyfans appeals to the young, as you said, it's easy to find free porn. It's the interactions that make OF, or any of the cam sites popular.. and I''d say a significant percentage of their paying audience consists of middle aged men, and women.

You're really giving it socks on this thread Klaz, about 8 long paragraphs per post.

guy2231

guy2231 wrote: »

You're really giving it socks on this thread Klaz, about 8 long paragraphs per post.

It's easier to read, and doesn't take long to type. Anyway, I tend to write that way on most threads.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

You don't seem to remember what you wrote.

Fristly - see below.
Seconly - you never said "give an opinion". Previously, it was "tell them to". You don't get to tell anyone what to do.



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Again - YOU'RE the one who brought it up!!!




There are a lot of contradcitions and denials from post to post here, as well as twisting of my responces to it. This is usually evidence of trolling, so I'm going to leave this here.

I haven't contradicted myself at all.

My position is absolutely consistent

Midlife crisis man

Nothing wrong with it in my eyes. Of course I'd date someone who is active on that site. It's not as if she's off riding every Tom, Dick and Harry. It's a solo show. I would have no problem if people are in their own homes cranking one off to her. At the end of the day it's me who would be sharing the bed with her. The backwards mentality of some people in here is astounding.

SnuggyBear

Midlife crisis man wrote: »

Nothing wrong with it in my eyes. Of course I'd date someone who is active on that site. It's not as if she's off riding every Tom, Dick and Harry. It's a solo show. I would have no problem if people are in their own homes cranking one off to her. At the end of the day it's me who would be sharing the bed with her. The backwards mentality of some people in here is astounding.

Ye cos the normalisation of young girls going into porn is great for society. You would have no problem with your daughter doing it then?

Midlife crisis man

Midlife crisis man wrote: »

Nothing wrong with it in my eyes. Of course I'd date someone who is active on that site. It's not as if she's off riding every Tom, Dick and Harry. It's a solo show. I would have no problem if people are in their own homes cranking one off to her. At the end of the day it's me who would be sharing the bed with her. The backwards mentality of some people in here is astounding.

I'd balk at the idea of my girlfriend performing sexual acts on herself for one of my friends if they paid her ten euro.

Each to their own.

LegacyUser

Cyclepath wrote: »

I've no problem with the idea of a female partner being seen naked or the fact that other guys would find her attractive enough to have a tug over. In fact that might actually turn me on.

What I do have a problem with are the practicalities of it and the effects that such a 'career' might have, for example:

• There is absolutely no guarantee/stability in terms of income
• It'll only last as long as the woman is attractive to men
• It'll give the woman a distorted expectation of income (are they likely to start a savings/pension scheme?)
• It rewards the woman almost exclusively for looks, and not based on any real effort - it sets up unrealistic expectations of the world
• The woman risks recognition in real life - especially when the money tap turns off and she's sat at a Tesco till with some weirdo grinning at her etc.

Or, maybe as a solid '5' I'm just resentful of attractive people getting paid for nothing they've actually done

I doubt very much if they get 'paid' a fraction of what's being quoted on here. I think I saw €21k a month being touted...
What do you do with that kind of money... stick it under the mattress.... try lodging €21k a month into any kind of account and before long questions will be asked as to where it's actually coming from.
Regardless of the fact that men generally move from 'girl to girl' on these sites, so who's popular today is long forgotton tomorrow. In any 'business' involving glamour, chances are you've got 5 good years, 5 bad years, and the rest you're forgotten about.... but I'd imagine in these days of instant gratification.... substitute 5 years for '5 minutes'..
On saying that, what people choose to do themselves is their own business, Ireland being Ireland however, it wont be long before your 'business' is known to almost everyone..

Midlife crisis man

SnuggyBear wrote: »

Ye cos the normalisation of young girls going into porn is great for society. You would have no problem with your daughter doing it then?

No. As long as she's old enough to make her own informed decisions then that's her business. Its not like I'd be watching it. And yes, the taxes they pay is good for society.

Midlife crisis man

Midlife crisis man wrote: »

The backwards mentality of some people in here is astounding.

Let me ask you this then. Your missus becomes somewhat popular online, where she receive a good amount of attention with a decent bankroll coming from a limited number of subscribers. These limited number of subscribers are where the majority of her cash comes from, and as time goes by, she becomes closer with them, enacting their fantasies, and playing to their needs... and at the same time, these same people are offering her outrageous amounts of money to meet them for something more "real". And since people tend to get bored after a while, they claim they will leave and stop supporting her if she doesn't meet them. Carrot and the switch. Extra money, and the threat of losing regular income.

Now, I'm sure many people in this situation would tell these customers to piss off (in a nice way).. that she values you too much to cheat on you.. but what if she's one of those people who does value money so much more? After all, she knows that she's popular and could quite easily replace you with someone who could provide a better life to her. [You could extend some of the logic shown on this thread, where people shouldn't place so much value on sex, and there being no moral condemnation of her choice to cheat on you.. since it's her choice, and her body]

And once she does it, she finds that it's not so bad, and she does it repeatedly.

The point of all this "backwards mentality" is an understanding of human nature. Does it apply to everyone? Of course not.. however, if you're being in any way honest about the situation, you'll acknowledge that it does apply to many people out there.

SnuggyBear

Midlife crisis man wrote: »

No. As long as she's old enough to make her own informed decisions then that's her business. Its not like I'd be watching it. And yes, the taxes they pay is good for society.

Where do you draw the line? What about when it leads to prostitution? Is this OK for your daughter? It's a slippery slope.

Quantum Erasure

Midlife crisis man wrote: »

Nothing wrong with it in my eyes. Of course I'd date someone who is active on that site. It's not as if she's off riding every Tom, Dick and Harry. It's a solo show. I would have no problem if people are in their own homes cranking one off to her. At the end of the day it's me who would be sharing the bed with her. The backwards mentality of some people in here is astounding.

What if she wasnt getting paid for it? Just sharing stuff with people she met online

notAMember

Deleted User wrote: »

So in summary, you either want to force men to respect women in porn OR porn should be banned?

No, not really. Wibbs has said it better maybe. The problem with onlyFans and porn in general is when it is degradation, not when it's eroticism. Expressing sexuality can be a hugely positive for everyone involved.

I wouldn't find a woman who creates porn as a worthy partner. That is my choice and my preference, much as creating porn is her choice and her preference.

You can't make me respect her choices much as I can't make anyone respect mine.

I think we need to progress the attitudes a bit, and understand why this is so. Where you can consume your material of choice (which apparently is men ejaculating on women's faces?), believe that the participants are not worthy of respect, and yet not feel that there is any consequence to that behaviour. You're creating the market for it by being the consumer. Do you see what I mean?


Similar to buying tonnes of single use plastic and somehow being appalled that it's in the food chain. Consumption is what drives it.

How about if instead, onlyfans and porn in general was a positive sexual experience, and not degrading, would your opinion change?

I wouldn't find a woman who creates porn as a worthy partner. That is my choice and my preference, much as creating porn is her choice and her preference.

I think you are over-egging the whole "not wanting an onlyfans creator as a partner" slant by equating it with women's safety and society as a whole.

It wasn't me who brought that up originally, it was another poster who said they would be concerned about their girlfriends safety. I think the thread had drifted to porn more widely, and we are all aware of the negative aspects associated with it. Trafficking, abuse, child abuse etc.

Why are you only concerned with dehumanisation of women?

Because that is the topic of the thread, "Girls and OnlyFans".

Does onlyfans require direct messages to subscribers, or is it just access to more photos and videos?

Midlife crisis man

Lol do you folks think that all cam girls turn to prostitution and can't be in normal loving monogamous relationships?
Most of these people are just Jane Soap your next door neighbour. She'll never know or meet any of these people who are silly enough to pay for it.

So yes, I stand by my backwards mentality comment.

notAMember

notAMember wrote: »

No, not really. Wibbs has said it better maybe. The problem with onlyFans and porn in general is when it is degradation, not when it's eroticism. Expressing sexuality can be a hugely positive for everyone involved.



I think we need to progress the attitudes a bit, and understand why this is so. Where you can consume your material of choice (which apparently is men ejaculating on women's faces?), believe that the participants are not worthy of respect, and yet not feel that there is any consequence to that behaviour. You're creating the market for it by being the consumer. Do you see what I mean?


Similar to buying tonnes of single use plastic and somehow being appalled that it's in the food chain. Consumption is what drives it.

How about if instead, onlyfans and porn in general was a positive sexual experience, and not degrading, would your opinion change?





It wasn't me who brought that up originally, it was another poster who said they would be concerned about their girlfriends safety. I think the thread had drifted to porn more widely, and we are all aware of the negative aspects associated with it. Trafficking, abuse, child abuse etc.



Because that is the topic of the thread, "Girls and OnlyFans".

All good points and well made.

I do disagree in the most part when it comes to my material of choice being men ejaculating on women's faces though

guy2231

Midlife crisis man wrote: »

Lol do you folks think that all cam girls turn to prostitution and can't be in normal loving monogamous relationships?
Most of these people are just Jane Soap your next door neighbour. She'll never know or meet any of these people who are silly enough to pay for it.

So yes, I stand by my backwards mentality comment.

Where did anyone say that?

B.A._Baracus

Grigotbianco wrote: »

Judging by your emotional reaction you care very much.

Ah that old chestnut :pac:
I would also have accepted "whoa, you're so angry" (which is another fav people pull out of their backside on here lol)

But I see youre banned. After 2 posts. Stop me if I am wrong but what kind of sad individual keeps re-reg'ing to a site only to get banned time and time again? :pac:

guy2231

guy2231 wrote: »

Where did anyone say that?

Me. Although he's taking the point to an extreme.. probably because he's unwilling to actually engage in a discussion. Much easier to throw out vague soundbites, and judgments about the posters on the thread.

Quantum Erasure

Deleted User wrote: »

Does onlyfans require direct messages to subscribers, or is it just access to more photos and videos?

Id say you can set it up whatever way you want,

o1s1n

Deleted User wrote: »

Let me ask you this then. Your missus becomes somewhat popular online, where she receive a good amount of attention with a decent bankroll coming from a limited number of subscribers. These limited number of subscribers are where the majority of her cash comes from, and as time goes by, she becomes closer with them, enacting their fantasies, and playing to their needs... and at the same time, these same people are offering her outrageous amounts of money to meet them for something more "real". And since people tend to get bored after a while, they claim they will leave and stop supporting her if she doesn't meet them. Carrot and the switch. Extra money, and the threat of losing regular income.

Now, I'm sure many people in this situation would tell these customers to piss off (in a nice way).. that she values you too much to cheat on you.. but what if she's one of those people who does value money so much more? After all, she knows that she's popular and could quite easily replace you with someone who could provide a better life to her. [You could extend some of the logic shown on this thread, where people shouldn't place so much value on sex, and there being no moral condemnation of her choice to cheat on you.. since it's her choice, and her body]

And once she does it, she finds that it's not so bad, and she does it repeatedly.

The point of all this "backwards mentality" is an understanding of human nature. Does it apply to everyone? Of course not.. however, if you're being in any way honest about the situation, you'll acknowledge that it does apply to many people out there.

Holy slippery slope argument, Batman!

So you think that Onlyfans is a gateway drug to real life prostitution?

Mecrab

My sister's been doing it since last year and the extra income in the family is great. Also I've gotten so much better at photography and videography!

B.A._Baracus

Treetavern wrote: »

You do appear to be angry, you've resorted to name calling. The lady doth protest too much

Ah so you're back Grigotbianco let's see how long it takes ye to get banned this time

But remember how pathetic it is to keep re-reg'in when you sign up next time.

Mecrab

Mecrab wrote: »

My sister's been doing it since last year and the extra income in the family is great. Also I've gotten so much better at photography and videography!

Ewwweweew

Purple is a Fruit

I am a heterosexual woman but I can completely understand how it would be a turnoff. Some people are OK with it - and they might be OK with swinging... private intimacy isn't as much of a concern for them when it comes to sexuality. And cool, that's their business, but it's still fairly niche, and it's not "backwards" to have a mentality that isn't super liberal.

Forcing your view and making assumptions about others is the opposite of liberal. Not being a fan of selling your body and sexuality (even though by choice, even if good money) is just a preference. A view of sexuality as something more private. It's not stopping those who do Onlyfans.

Purple is a Fruit

Treetavern wrote: »

Each to their own.

Which also includes those who have reservations about it.