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Why do people hate on SUV drivers?

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    #182
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    32 grand for a 14 year old vehicle? bloody nora. you'd probably want to be on the minimum wage just to afford the road tax.

    This is about personal choice not money.

    This is not an economic argument. It's not bangeromics.


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    #183
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,371 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i wonder if it comes with bulletproof glass.
    not that i'm making any value judgement on a lot of people who'd consider buying it, of course.


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    #184
    millb
    Registered Users Posts: 215 ✭✭millb


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    in general, cars are just getting bigger regardless.

    Cars in Ireland / Europe have increased in width by approx 30% since 1970's.

    Access Roads and paths and bicycles have not increased in width.

    The fatter your car the more space you dominate..

    ... and extend that to a driver's ego.. add in a bit of entitlement or whatever


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    #185
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 7,794 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    .anon. wrote: »
    The proliferation of the things in urban areas is everyone's business. The amount of public space they occupy is everyone's business. That they're so often driven by people who show no awareness of their surroundings is everyone's business.

    Take the Corolla vs a C-HR for instance, one of these is an SUV and the root of all evil, the other is a family hatchback.

    Corolla 4.65m x 1.79m
    C-HR 4.38m x 1.79m
    Rav 4 4.6m x 1.85m

    The SUV is a shorter car, and therefore takes up less space.

    edit. added the Rav 4, to further demonstrate that the popular SUVs people buy, aren't really taking up much more urban space


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    #186
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    sebdavis wrote: »
    The PHEV element is what makes them more appealing. 30km on battery.
    .

    The future is hybrids with a big electric only range. Manufacturers are slow to realise that.


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    #187
    millb
    Registered Users Posts: 215 ✭✭millb


    beauf wrote: »
    I don't know why we keep making small parking spaces. Makes no sense.

    It is time for 2 sizes of parking space. Small and Large. single or double.


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    #188
    sebdavis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 891 ✭✭✭sebdavis


    beauf wrote: »
    I don't know why we keep making small parking spaces. Makes no sense.

    To fit more people into the car park....then slap a big sign up saying you are not responsible for any damage

    Hence why most cars these days have every panels battered


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    #189
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    i wonder if it comes with bulletproof glass.
    not that i'm making any value judgement on a lot of people who'd consider buying it, of course.

    You'll have to take that up with Arnie...

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/the-goods/2020/1/2/20992114/hummer-masculinity-america-humvee-schwarzenegger


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    #190
    beauf
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    millb wrote: »
    It is time for 2 sizes of parking space. Small and Large. single or double.

    Some car parks have some spots marked as compact cars only. Makes sense.


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    #191
    sebdavis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 891 ✭✭✭sebdavis


    beauf wrote: »
    The future is hybrids with a big electric only range. Manufacturers are slow to realise that.

    The new KIA Sorento PHEV, sold out and no idea when it will be available to order when I checked....it has a 50km range on it. Which is plenty for most people on day to day usage


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    #192
    beauf
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    sebdavis wrote: »
    To fit more people into the car park....then slap a big sign up saying you are not responsible for any damage

    Hence why most cars these days have every panels battered

    True and most car parks are private.

    Considering the lack of parking in new housing I'm not sure the govt would even want to suggest making parking spots bigger.

    It's interesting when you drive in the States how small European cars seem there.


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    #193
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,400 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    millb wrote: »
    It is time for 2 sizes of parking space. Small and Large. single or double.

    And double the price of parking for the double size vehicles.


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    #194
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    sebdavis wrote: »
    The new KIA Sorento PHEV, sold out and no idea when it will be available to order when I checked....it has a 50km range on it. Which is plenty for most people on day to day usage

    Oh theres few BMW's and Volvo etc.


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    #195
    FrankC21
    Registered Users Posts: 806 ✭✭✭FrankC21


    In my honest opinion, people buy them because its the trend much like the phones, "oh john mary bought a SUV/crossover I must have them aswell" I see it at work all the time, when somebody bought big bulky SUV another one will buy a much bigger one bloody hell. When I bought the fluence saloon they all told me at work oh why did you not qashqai or juke instead. Fck off

    I'm a person that would not spend too much money on a thing that depreciate ones you brought it out of the shop, that you will only use for A to B. But sure keep buying this SUV/crossover I'll just wait, there will be plenty of saloons for the like of skoda superb/ a6 to choose from when it goes down in prices.


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    #196
    Oscar Madison
    Registered Users Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Oscar Madison


    I would suggest the reason why they are unpopular is that they are usually being

    driven by middle aged ladies who have no idea how to properly drive or park such

    a large vehicle.

    No, I'm not a sexist but that's what I'm seeing when I'm on the road!


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    #197
    E36Ross
    Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭E36Ross


    I drive an 'SUV', About 2200kg kerb weight, 2.8 Diesel with no DPF/Cat on it and yes it has a massive bullbar.... I can just about get it under normal carpark height restrictions.

    And its fcuking brilliant!!


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    #198
    beauf
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    Oscar Madison wrote: »
    I would suggest the reason why they are unpopular is that they are usually being ...

    Well the vehicles are popular which is why we see so many.

    But the thread title was why do no people "Hate" on SUV drivers. But nothing to back this up. People hate bad drivers. It's unlikely that all SUV drivers are bad drivers. So it's a nonsensical thread title anyway.


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    #199
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users Posts: 5,651 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    stephenmarr wrote: »
    Think its more down to the safety measures volvo have designed

    Volvo intend that no-one dies in (or is killed by) any of their cars.


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    #200
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users Posts: 5,651 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    stephenmarr wrote: »
    Here's a question for all the suv bashers on this thread.
    What do ye all drive and the reason you bought why you bought it.

    Just for the record I drive a

    2005 Xc90, it's in mint condition.
    I love the extra space inside and the high driving position.

    Mondeo. Needed room for the kids in the back, and wanted a big boot, which crossovers don't seem to have.


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    #201
    stephenmarr
    Registered Users Posts: 834 ✭✭✭stephenmarr


    McGaggs wrote: »
    Volvo intend that no-one dies in (or is killed by) any of their cars.

    The new Xc90 is the safest car in the world. What more do you need.
    Would rather have my kids safe than worry about what people think of my Xc90


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    #202
    stephenmarr
    Registered Users Posts: 834 ✭✭✭stephenmarr


    https://www.driving.co.uk/news/life-saver-volvo-xc90-safest-car-road/


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    #203
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users Posts: 5,651 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    sebdavis wrote: »
    The PHEV element is what makes them more appealing. 30km on battery.

    Plus it used to be the biggest seller in the UK because of the PHEV, loads bought as company vehicles. You can pick them up cheap in warranty in the UK but also laods of dealers buying 80k mile versions for next to nothing in UK because out of warranty, then slapping a big margin and selling in Ireland, easy money

    The story goes that the charging cables are still wrapped and sitting in the boot.


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    #204
    magicbastarder
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    stephenmarr wrote: »
    The new Xc90 is the safest car in the world. What more do you need.
    well, i'd prefer them to manage to achieve that in a vehicle that's not the size of a small church.


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    #205
    Buddy Bubs
    Registered Users Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    stephenmarr wrote: »
    Here's a question for all the suv bashers on this thread.
    What do ye all drive and the reason you bought why you bought it.

    Just for the record I drive a

    2005 Xc90, it's in mint condition.
    I love the extra space inside and the high driving position.

    Audi A6, I'm a badge snob and I wouldn't drive anything outside the holy trinity of audi, bmw and Mercedes.

    I had loads of bmws before this audi and I just wanted something for a change, but I didn't want anything with indicators.

    And wanted to retain use of the German premium outside lane on the motorway, the one without the speed limit.


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    #206
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users Posts: 5,651 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    stephenmarr wrote: »
    The new Xc90 is the safest car in the world. What more do you need.
    Would rather have my kids safe than worry about what people think of my Xc90

    I'm agreeing with you here. Volvo have come out and said they intend that none of their cars will kill a pedestrian, as well as no-one inside the cars dying.


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    #207
    McGrath5
    Registered Users Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭McGrath5


    stephenmarr wrote: »
    The new Xc90 is the safest car in the world. What more do you need.

    The XC90 that nearly left hooked me from my bicycle yesterday sure as hell didn't feel safe from my point of view.


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    #208
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 7,794 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    McGrath5 wrote: »
    The XC90 that nearly left hooked me from my bicycle yesterday sure as hell didn't feel safe from my point of view.

    So what your saying is the car successfully avoided hitting you :rolleyes:
    On a serious note, that probably does need to be the next technology improvement, offside senors to prevent left hook incidents


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    #209
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,758 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    McGrath5 wrote: »
    The XC90 that nearly left hooked me from my bicycle yesterday sure as hell didn't feel safe from my point of view.

    Maybe if you had an XC90 instead of a push bike you'd be safer?
    Like Americans say they would be much safer if everyone had a gun.


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    #210
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    Maybe if you had an XC90 instead of a push bike you'd be safer?
    Like Americans say they would be much safer if everyone had a gun.

    Tank not looking so silly now.


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    #211
    AndrewJRenko
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    E36Ross wrote: »
    I drive an 'SUV', About 2200kg kerb weight, 2.8 Diesel with no DPF/Cat on it and yes it has a massive bullbar....

    Why?

    http://www.advanceddrivers.com/2017/09/18/crash-bull-bars-on-vehicles-cause-more-danger-than-they-prevent/


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