WWE Raw Superthread

beakerjoe · 20-07-2021 3:37pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117636675#Comment_117636675

I think you are correct, my bad. My point is still valid despite my inaccurate example.

TimesArrow · 20-07-2021 5:36pm

Just read that Charlotte has had 6 title reigns last under 30 days and one of those was under 5 minutes.. when they make a huge deal over when she eventually over takes Rics record, it’ll be meaningless and as hollow as everything else in wwe..

imo, Charlotte is unbelievably over rated.. she can be great in ring however the character is so stale and painfully dull

PTH2009 · 20-07-2021 10:06pm

They have really fucked up Kross but could be one of those 'you saw nothing' type things and he will redebut down the line. Jeff cheating to win was very odd

Great to see Keith Lee back, Goldberg vs Lashley meh i would of preferred Brock vs Lashley instead. Seems to be a bang of 1990s from this

Womens MITB always seems to be cashed in early

CastorTroy · 20-07-2021 10:10pm

https://twitter.com/WWENetwork/status/1417350682009645056

Glad she got to close out the show and enjoy her victory. Just reading through her twitter and the whole feed is just so positive.

She has the potential to be what Bayley could've been if they'd handled her right. Look at the wee girl in the last photo here

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1417544886727938056

J. Marston · 20-07-2021 10:24pm

They cut out the moment where some guy tried to hug her and she just palmed him off. It was painful viewing.

CastorTroy · 20-07-2021 10:49pm

Is it wrong that I found this comment I saw on twitter funny.

“Jeff Hardy just made the biggest mistake of his life”

Idk man we all seen victory road 2011

JP Liz V1 · 20-07-2021 10:54pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117639147#Comment_117639147

Cashed in on Charlotte nearly always 😉

JP Liz V1 · 27-07-2021 1:13am

Is Nikki now a full superhero champion

The White Wolf · 27-07-2021 7:34am

These claims of piped in audience reactions has ruined my ability to tell what's a real audience reaction. :O They seemed mad for Drew.

Loughc · 27-07-2021 8:41am

I'm glad Lee is back... he can get over all the other stars now.

CastorTroy · 27-07-2021 10:52am

Wasn't sure who would win the Lee/Kross match. Not because of talent but because both seem to be treated badly in the main roster, like Dijakovic.

What was with the Truth mic? And why do people coming for the 24/7 title always signal for everyone to follow? Shouldn't they want to be on their own?

Dunno who would win between Lilly and Eva Marie.

2 matches I thought were for the title turned out not to be when the challenger won.

Wonder if Natalya is injured or just twisted ankle somehow.

Was the Lashley match a triple threat or handicap?

ThePott · 27-07-2021 12:03pm

Well Raw is back to the usual tripe.

Sick of Charlotte, seems like no other champion or challenger can look better than her. Nikki seriously said, I nearly almost beat you. That's horrendous. I want this gimmick to work but they're already making her look a dork compared to Charlotte.

Lily vs Eva Marie is going to happen then I guess. I actually liked the Eva/Doudrop schtick and now it's been sidelined for the voodoo crap. Karrion Kross/Keith Lee, was dead. Keith Lee lost too. Makes it hard to care for either of these guys, they have no idea what to do with either of them. Embarassed for the likes of Mace and T-Bar. What even is their deal? That promo was awful too.

Sheamus match was alright as was the AJ/Omos match (no idea why they have them as heels) and Riddle JoMo was decent too. Got mild enjoyment out of the Miz's antics and Reginald, even if R-Truth being mic'd was odd. Also Reginald spent about 5 minutes getting a jacket off his face despite all his athleticism. Aside from that Raw is back to the usual dumpster fire.

27-07-2021 1:59pm

I gave Raw 2 weeks with fans back to see what it would be like, thinking they might up their game with crowds in attendance again.

Just awful. The actual wrestling isn't bad but the show is just nonsensical and drags. I'll go back to not watching it like I have been doing the last few years.

TimesArrow · 27-07-2021 2:34pm

i don’t understand the “best the champion to get a shot at the champion” thing they persist in doing

drew and jinder have legitimate history together and they’re building the feud around a prop sword and motor bike

everything with Charlotte is woeful and has been for years

JP Liz V1 · 27-07-2021 6:54pm

Keith Lee loses again

The new champ Nikki loses also

PTH2009 · 27-07-2021 7:35pm

Yeah Keith Lee must of pissed someone off backstage, feels odd having Kross appearing on Raw while still been NXT champ. I knw they done it briedly a couple of years ago having DIY and others appear on the main roster but just feels odd

Sheamus vs Damien Priest was a good match and so was Riddle vs Morrison

Suppose its nice having Drew out of the world title picture but its hard to care much about his feud with Jinder. The lawyer guy getting killed was great entertainment

Im hoping Bobby will not be fed to Goldberg at summerslam

JP Liz V1 · 28-07-2021 12:38am

Randy Orton is scheduled for next Monday’s RAW from the Allstate Arena near Chicago. Local advertising has Orton teaming with Riddle and Drew McIntyre against WWE Champion Bobby Lashley and RAW Tag Team Champions AJ Styles and Omos, which is likely the dark main event.

ThePott · 28-07-2021 11:32am

Reckon those were placeholders from months ago if McIntyre is facing Lashley.

JP Liz V1 · 30-07-2021 7:15pm

On Friday, WWE announced a new match for the next episode of Monday Night Raw via its website.

Matt Riddle will have a monster clash on the show as he will share the ring with Omos.

02-08-2021 12:25pm

I'd say they'll have to have their magic cheer/boo/mute button ready tonight. It's in Chicago so I could see some Punk chants or even chants for Wyatt.

JP Liz V1 · 02-08-2021 10:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117694725#Comment_117694725

Yes I expect Bray chants

Nikki needs to win clean tonight even if it is non title against Charlotte

J. Marston · 02-08-2021 10:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117697076#Comment_117697076

Rhea distracts Charlotte, Nikki rolls her up.

PTH2009 · 03-08-2021 1:07am

Big Bill looking jacked tbf

PTH2009 · 03-08-2021 1:11am

Yep Goldberg jnr is getting attacked at some point in this fued

JP Liz V1 · 03-08-2021 2:17am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117697694#Comment_117697694

He looks like Joey Essex

Cotts72 · 03-08-2021 8:15am

Kross shat on again.. At least Keith Lee won haha

TimesArrow · 03-08-2021 9:36am

since the return of crowds, raw has somehow become even more unwatchable… what are we even watching? The piped in crowd noise is so lame and distracting

also, the reference to Simone Biles having a “nervous breakdown” is so distasteful but I really expect nothing less from this odious, toxic highly mean spirited organization. Don’t know anyone can sit through this show

CastorTroy · 03-08-2021 10:27am

I'm actually surprised Rhea hasn't cut more people open with the amount of metal she has exposed.

I thought "moist" was a word people didn't like. Though at the rate they're going I'm really beginning to dislike it, though not for the same reason

beakerjoe · 03-08-2021 11:02am

Piping in crowd noise without removing old commentary. They dont even care anymore. In Chicago of all places.

And casting an NXT guy to play Hook....I mean Goldberg Junior is hilarious 🤣😉

How can anyone still watch this garbage.

03-08-2021 11:04am

https://twitter.com/MrWarrenHayes/status/1422357021773504512?s=19

They piped in crowd noise for Drew but left in Michael Cole's commentary as well haha. Must have been from a Cena entrance if he's saying 16 time champion

CastorTroy · 03-08-2021 11:33am

What we couldn't see was they were actually recording Smackdown at the same time just off camera and the audio was picked up from there. 🤔

ThePott · 03-08-2021 11:54am

Gonna try suck it up till Summerslam but it might be time to start skipping Raw again. This is dreadful and rather than working on it they're muting or sweetening the crowd sounds. There's not a single story on Raw that's interesting to me and even the stuff with potential is mishandled. Even if this show was two hours it would be terrible. Looked how long had passed and I was an hour and 15 minutes into it and it was dragging already, horrendous.

LineOfBeauty · 03-08-2021 12:03pm

I honestly don't know if there's a word to describe what modern day WWE actually is. Like pro wrestling is the art of eliciting an emotional response from a live crowd, they've now got a live crowd back but they go above and beyond to mute or alter the actual crowd responses to their performers. Like TV tapings are dull things at the best of times but if your genuine responses are considered problematic and are not broadcast with canned heat being played instead I really don't know what the draw is for anyone to actually attend these TV tapings at all.

What makes it even more strange is that since 2006, around the time WWE acknowledged it had lost the ability to manipulate crowds to react in the way in which they wanted them to, they leaned into the negative crowd responses (bizarro world and all that) in order to sell ppv's and hype particular weekly shows taking place in areas where you know you're going to get a smark crowd. That they now run away from that post pandemic is only more confusing.

The White Wolf · 03-08-2021 12:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117698607#Comment_117698607

Wait what, is that not Goldberg's son?

J. Marston · 03-08-2021 2:03pm

Amazing how Charlotte didn't inherit one scintilla of Ric's showmanship on the mic. She's so rambley.

beakerjoe · 03-08-2021 2:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117699171#Comment_117699171

I think it is his Son, I was just making a joke that he was like their counter reaction to Hook.

TimesArrow · 03-08-2021 4:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117699651#Comment_117699651

She’s abysmal on the mic. This is the most stale her character has been and that’s saying something. And the ma to he’s aren’t great either

CastorTroy · 03-08-2021 5:11pm

Her response to the Becky chants followed by the smile reminded me she always does that. If she goes off script with a comment like that she always smiles/laughs as if she's proud of herself.