Have you ever known a "serious" criminal?

The_Dark_Lord

Have you ever known or had dealings with a "serious" criminal, i.e., someone who was involved in gangland crime, or who was convicted of murder? I knew a guy in secondary school who, a few years ago, murdered another prisoner in jail. I'm not surprised by how his life turned out as he was a lowlife even back then. Do you know or have you known someone who was convinced of a serious crime, someone who might have been written about by Paul Williams for example. And if they were indeed written about in the tabloids, was the writing accurate or were they very different to how they were portrayed by the crime journalist?

LETHAL LADY

No. It's not the publicised people you should fear though!

LarryGraham

Sat beside a guy in secondary school that killed a young family member of his about 20 years ago. All over the national papers at the time.

He always had an dangerous edge to him in school. Stole my best friend's bike, freely admitted it and had this "fcuk you" attitude about the whole thing.

Still shocked when I saw the news a couple of years after the leaving. He's in the Central Mental Hospital the last I heard.

Strumms

Guy on my grandparents road... he came from a family of absolute gougers. Their name would have been known all over the inner city.. But growing up this kid he was a sweet little kid... visiting my grandparents, played football with us on the street when we visited, my granny used to feel sorry for him, give him food, drinks, a few bob to go out their back door and down the chipper...

Read last year he’d been arrested and convicted of manslaughter...

y0ssar1an22

morbid convo.

italodisco

Yep.
Someone I classed as being like a brother is doing a very long stretch for being a trigger man.

Can't say much more as its related to a feud that's been all over the media for years.

I'd no idea either, it's taken me a long time to get my head round it all. There were no signs, nothing to suggest he was involved in anything.

A very regular guy with an average life.

I dread seeing him in person again

I had a neighbour when I lived in holylands many moons ago, helpful chap to me when my dog got ran over. he must of had a lot of friends in the Gardai, they were always visiting him, even when he wasn't there.

L1011

Someone I was in school with is awaiting trial on underage porn offences; and I know someone whos dad is in prison for manslaughter.

FintanMcluskey

Local guy, had it all, captain of Gaa team, public service employee.

Convicted of serious crime, now going to serve 7 years in jail. Only convicted this week. Nobody can understand why he did it.

A friend of one of my best friends was murdered in a gangland hit in 2007. Went on a few dates with a lady who's ex was also shot a few years after that.
Another lad I know did a stretch for armed robbery.... Know a few + more who are/were involved in less serious stuff.

Many folk from urban areas would know quite a few heads IMO .... Unfortunately a part of modern Ireland

Charlie19

Knew this guy that bullied and stole from everyone in the neighborhood, he was also known to hit women too.

He had a funny eye though and went by the name Deebo.

He did get his comeuppance in end and He got knocked the f**k out.

Mulbert

A good few of the thick flunkers I went to school with ended up in jail. They were purebred scumbags. Thieving, horrible, treacherous scum.

It was obvious they were going to be but unfortunately only one of them has been murdered.

One lifer, a couple of suicides.

Johnthemanager

A fellow I would have gone to school with got elected for fianna fail.

Walking_Wolf

I knew Alan Ryan growing up. He was a good kid that turned into a bad adult.

Your Face

Years ago, I noticed a name in the paper about a botched robbery. The Gardai were wise to it and caught them red-handed.
I bought a few other papers to see if there was a photo of the lads and sure enough it was the fella I thought it was.
This fella was in my year in primary school for a short while. He was always up to something dodgy and always getting caught. Some things never change in that regard.
He was always going to be a criminal.

stefanovich

I know people who served a long time but I personally wouldn’t consider them all serious crimes.

stefanovich

Your Face wrote: »

Years ago, I noticed a name in the paper about a botched robbery. The Gardai were wise to it and caught them red-handed.
I bought a few other papers to see if there was a photo of the lads and sure enough it was the fella I thought it was.
This fella was in my year in primary school for a short while. He was always up to something dodgy and always getting caught. Some things never change in that regard.
He was always going to be a criminal.

Stupid and criminal is a recipe for disaster.

r93kaey5p2izun

Yes, quite a few people I grew up with. Some killed, some in jail, others still on the go. Most were nice enough on a passing acquaintance level, but no surprise whatsoever the path they've taken, except one. Two dead I have zero sympathy for. One made my life a misery growing up, the other an infamously disgusting evil psycho, both shot dead and good riddance.

Unknownability

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Local guy, had it all, captain of Gaa team, public service employee.

Convicted of serious crime, now going to serve 7 years in jail. Only convicted this week. Nobody can understand why he did it.

That's a heinous case and to think of the access he had to children through his job. Thankfully he was allowed be named.

Thespoofer

Yes, a good few, long time ago. Was young, stupid, impressionable.
Cut any dealings and left that environment.
Went from waste of space to productive, sensible person now.

BiggJim

Boxed with a young fella who is notorious in the Irish jail system. An absolute liability and only matter of time before he kills someone when he gets out.

Wildly Boaring

This chap used to run a security company

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eamon_Dunne

Well rather his dad (who was a tough cookie) did.

Construction company I worked for during the early 2000s used them for our Dublin sites. Eamonn was on my site several times.

We had stuff stolen off 3 sites in a short time frame and I, in my youth and Innocence, had a go at the 2 of them over one theft where the security man was either asleep, missing or in on it.

In fairness they were professional throughout and reimbursed us for that theft.

Foweva Awone

I've been through a lot of treatment centres for addiction so yeah, I met plenty of criminals along the way. I've sat in groups with various notorious murderers. Some who committed their crimes under the influence and felt genuine grief and remorse. Others who were cold-blooded sociopaths who were only in treatment for the sake of trying get a more lenient sentence in court. To be honest the vast majority of people I met along the way had been involved in some sort of crime, whether was theft, prostitution, drug dealing, etc etc. I wasn't exactly an angel myself either.

weldoninhio

Was in college with the lad who shot Gda Horkin last year.

Hangdogroad

I knew this fella who was convicted of downloading child porn. Never liked him, always thought there was something seriously off about him.

silverharp

"only" white collar, but I was good friends with a guy , he went on to become a solicitor, who went to prison for stealing a 6 or 7 figure amount of funds from a client account

Buddy Bubs

I know one of the kids that killed Anna Kriegel. Live on the same road.

stefanovich

Buddy Bubs wrote: »

I know one of the kids that killed Anna Kriegel. Live on the same road.

Terrible case. Must have been surreal.

Buddy Bubs

stefanovich wrote: »

Terrible case. Must have been surreal.

Yeah, decent family and upbringing but just something went very wrong with him. Don't know the other lad. Plus it's a park I went to nearly every day with the dog, still do. Would have to walk a certain distance in their footsteps. A few people I know very well would have talked to police in the course of the investigation for different reasons too.

stefanovich

Buddy Bubs wrote: »

Yeah, decent family and upbringing but just something went very wrong with him. Don't know the other lad. Plus it's a park I went to nearly every day with the dog, still do. Would have to walk a certain distance in their footsteps. A few people I know very well would have talked to police in the course of the investigation for different reasons too.

Hope it didn’t affect you too negatively.

FTA69

The_Dark_Lord wrote: »

Have you ever known or had dealings with a "serious" criminal, i.e., someone who was involved in gangland crime, or who was convicted of murder? I knew a guy in secondary school who, a few years ago, murdered another prisoner in jail. I'm not surprised by how his life turned out as he was a lowlife even back then. Do you know or have you known someone who was convinced of a serious crime, someone who might have been written about by Paul Williams for example. And if they were indeed written about in the tabloids, was the writing accurate or were they very different to how they were portrayed by the crime journalist?

Is this a lad from Dungarvan you’re on about?

micar

1) Knew a lad who lives a few mins walk from home, killed his nephew who was a infant

This guy had serious physiological problems.

Found guilty but insane.

2) A lad i played football with was done for murder.

Buddy Bubs

stefanovich wrote: »

Hope it didn’t affect you too negatively.

Apart from being geographically closer I was not affected more than anyone else really. Would only know the young lad to see and know his house, thankfully I didn't know Anna or her family.

LarryGraham

micar wrote: »

1) Knew a lad who lives a few mins walk from home, killed his nephew who was a infant

This guy had serious physiological problems.

Found guilty but insane.

2) A lad i played football with was done for murder.

I think #1 is the same guy I was mentioned earlier on.

Was #2 related to the recent feuds in the town?

gmisk

Thankfully no.
A few people in my secondary school year were caught with bomb equipment etc and charged with membership of the IRA. The trial collapsed.

micar

micar wrote: »

1) Knew a lad who lives a few mins walk from home, killed his nephew who was a infant

This guy had serious physiological problems.

Found guilty but insane.

2) A lad i played football with was done for murder.

LarryGraham wrote: »

I think #1 is the same guy I was mentioned earlier on.

Was #2 related to the recent feuds in the town?

Just read your post. Very likely to be DB. I never really had a problem with him. I remember is cousin who was a nutjob.

My sister was good friends with his sister.

The other incident occurred early 2000s. He was one of 3 who burst into the home of the boyfriend of one of those lads ex girlfriend. Absolutely battered him with a pickaxe, a wooden pole and the top end of a golf shaft.

Riddle101

Knew a guy from school who was also in my unit when I was in the Reserve Defence Forces. Years ago he killed a guy on a night out. He was messing around with his mates or something and punched some guy passing him on the street. It was a one-punch death. I think he was sentenced to three years in prison for it. I saw him on the street once when he got out. The dread I felt when I passed him by. It was in the news as well.

Hangdogroad

Riddle101 wrote: »

Knew a guy from school who was also in my unit when I was in the Reserve Defence Forces. Years ago he killed a guy on a night out. He was messing around with his mates or something and punched some guy passing him on the street. It was a one-punch death. I think he was sentenced to three years in prison for it. I saw him on the street once when he got out. The dread I felt when I passed him by. It was in the news as well.

Did this involve a retired journalist?

Yes. more than 1.

Will say No more.

pgj2015

Riddle101 wrote: »

Knew a guy from school who was also in my unit when I was in the Reserve Defence Forces. Years ago he killed a guy on a night out. He was messing around with his mates or something and punched some guy passing him on the street. It was a one-punch death. I think he was sentenced to three years in prison for it. I saw him on the street once when he got out. The dread I felt when I passed him by. It was in the news as well.

Did you think he might punch you?

gmisk

Riddle101 wrote: »

Knew a guy from school who was also in my unit when I was in the Reserve Defence Forces. Years ago he killed a guy on a night out. He was messing around with his mates or something and punched some guy passing him on the street. It was a one-punch death. I think he was sentenced to three years in prison for it. I saw him on the street once when he got out. The dread I felt when I passed him by. It was in the news as well.

Wow 3 years is nothing for that

blade1

Do I know any serious criminals?
Well they coming knocking at my door campaigning anytime there's an election.

theteal

2 lads on the GAA team as a nipper. Later down the road would end up on "opposite teams". Anyway, one shot the other dead on his doorstep iirc. Then himself dies in prison a while later. Nice cheerful synopsis for a Sunday morning.

Hangdogroad

gmisk wrote: »

Wow 3 years is nothing for that

Some googling confirmed my question to op. There are several different pictures of this guy coming in and out of court laughing his head off. He clearly had no remorse and seemed to view the while thing as a big joke. This scrote should have gotten nothing less than ten years.

tdf7187

Yes, I have been acquainted with several senior bankers and similar sharks in suits.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

morbid convo.

Never heard of him - what did he do?

The Inbetween is mine

Many years ago, I was actually questioned 3 times about a murder in my area turns out a neighbour of mine did it..

is_that_so

Chap who was considered very scary and violent locally. He even helped out on a charity event and collected sponsorship money. Ended up with links to drugs and being gunned down.

gmisk

Hangdogroad wrote: »

Some googling confirmed my question to op. There are several different pictures of this guy coming in and out of court laughing his head off. He clearly had no remorse and seemed to view the while thing as a big joke. This scrote should have gotten nothing less than ten years.

I saw the pics there now of him smirking and smiling pretty sickening.
He only served 2 years.

The_Dark_Lord

FTA69 wrote: »

Is this a lad from Dungarvan you’re on about?

No.

micar

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

Many years ago, I was actually questioned 3 times about a murder in my area turns out a neighbour of mine did it..

Out of curiosity.....what made you a suspect and what was questioning aspect like

At any time did you feel that the AGS might try and pin it on you?