Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Boggles

franciscanpunk wrote: »

Oh FFS! They hardly mean he needs hia theory test to get a job as a profesaional driver as recently laid off:)

As in the ability to deive to attend workplaces that are further away and not accessible by piblic transport.

You need to read what I was replying to.

Boggles

SusieBlue wrote: »

He’s not looking for work as a professional driver, he is looking to apply for jobs in more rural locations outside the city centre where the public transport is crap. He would have more opportunities available to him if he wasn’t reliant on the bus, which previously wasn’t a problem as he lives and worked near the city centre.

Driving schools are actually working at the moment, not just for essential workers, but for anyone who wants to take lessons.

This backlog is going to cause huge problems down the line. A 10 month wait to do a theory test is a joke.

So he doesn't need to learn how to drive to secure employment?

I thought he had lined up a job that required driving as part of it, the way you phrased it.

Surely there would be more opportunities in the City.

Retail are screaming out for workers at all levels.

Windmill100000

SusieBlue wrote: »

My brother got in touch with a TD to see if there was anything that could be done about the 9 month postponement of his driving theory test due to the restrictions.

The TD contacted the testing centre on his behalf and it turns out that they lied to my brother, the centres aren’t running at 20% capacity due to social distancing, they aren’t open at all.
They have been closed since the level 5 lockdown was put in place in December and won’t be reopening again until at least March 5th, or whenever level 5 is lifted.

They closed for Christmas and never reopened, so that’s almost two and a half months worth of completely cancelled appointments.
No wonder they rescheduled him for late August, it’ll take them until then and beyond to clear the backlog this is causing.

Driving is essential, the fact that these centres are closed for a prolonged period of time is a total joke.
I don’t know why more noise isn’t being made about this.

Did your brother look at updates here? Lots of information and updated alerts

https://www.rsa.ie/en/Utility/News/Alerts/Coronavirus-COVIDID--19--No-Disruption-to-RSA-Services/

SusieBlue

Boggles wrote: »

So he doesn't need to learn how to drive to secure employment?

I thought he had lined up a job that required driving as part of it, the way you phrased it.

Surely there would be more opportunities in the City.

Retail are screaming out for workers at all levels.

I refuse to engage with you if you are going to post in bad faith. What I meant was clear, and I’m not going to lower myself by playing a game of whataboutery with you to justify myself.

Theory tests and driving tests are an essential service and should be available to everyone, end of. Waiting 10+ months for a theory test is absolutely unacceptable.

Mr. Karate

Idbatterim wrote: »

If people stopped watching the rte disgrace, they would be forced to change! It would be more effective than us agreeing with each other in this echo chamber. If you watch rte, you are part of the problem!

RTE's ratings could be in the negative numbers and they'll still carry on with this. They're hemorrhaging money and the Govt is dangling a bailout in front of them like a carrot.

Paul Joseph Watson was right when he coined the term Presstitutes. That describes RTE to a tee.

Mr. Karate

Mr. Karate wrote: »

RTE's ratings could be in the negative numbers and they'll still carry on with this. They're hemorrhaging money and the Govt is dangling a bailout in front of them like a carrot.

Paul Joseph Watson was right when he coined the term Presstitutes. That describes RTE to a tee.

Had to look up Paul Joseph Watson. Explains a lot

Boggles

SusieBlue wrote: »

I refuse to engage with you if you are going to post in bad faith. What I meant was clear

It wasn't. You made out getting his license hinged on future employment, it clearly doesn't.

To add to that he lives in a city, if he lived rural you may have had a point.

There is one person here engaging in bad faith and being hyper contrary to suit a narrative. Why would the theory test center lie to your brother for instance, what was in it for them? :rolleyes:

I wish him the best though and hope he secures employment soon, like I said retail are hiring.

pjohnson

Mr. Karate wrote: »

RTE's ratings could be in the negative numbers and they'll still carry on with this. They're hemorrhaging money and the Govt is dangling a bailout in front of them like a carrot.

Paul Joseph Watson was right when he coined the term Presstitutes. That describes RTE to a tee.

Having not heard of this guy before decided to google him, turns out just the standard covid denier/wannabe Alex Jones/conspiracy nut type.

Stormyteacup

Boggles wrote: »

It wasn't. You made out getting his license hinged on future employment, it clearly doesn't.

To add to that he lives in a city, if he lived rural you may have had a point.

There is one person here engaging in bad faith and being hyper contrary to suit a narrative. Why would the theory test center lie to your brother for instance, what was in it for them? :rolleyes:

I wish him the best though and hope he secures employment soon, like I said retail are hiring.

Many posts in this thread have been very informative regarding the negative aspects and issues surrounding restrictions that I might not have realised otherwise.

Is it not time to try find enough empathy and awareness to sift through the moans and rants (guilty!), and for some to take heads out of the sands and admit there are far-reaching and seriously damaging long term negatives disproportionate to the mitigation methods to date?

Some posts are fair game but no need to leap on every poster with a genuine personal concern for their loved ones that is not Covid-illness related.

Mr. Karate

pjohnson wrote: »

Having not heard of this guy before decided to google him, turns out just the standard covid denier/wannabe Alex Jones/conspiracy nut type.

Whether you like him or not or agree with him or not is your own business. He is right though about the media being prostitutes now.

Boggles

Stormyteacup wrote: »

Many posts in this thread have been very informative regarding the negative aspects and issues surrounding restrictions that I might not have realised otherwise.

Is it not time to try find enough empathy and awareness to sift through the moans and rants (guilty!), and for some to take heads out of the sands and admit there are far-reaching and seriously damaging long term negatives disproportionate to the mitigation methods to date?

Some posts are fair game but no need to leap on every poster with a genuine personal concern for their loved ones that is not Covid-illness related.

The poster was offered advice and decided to take offence instead.

TBH we just reported nearly 200 deaths in the past 2 days, people having a moan about something imaginary or not will garner little sympathy from me personally at this moment.

Silentcorner

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Whether you like him or not or agree with him or not is your own business. He is right though about the media being prostitutes now.

They knew exactly who he was...and used his content as an attempt to undermine your point.

The media model has completely changed over the last few years, some people haven't copped how that has damaged their ability to critically analyze media content.

The industry is in hysterical mode, many won't remember this, but last year we had 5 storms in 6 weeks, and the media went hysterical in their coverage of it, damaging retail as they did, but there are many examples of this hysteria which we won't get into.

It is for that reason I chose to consume as little media content as possible last March, we have a pandemic and an hysterical media news cycle, now we are going to have a problem, the fear cannot sustain itself, we aren't seeing mass graves and freezer trucks full of bodies!!!

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

The poster was offered advice and decided to take offence instead.

TBH we just reported nearly 200 deaths in the past 2 days, people having a moan about something imaginary or not will garner little sympathy from me personally at this moment.

So some people die WITH a respiratory illness and you have no sympathy for anyone else because you just consider it “moaning”.

Let me guess, you’re not impacted financially by Covid. Typical.

Mr. Karate

Stormyteacup wrote: »

Many posts in this thread have been very informative regarding the negative aspects and issues surrounding restrictions that I might not have realised otherwise.

Is it not time to try find enough empathy and awareness to sift through the moans and rants (guilty!), and for some to take heads out of the sands and admit there are far-reaching and seriously damaging long term negatives disproportionate to the mitigation methods to date?

Some posts are fair game but no need to leap on every poster with a genuine personal concern for their loved ones that is not Covid-illness related.

Its very easy to see who's struggling throughout all of this and who isn't.

Silentcorner

Silentcorner wrote: »

They knew exactly who he was...and used his content as an attempt to undermine your point.

The media model has completely changed over the last few years, some people haven't copped how that has damaged their ability to critically analyze media content.

The industry is in hysterical mode, many won't remember this, but last year we had 5 storms in 6 weeks, and the media went hysterical in their coverage of it, damaging retail as they did, but there are many examples of this hysteria which we won't get into.

It is for that reason I chose to consume as little media content as possible last March, we have a pandemic and an hysterical media news cycle, now we are going to have a problem, the fear cannot sustain itself, we aren't seeing mass graves and freezer trucks full of bodies!!!

I am sorry, but fringe conspiracy loons do not form the sources of most same people’s daily news intake. Very very few people would know of this hateful individual. I bet a few more here do however.

ypres5

Boggles wrote: »

The poster was offered advice and decided to take offence instead.

TBH we just reported nearly 200 deaths in the past 2 days, people having a moan about something imaginary or not will garner little sympathy from me personally at this moment.

I hope if you ever find yourself struggling in life that people treat you better than you treat them because your attitude towards people stinks

Silentcorner

Deleted User wrote: »

I am sorry, but fringe conspiracy loons do not form the sources of most same people’s daily news intake. Very very few people would know of this hateful individual. I bet a few more here do however.

You knew exactly who he was and you pretended you didn't for some reason, it would take a little more than 5 mins to ascertain all that about someone you never heard of, but the point still stands, the media industry has abandoned balance and that has implications for all of us.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I am sorry, but fringe conspiracy loons do not form the sources of most same people’s daily news intake. Very very few people would know of this hateful individual. I bet a few more here do however.

Any chance you’d knock it off with mentioning conspiracy in every post?

There is a whole dedicated section if you want to go there.

Boggles

Deleted User wrote: »

Any chance you’d knock it off with mentioning conspiracy in every post?

Maybe people should stop quoting hateful conspiracy theorists so.

Mr. Karate

Silentcorner wrote: »

They knew exactly who he was...and used his content as an attempt to undermine your point.

Attacking the messenger instead of the message. The laziest and most cowardly way to shut down a discussion [besides yelling racist and such]

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Any chance you’d knock it off with mentioning conspiracy in every post?

There is a whole dedicated section if you want to go there.

I am not the one quoting a right wing conspiracy loon as if they are a font of all wisdom

walus

Boggles wrote: »

The poster was offered advice and decided to take offence instead.

TBH we just reported nearly 200 deaths in the past 2 days, people having a moan about something imaginary or not will garner little sympathy from me personally at this moment.

There is a constant supply of vulnerable and sick people as the time goes on. Restrictions and lockdowns shield the vulnerable in the short term so that they get to live a few months longer, statistically speaking. The moment they become exposed to flu, pneumonia or something equally bad or worse, the chances of them dying go up significantly. Therefore there is bound to be deaths in waves from covid as that is exactly what on/off lockdown policy causes. Instead of steady level of deaths we have deaths with covid in waves. Not to mention that the median age of those people is higher than life expectancy, which means that they lived longer than statistically we would expect. Most of those folks are at the end of their journeys, and they know that.

So singling out 2 days of figures to build your argument around that is just plain and simple wrong, pointless, ridiculous ... - take your pick. It reminds me of that kind of RTE journalism crap that we got used to expect from them at this stage.

pjohnson

Silentcorner wrote: »

They knew exactly who he was...

Nope. I don't know many rent a gob grifters outside of the main oft quoted few. He hasnt been referenced much so wasn't familiar.
Not everyone obsesses with Grift-of-the-Month.

Silentcorner

The ERSI are now predicting it will take much longer for unemployment levels to drop to pre covid levels, the end of 2023....predicting the unemployment rate will rise this year to 28%.

That is 2/3 years in someone's working life which will have a huge impact on them personally.

The difficulty is, the 20% or so of workers who lost their jobs as a direct response to the lockdowns have been thrown under a bus, they didn't do anything wrong, and at the same time have lost all their social outlets a person would normally use to help them through tough times.

How long do we have to ignore this massive social problem?

WE need to recalibrate our approach before it is too late for many young people in particular.

Silentcorner

Silentcorner wrote: »

You knew exactly who he was and you pretended you didn't for some reason, it would take a little more than 5 mins to ascertain all that about someone you never heard of, but the point still stands, the media industry has abandoned balance and that has implications for all of us.

Didn’t have a clue. A quick google tells anyone all they need to know. Balance is not treating the warblings of lunatics such as Alex Jones and Paul Josesp Watson as having any merit whatsoever

Silentcorner

pjohnson wrote: »

Nope. I don't know many rent a gob grifters outside of the main oft quoted few. He hasnt been referenced much so wasn't familiar.
Not everyone obsesses with Grift-of-the-Month.

Well you found an awful lot of details about him very fast...and Paul Joseph Watson is not the issue here at all, as well you know, it is the state of the media industry.

Mr. Karate

Silentcorner wrote: »

The ERSI are now predicting it will take much longer for unemployment levels to drop to pre covid levels, the end of 2023....predicting the unemployment rate will rise this year to 28%.

That is 2/3 years in someone's working life which will have a huge impact on them personally.

The difficulty is, the 20% or so of workers who lost their jobs as a direct response to the lockdowns have been thrown under a bus, they didn't do anything wrong, and at the same time have lost all their social outlets a person would normally use to help them through tough times.

How long do we have to ignore this massive social problem?

WE need to recalibrate our approach before it is too late for many young people in particular.

This is why when more and more Countries start emerging from Lockdowns we'll see alot of Young Adults emigrating if the Govt still insists on these harsh lockdowns.

Mr. Karate

Silentcorner wrote: »

Well you found an awful lot of details about him very fast...and Paul Joseph Watson is not the issue here at all, as well you know, it is the state of the media industry.

They're attacking the messenger instead of the message. They're too lazy and cowardly to debate what he said about the media.

pjohnson

Silentcorner wrote: »

Well you found an awful lot of details about him very fast...and Paul Joseph Watson is not the issue here at all, as well you know, it is the state of the media industry.

Its called Google. Its surprisingly designed to do exactly that.

Silentcorner

Lads, ye knew exactly who he was...ye were in with the comments in about 5 mins flat.

Stop pretending, it's got nothing to do with the state of the media industry.

It was only a few days ago you were suggesting that people who had an alternate opinion on lockdown policy shouldn't be allowed to air their views, you called them lunatics as such.

I suggest you watch as much content as Anders Tegnell as you can, who can hardly be accused of being a far right grifter.. it won't do you any harm at all!!