Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII Read OP For Mod Warnings

Penfailed · 03-02-2021 04:25PM

SnuggyBear wrote: »

They are advised to wear masks in their home? Dam

Only in the communal areas. I'd imagine it's not adhered to or enforced for that matter.

Golfman64 · 03-02-2021 04:30PM

Graham wrote: »

less people moving around = less virus moving around

It's literally that simple.

It might sound that simple but in reality it’s not.

For anyone in the tourism, aviation and hospitality sectors, the idea of a prolonged and non-nuanced lockdown through Summer 2021 is not sufficient.

We need to be finding ways to enable more activities safely this summer through increased testing, tracing and maybe even vaccination passports for quarantine free entry such as is starting to happen with other EU countries.

It’s all well and good if you have a job which is unaffected by prolonged blanket lockdowns but to continue like this with a relatively poor financial support structure for both affected employees and businesses when compared to other countries in the EU is completely unsustainable.

SnuggyBear · 03-02-2021 04:35PM

Multipass wrote: »

In the shared kitchen and living area. And ideally spend most time in their bedroom.... alone I presume.

Grim

facehugger99 · 03-02-2021 04:42PM

walus wrote: »

The last time i watched RTE was in November. I've no time for them any more.

I'd say it's about 20 years ago for me - maybe more. Never listen to their radio output either - life is too short for that.

Other than the Toy Show and their news website I get no exposure to them but from what I See on their website is an embarrassment to journalism.

hynesie08 · 03-02-2021 04:57PM

SnuggyBear wrote: »

Grim

It would be if it was true.

FintanMcluskey · 03-02-2021 05:06PM

I see Dublin airport, despite being down 94% of footfall from this time last year, is still making the news.

Turns out nearly all travel through the airport is essential.

Some 81% of all coronavirus-linked deaths in healthcare settings in the Republic of Ireland have been in nursing homes

Is community transmission responsible for the above?

Does closing construction in any way mitigate the risk in those places?

Golfman64 · 03-02-2021 05:10PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I see Dublin airport, despite being down 94% of footfall from this time last year, is still making the news.

Turns out nearly all travel through the airport is essential.

Is community transmission responsible for the above?

Does closing construction in any way mitigate the risk in those places?

A fantastic use of Garda resources at the airport alright! But hey, it's good PR for the government and keeps the media away from the real topics.....

03-02-2021 05:10PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I see Dublin airport, despite being down 94% of footfall from this time last year, is still making the news.

Turns out nearly all travel through the airport is essential.

Is community transmission responsible for the above?

Does closing construction in any way mitigate the risk in those places?

Does the virus just hop in a taxi and go straight from the airport to the nursing home?

FintanMcluskey · 03-02-2021 05:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Does the virus just hop in a taxi and go straight from the airport to the nursing home?

Nursing home patients are unlikely to be catching taxis outside terminal 2 I would imagine

average_runner · 03-02-2021 05:12PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I see Dublin airport, despite being down 94% of footfall from this time last year, is still making the news.

Turns out nearly all travel through the airport is essential.

Is community transmission responsible for the above?

Does closing construction in any way mitigate the risk in those places?

Sadly the community is at fault here. Once the virus got rampant in the community it finds its way into the nursing homes.

If one person in a bubble where someone works in a nursing home, let's their guard down over xmas, then it got in to the home.

Feel so sorry for the staff that brought into the nursing home if it wasn't their fault. Staff are so close to the residents!

Graces7 · 03-02-2021 05:13PM

walus wrote: »

The last time i watched RTE was in November. I've no time for them any more.

I have no TV or radio. Just the internet. I check rte.ie and breaking news.ie online e sites a couple of times a day; open what articles I choose . They publish the day's cases and fatalities around 6 pm every day. It is enough.

03-02-2021 05:16PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Nursing home patients are unlikely to be catching taxis outside terminal 2 I would imagine

Do I need to join the dots for you?

FintanMcluskey · 03-02-2021 05:16PM

Golfman64 wrote: »

A fantastic use of Garda resources at the airport alright! But hey, it's good PR for the government and keeps the media away from the real topics.....

Another real topic

More than 1,500 people have died with Covid-19 in nursing homes in the Republic of Ireland, the Oireachtas Health Committee has heard.

Where could one find the statistics to add to above of how many of those who contracted the disease in hospital subsequently died, or the exact figure of hospital acquired infection?

I wonder what’s the exact number of deaths directly attributable to community transmission?

average_runner · 03-02-2021 05:18PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Another real topic

Where could one find the statistics to add to above of how many of those who contracted the disease in hospital subsequently died, or the exact figure of hospital acquired infection?

I wonder what’s the exact number of deaths directly attributable to community transmission?

And how does the virus get into the hospital. A friend at home told me today that someone turned up at A&E coughing and waiting on results of a covid test!!!

facehugger99 · 03-02-2021 05:46PM

average_runner wrote: »

And how does the virus get into the hospital. A friend at home told me today that someone turned up at A&E coughing and waiting on results of a covid test!!!

And Level 5 lockdowns stop this from happening how?

Cerveza · 03-02-2021 05:50PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

And Level 5 lockdowns stop this from happening how?

If you live further than 5km from a hospital.

Boggles · 03-02-2021 06:03PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

And Level 5 lockdowns stop this from happening how?

It's prevents exponentially more showing up at A&E coughing.

10 months in, this should be obvious stuff at this stage.

MOH · 03-02-2021 06:30PM

Boggles wrote: »

It's prevents exponentially more showing up at A&E coughing.

10 months in, this should be obvious stuff at this stage.

Do you have a source for that?
10 months in, would be nice if you started

Other things that were obvious long before 10 months in are the need for quarantines and proper contact tracing, neither of which the powers that be have bothered with.

Nor have they implemented a lot of the recommendations that came out of the review of the nursing homes disaster last spring.
Probably the biggest saving grace there is that at least this time around Tony Holohan isn't telling everyone it's OK to go and visit.

But yeah, it's all the general public's fault :rolleyes:

walus · 03-02-2021 06:55PM

Multipass wrote: »

Of course they aren’t - that’s not the point. Those are the instructions from the uni. There is a cohort of people in a position of authority who think this is appropriate. Nothing seems too ridiculous in this new dystopian ‘normal’.

It does feel like living in an upside-down world.

Healthcare workers get tested in the morning for covid yet they get to work throughout two full days until receiving positive results and only then taken of the roster. At the same time we are locking down the country, shutting down whole industries and painstakingly try to prove to one another the logic of why that makes sense and how the virus travels from the airport to the care homes. Healthy and young get paid to sit at home and do nothing, while the 60 something and often vulnerable need to show up every day to drive a bus. Developing a vaccine so that the first world can come back to normality while there is 2000 children dying of diarrhoea every single day somewhere across the globe and Pfizer or Moderna nowhere to be found to solve the problem. If this is not fcuked up I don’t know what is.

Idbatterim · 03-02-2021 07:12PM

If people stopped watching the rte disgrace, they would be forced to change! It would be more effective than us agreeing with each other in this echo chamber. If you watch rte, you are part of the problem!

SusieBlue · 03-02-2021 07:23PM

My brother got in touch with a TD to see if there was anything that could be done about the 9 month postponement of his driving theory test due to the restrictions.

The TD contacted the testing centre on his behalf and it turns out that they lied to my brother, the centres aren’t running at 20% capacity due to social distancing, they aren’t open at all.
They have been closed since the level 5 lockdown was put in place in December and won’t be reopening again until at least March 5th, or whenever level 5 is lifted.

They closed for Christmas and never reopened, so that’s almost two and a half months worth of completely cancelled appointments.
No wonder they rescheduled him for late August, it’ll take them until then and beyond to clear the backlog this is causing.

Driving is essential, the fact that these centres are closed for a prolonged period of time is a total joke.
I don’t know why more noise isn’t being made about this.

Ha Long Bay · 03-02-2021 07:28PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

My brother got in touch with a TD to see if there was anything that could be done about the 9 month postponement of his driving theory test due to the restrictions.

The TD contacted the testing centre on his behalf and it turns out that they lied to my brother, the centres aren’t running at 20% capacity due to social distancing, they aren’t open at all.
They have been closed since the level 5 lockdown was put in place in December and won’t be reopening again until at least March 5th, or whenever level 5 is lifted.

They closed for Christmas and never reopened, so that’s almost two and a half months worth of completely cancelled appointments.
No wonder they rescheduled him for late August, it’ll take them until then and beyond to clear the backlog this is causing.

Driving is essential, the fact that these centres are closed for a prolonged period of time is a total joke.
I don’t know why more noise isn’t being made about this.

https://www.rsa.ie/en/Utility/News/Alerts/Coronavirus-COVIDID--19--No-Disruption-to-RSA-Services/

"Under Covid-19 Level 5 Government restrictions effective from 31 December, you can attend your scheduled driving test appointment provided you are an essential worker. You can find details on what is included in the list of essential workers on www.gov.ie;

03-02-2021 07:29PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

If people stopped watching the rte disgrace, they would be forced to change! It would be more effective than us agreeing with each other in this echo chamber. If you watch rte, you are part of the problem!

Forever tilting at windmills

SnuggyBear · 03-02-2021 07:31PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

It would be if it was true.

Well I believe him

SusieBlue · 03-02-2021 07:34PM

john4321 wrote: »

https://www.rsa.ie/en/Utility/News/Alerts/Coronavirus-COVIDID--19--No-Disruption-to-RSA-Services/

"Under Covid-19 Level 5 Government restrictions effective from 31 December, you can attend your scheduled driving test appointment provided you are an essential worker. You can find details on what is included in the list of essential workers on www.gov.ie£;

Thanks for the link dump.
It shouldn’t just be for essential workers, it should be for everyone. His test was supposed to be on Monday, it’s been rescheduled for August. He is on PUP and needs to learn to drive in the hope of securing alternative employment. August is absolutely useless to anyone who needs to start learning now.

It should be classed as essential, no question of it.

And regardless, the email he received says ALL tests are cancelled as the government deems it to be non essential. It gives no option to go ahead with it or confirm if you are an essential worker, so the fact that tests are allegedly going ahead is irrelevant.

Boggles · 03-02-2021 07:40PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

It shouldn’t just be for essential workers, it should be for everyone. His test was supposed to be on Monday, it’s been rescheduled for August. He is on PUP and needs to learn to drive in the hope of securing alternative employment.

He wouldn't be taken on as a professional driver for at least 2 years if he passed his test today AFAIK.

Also I imagine the driving schools are not working at the minute either.

Ironhead93 · 03-02-2021 07:41PM

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

Question: hospital numbers down approx 200 since Monday. Yet nobody reporting this on the news to any great detail. If figures were up 200 would the news cycle be similar and if not why not?

It's the classic media tactic, keep people scared and on their toes so they'll comply with the draconian restrictions.

Penfailed · 03-02-2021 07:46PM

Boggles wrote: »

He wouldn't be taken on as a professional driver for at least 2 years if he passed his test today AFAIK.

Also I imagine the driving schools are not working at the minute either.

That's not the point. You don't need to be a professional driver to have a license as a job requirement. There are many jobs that ask for a full clean licence when applying.

SusieBlue · 03-02-2021 07:54PM

Boggles wrote: »

He wouldn't be taken on as a professional driver for at least 2 years if he passed his test today AFAIK.

Also I imagine the driving schools are not working at the minute either.

He’s not looking for work as a professional driver, he is looking to apply for jobs in more rural locations outside the city centre where the public transport is crap. He would have more opportunities available to him if he wasn’t reliant on the bus, which previously wasn’t a problem as he lives and worked near the city centre.

Driving schools are actually working at the moment, not just for essential workers, but for anyone who wants to take lessons.

This backlog is going to cause huge problems down the line. A 10 month wait to do a theory test is a joke.

franciscanpunk · 03-02-2021 08:00PM

Boggles wrote: »

He wouldn't be taken on as a professional driver for at least 2 years if he passed his test today AFAIK.

Also I imagine the driving schools are not working at the minute either.

Oh FFS! They hardly mean he needs hia theory test to get a job as a profesaional driver as recently laid off:)

As in the ability to deive to attend workplaces that are further away and not accessible by piblic transport.

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII Read OP For Mod Warnings