Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

pjohnson

Silentcorner wrote: »

Lads, ye knew exactly who he was...ye were in with the comments in about 5 mins flat.

Stop pretending, it's got nothing to do with the state of the media industry.

It was only a few days ago you were suggesting that people who had an alternate opinion on lockdown policy shouldn't be allowed to air their views, you called them lunatics as such.

I suggest you watch as much content as Anders Tegnell as you can, who can hardly be accused of being a far right grifter.. it won't do you any harm at all!!

Does it take you more than 5 minutes to type three words into Google and read the first line that comes up? Not a great strain for most.


This is off topic anyway. Sorry I dissed your current hero.

Silentcorner

Silentcorner wrote: »

The ERSI are now predicting it will take much longer for unemployment levels to drop to pre covid levels, the end of 2023....predicting the unemployment rate will rise this year to 28%.

That is 2/3 years in someone's working life which will have a huge impact on them personally.

The difficulty is, the 20% or so of workers who lost their jobs as a direct response to the lockdowns have been thrown under a bus, they didn't do anything wrong, and at the same time have lost all their social outlets a person would normally use to help them through tough times.

How long do we have to ignore this massive social problem?

WE need to recalibrate our approach before it is too late for many young people in particular.

At some point, the 72% will have to pay for the 28% social welfare.

And I’m sure they won’t be happy. Even though they asked for it.

Mr. Karate

Mr. Karate wrote: »

They're attacking the messenger instead of the message. They're too lazy and cowardly to debate what he said about the media.

That combining the word press and prostitute makes you think the this hateful scumbag grifter somehow reveals an insight into the world, let alone expresses an ounce of wit says a lot. Big swing. He combined two words. This is from the same towering intellects that believe use of words such as libtard and cuck denotes intelligence. These are two bit grifters spewing hate to pad their wallets, taking advantage of vulnerable minds impressed by that infantile sh*te. Presstitute, how witty and intelligent! Give me a f*ckin break.

Now where else a bit closer do we see these type of infantile labels put on groups?

Multipass

Deleted User wrote: »

At some point, the 72% will have to pay for the 28% social welfare.

And I’m sure they won’t be happy. Even though they asked for it.

Won’t be long before they’re berating the lazy unemployed.

walus

Silentcorner wrote: »

The ERSI are now predicting it will take much longer for unemployment levels to drop to pre covid levels, the end of 2023....predicting the unemployment rate will rise this year to 28%.

That is 2/3 years in someone's working life which will have a huge impact on them personally.

The difficulty is, the 20% or so of workers who lost their jobs as a direct response to the lockdowns have been thrown under a bus, they didn't do anything wrong, and at the same time have lost all their social outlets a person would normally use to help them through tough times.

How long do we have to ignore this massive social problem?

WE need to recalibrate our approach before it is too late for many young people in particular.

The problem is that politicians today cannot look beyond the next three months, never mind three years. They can only solve one problem at the time. This whole ‘pandemic’ issue has been treated by the government as a short term problem, and still is btw.

normanoffside

The covid Positive rate is now 4 times the national average in the 85+ age group.


But of course there is nothing our health experts can do about that or could ever have done about it. Absolutely nothing...


https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1357037064039124993

normanoffside

McNamara brought this up in the Dail today and insinuated that perhaps NPHET's reluctance to introduce Antigen testing in care home and other settings is due to Cillian De Gascun's PCR lab and contract for testing...

https://twitter.com/MlMcNamaraTD/status/1356972609527832576

ceadaoin.

Silentcorner wrote: »

The ERSI are now predicting it will take much longer for unemployment levels to drop to pre covid levels, the end of 2023....predicting the unemployment rate will rise this year to 28%.

That is 2/3 years in someone's working life which will have a huge impact on them personally.

The difficulty is, the 20% or so of workers who lost their jobs as a direct response to the lockdowns have been thrown under a bus, they didn't do anything wrong, and at the same time have lost all their social outlets a person would normally use to help them through tough times.

How long do we have to ignore this massive social problem?

WE need to recalibrate our approach before it is too late for many young people in particular.

Once they arent dead of covid they deserve little sympathy according to some on here. Covid is all that matters in the minds of many people

Silentcorner

normanoffside wrote: »

McNamara brought this up in the Dail today and insinuated that perhaps NPHET's reluctance to introduce Antigen testing in care home and other settings is due to Cillian De Gascun's PCR lab and contract for testing...

https://twitter.com/MlMcNamaraTD/status/1356972609527832576

Well, at least we know one of Tribunals that we will be forking out over €60 million for in years to come I suppose!!!

FintanMcluskey

normanoffside wrote: »

McNamara brought this up in the Dail today and insinuated that perhaps NPHET's reluctance to introduce Antigen testing in care home and other settings is due to Cillian De Gascun's PCR lab and contract for testing...

https://twitter.com/MlMcNamaraTD/status/1356972609527832576

Never waste a crisis to make a few extra pound

We are also likely paying above the odds for a relatively slow vaccination programme

In total, GPs and pharmacists would be paid €60 per patient under this vaccination plan. GPs working in mass vaccination centres will be paid €120 per hour.

The government says deal with GPs and pharmacists will be seen as “good value for money” despite UK GPs getting paid £12 per jab administered.

walus

normanoffside wrote: »

The covid Positive rate is now 4 times the national average in the 85+ age group.


But of course there is nothing our health experts can do about that or could ever have done about it. Absolutely nothing...


https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1357037064039124993

Don’t blame them. Wasn’t it the rest of the country supposed to isolate themselves to protect those vulnerable folks? Or am I missing something?

normanoffside

Silentcorner wrote: »

Well, at least we know one of Tribunals that we will be forking out over €60 million for in years to come I suppose!!!

As Pat Kenny said today NPHET are like a car going 50kmh on a motorway.
Ridiculously slow to consider anything different to the same as it's always been so we just keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again thanks to their advice....

Silentcorner

Silentcorner wrote: »

Well, at least we know one of Tribunals that we will be forking out over €60 million for in years to come I suppose!!!

Who do you think owns the NVRL?

GazzaL

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Never waste a crisis to make a few extra pound

We are also likely paying above the odds for a relatively slow vaccination programme

€120 an hour? This'll be like lads on day rates dragging out jobs. We might get vaccinated by 2025.

normanoffside

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Never waste a crisis to make a few extra pound

We are also likely paying above the odds for a relatively slow vaccination programme

Spending extra money is all well and good but this is not about cash.

PCR tests cost €100-€150 and they are done once a fortnight in care homes.
The results take a day to come through so you can have Care home workers running around infected for a day after testing positive or 15 days considering they are only tested once every 14 days.

Antigen tests cost €5-€10 and while they might be less accurate (open to opinion), they give immediate results so you could test every care home worker every day and avoid them working when infected (if they test positive) for less than the price (and risk) of a fortnightly PCR test. The reluctance to use them is quite simply illogical.

GazzaL

normanoffside wrote: »

Spending extra money is all well and good but this is not about cash.

PCR tests cost €100-€150 and they are done once a fortnight in care homes.
The results take a day to come through so you can have Care home workers running around infected for a day after testing positive or 15 days considering they are only tested once every 14 days.

Antigen tests cost €5-€10 and while they might be less accurate (open to opinion), they give immediate results so you could test every care home worker every day and avoid them working when infected (if they test positive) for less than the price (and risk) of a fortnightly PCR test. The reluctance to use them is quite simply illogical.

Silentcorner

normanoffside wrote: »

Spending extra money is all well and good but this is not about cash.

PCR tests cost €100-€150 and they are done once a fortnight in care homes.
The results take a day to come through so you can have Care home workers running around infected for a day after testing positive or 15 days considering they are only tested once every 14 days.

Antigen tests cost €5-€10 and while they might be less accurate (open to opinion), they give immediate results so you could test every care home worker every day and avoid them working when infected (if they test positive) for less than the price (and risk) of a fortnightly PCR test. The reluctance to use them is quite simply illogical.

So this may well have cost lives....needlessly.

FintanMcluskey

GazzaL wrote: »

A total of 1,543 people have died due to Covid-19 in nursing homes, with 369 of those having occurred in the month of January.

Meanwhile journalists assemble at Dublin Airport where traffic is down 94% from January last year. A €500 euro fine has been mandated for unnecessary travel.
Stephen Donnelly issued stark warnings about non essential travel earlier on the radio.

normanoffside

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Meanwhile journalists assemble at Dublin Airport where traffic is down 94% from January last year. A €500 euro fine has been mandated for unnecessary travel.
Stephen Donnelly issued stark warnings about non essential travel earlier on the radio.

You could buy 100 antigen tests for the cost of that fine, unfortunately for us Cillian De Gascun wouldn't earn a penny so we'll pay for 4 PCRs instead.

normanoffside

normanoffside wrote: »

You could buy 100 antigen tests for the cost of that fine, unfortunately for us Cillian De Gascun wouldn't earn a penny so we'll pay for 4 PCRs instead.

Who do you think owns the NVRL?

hamburgham

normanoffside wrote: »

McNamara brought this up in the Dail today and insinuated that perhaps NPHET's reluctance to introduce Antigen testing in care home and other settings is due to Cillian De Gascun's PCR lab and contract for testing...

https://twitter.com/MlMcNamaraTD/status/1356972609527832576

God, how pathetic is Mehole in that clip. That’s our leader, gormless.

normanoffside

Deleted User wrote: »

Who do you think owns the NVRL?

Don't know who owns it (enlighten me), But Cillian De Gascun is it's Director.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Virus_Reference_Laboratory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cillian_de_Gascun

normanoffside

normanoffside wrote: »

Don't know who owns it (enlighten me), But Cillian De Gascun is it's Director.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Virus_Reference_Laboratory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cillian_de_Gascun

More specifically he is laboratory director. A salaried employ of NVRL at University College Dublin, affiliated to the school of medicine. I am sure he pockets the money used to pay for the tests

FintanMcluskey

Deleted User wrote: »

More specifically he is laboratory director. A salaried employ of NVRL at University College Dublin, affiliated to the school of medicine. I am sure he pockets the money used to pay for the tests

Directors can take dividends and pay into pension funds on top of their salaries.

It’s in a directors interest to increase profit

normanoffside

Deleted User wrote: »

More specifically he is laboratory director. A salaried employ of NVRL at University College Dublin, affiliated to the school of medicine. I am sure he pockets the money used to pay for the tests

Did you every hear of a bias that might come from 'supporting your own team'? In any case using antigen tests is no reason to use less PCR tests; you could do both.
The reluctance to change or think differently in NPHET and Government has been apparent throughout.
There has never been any nuance, just like that driver going at 50kmh on the M50 to avoid an accident.

GazzaL

normanoffside wrote: »

Did you every hear of a bias that might come from 'supporting your own team'? In any case using antigen tests is no reason to use less PCR tests; you could do both.
The reluctance to change or think differently in NPHET and Government has been apparent throughout.
There has never been any nuance, just like that driver going at 50kmh on the M50 to avoid an accident.

In other countries, they have minimum speed limits to prevent clowns from doing 50km/h on motorways, as doing so increases the risk of accidents.

normanoffside

normanoffside wrote: »

Did you every hear of a bias that might come from 'supporting your own team'? In any case using antigen tests is no reason to use less PCR tests; you could do both.
The reluctance to change or think differently in NPHET and Government has been apparent throughout.
There has never been any nuance, just like that driver going at 50kmh on the M50 to avoid an accident.

It’s not a reason the imply he is on the take. The NVRL also only do a small fraction of the testing.

The thread never allows accuracy or facts get in the way of a good rant however

FintanMcluskey

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Directors can take dividends and pay into pension funds on top of their salaries.

It’s in a directors interest to increase profit

In a university lab?

suicide_circus

Does CdeG personally benefit financially from the the type of testing an official body he is a member of favours?

hamburgham

Was out in Swords earlier and passed Ryanair’s headquarters in total darkness. Was really sad. All the hard work and energy that went into building that company. The haters don’t have to work for them or fly with them. Millions of us do and are eternally grateful to them for opening up all of Europe . Michael O’ Leary has more ability in his little finger than NPHET and MM and Leo combined. I am really furious about the damage they have done to the aviation industry. Their job was to protect the elderly for which they have abdicated responsibility and not destroy businesses all over the country.