COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

namloc1980

beggars_bush wrote: »

If the staff needed are on holidays, you cannot do much.

In the middle of a once in a lifetime public health crisis and we're the only country in the EU who won't start vaccinating this weekend - in fact we won't start until next Wednesday. This attitude is exactly why.

hotmail.com

beggars_bush wrote: »

If the staff needed are on holidays, you cannot do much.

I think an exception can be made for heaven's sake.

mike8634

beggars_bush wrote: »

I'd rather they wait a few days and do it properly.

Hse staff are entitled to a bit of time off too.

Its 2 ****ing boxes!

I'd deliver them to the nurses myself

whisky_galore

beggars_bush wrote: »

If the staff needed are on holidays, you cannot do much.

The whole lot of them.
At the exact same time.
Yeah right.

A piffling amount of doses and we can't even get the ball rolling on those.

ixoy

I really hope that journalists don't let them away with this and demand answers. Every other country also has Christmas holidays and yet they're starting up because, knowing that vaccines have been coming for months, they've done this crazy thing called planning.

namloc1980

So the excuses we've seen for not starting immediately have been:

1. "We're an island and it'll take longer to get here". Well it's here now and Malta and Cyprus are starting their vaccinations tomorrow.
2. "We need time to train people". FFS we knew this day was coming and other countries have started today!
3. "Everyone is on holidays". That's a sad indictment on our ability to get this right.

funnydoggy

funnydoggy wrote: »

Exciting stuff. I was initially angry with the 9-5 thing but good news is coming in fast the last day or two. Here's to a healthy 2021!

Pissed off again! We couldn't organise a pissup in a brewery.

bush

They really love showing pics of those freezers. Proud as punch.

Summer2020

Zero excuse for not starting this 8am Monday morning. Every day counts in the effort to get life back to normal. In and of itself it doesn’t make a huge difference I suppose, however it’s the typical laidback Irish attitude which would really infuriate you when we’ve all been through so much.

Marhay70

beggars_bush wrote: »

If the staff needed are on holidays, you cannot do much.

Every second counts with this virus.
Get them back, pay them or sack them whichever it takes, the public will back it.

namloc1980

bush wrote: »

They really love showing pics of those freezers. Proud as punch.

Other countries have photo ops of people actually getting the vaccine. We have pictures of forklifts and large freezers. We're some joke.

whisky_galore

ixoy wrote: »

I really hope that journalists don't let them away with this and demand answers. Every other country also has Christmas holidays and yet they're starting up because, knowing that vaccines have been coming for months, they've done this crazy thing called planning.

Journos should give them a right hammering over it, only they're probably all on their hols too and TV and Radio are on Xmas autopilot.

A good time to bury poor performance news.

bush

namloc1980 wrote: »

Other countries have photo ops of people actually getting the vaccine. We have pictures of forklifts and large freezers. We're some joke.

Start as you mean to go on

namloc1980

Local TD in Longford says the nursing home residents there will get first dose in the last week of January which means middle/end of February for the 2nd dose. Oh and it'll take 8 full days to do the 800 residents.

We're going to be at this for years aren't we.

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Kivaro

beggars_bush wrote: »

I'd rather they wait a few days and do it properly.

Hse staff are entitled to a bit of time off too.

And herein lies the problem with Ireland.
I am actually embarrassed when I try to explain the delay to people overseas, because there is no real viable answer on why Ireland is delaying with our vaccination rollout. Delaying = deliberately withholding the vaccine that is already in the country, where timing is crucial and an immediate rollout could save people's lives.

Sometimes our little country is a bewildering place.

funnydoggy

Journalists need to make noise about this.

Away With The Fairies

Heard on the news that the reason for waiting till next Wednesday is because of training?

Eh, wtf? They knew vaccines were coming, so couldn't the training have been done before the approval of vaccines and have all that done?

The delay in vaccinating is a joke. It's lives lost and more restrictions.

namloc1980

Apparently Slovakia started today as well. Bulgaria starting first thing in the morning with the Health Minister talking it live on TV - high level of antivax sentiment in Bulgaria apparently.

namloc1980

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Heard on the news that the reason for waiting till next Wednesday is because of training?

Eh, wtf? They knew vaccines were coming, so couldn't the training have been done before the approval of vaccines and have all that done?

The delay in vaccinating is a joke. It's lives lost and more restrictions.

Sounds like we're the only country in the EU who forgot to provide training. It's actually embarrassing and infuriating.

Away With The Fairies

namloc1980 wrote: »

Sounds like we're the only country in the EU who forgot to provide training. It's actually embarrassing and infuriating.

I'd be happy if my vet inject me, get the damn thing rolling.

gctest50

bush wrote: »

They really love showing pics of those freezers. Proud as punch.

Grand 'till Storm Bella knocks out the power to the frdges

and no-one checked the backup generators

and no-one ordered the backup nitrogen system

stephenjmcd

namloc1980 wrote: »

Local TD in Longford says the nursing home residents there will get first dose in the last week of January which means middle/end of February for the 2nd dose. Oh and it'll take 8 full days to do the 800 residents.

We're going to be at this for years aren't we.

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The dates were published yesterday, this is nothing new.

The date for every nursing home in the country was in the Independent.

Mid feb is right on track for nursing homes & their staff they aren't exactly just doing nursing homes during Jan & Feb either

namloc1980

gctest50 wrote: »

Grand 'till Storm Bella knocks out the power

and no-one checked the backup generators

and no-one ordered the backup nitrogen system

Unfortunately it's quite plausible that that could happen.

bush

I knew they would **** it up but I didn't think they could do it before they even started

whisky_galore

namloc1980 wrote: »

Sounds like we're the only country in the EU who forgot to provide training. It's actually embarrassing and infuriating.

It's not as if they've never had to inject anyone before. How long does this training have to be?

ShamNNspace

funnydoggy wrote: »

Journalists need to make noise about this.

Ah I remember it well, when we had journalists in this country, the ones who might go and seek out whats happening rather than blindly take government releases as gospel

namloc1980

stephenjmcd wrote: »

The dates were published yesterday, this is nothing new.

The date for every nursing home in the country was in the Independent

Yes and it's going to take an age to get done bearing in mind this is Group 1 of 15.

Kivaro

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Heard on the news that the reason for waiting till next Wednesday is because of training?

So the other countries who received the vaccine today and are starting their vaccination programme today or tomorrow have smarter medical staff than Ireland, because they can be trained in a matter of hours?
We truly have an incompetent and unaccountable HSE if they delay with our rollout. They are holding the country to ransom, and the government is allowing it to happen.

stephenjmcd

namloc1980 wrote: »

Yes and it's going to take an age to get done bearing in mind this is Group 1 of 15.

They aren't doing one group at a time. Not sure how many times this has to be said. Its widely available in the vacination documentation released recently which is a living document

Nursing homes take longer as they have to go to them, others will go to mass vaccination centres and in centralised locations.

Away With The Fairies

Kivaro wrote: »

So the other countries who received the vaccine today and are starting their vaccination programme today or tomorrow have smarter medical staff than Ireland, because they can be trained in a matter of hours?
We truly have an incompetent and unaccountable HSE if they delay with our rollout. They are holding the country to ransom, and the government is allowing it to happen.

Where are these vaccines stored? We should all roll up tomorrow morning demanding our vaccines.