COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 2 [Mod Warning - Post #1]

xhomelezz

hmmm wrote: »

And I know some people might see it as moaning, but administering vaccines is simply a question of how efficient you are at logistics, planning & resources. It's directly comparable between counties, whereas the response to Covid itself is difficult to compare.

If some EU countries are rolling out vaccines tomorrow, they have done a better job. Maybe they've over-stretched themselves and it all falls apart, but that sounds unlikely. It's important we know why we're not on the same schedule, and what resources or work-practice changes we need to close the gap - and push the politicians to deliver.

Def not moaning. Plan should have been there clear as a sky now. If there is a good reason why we'll start on Wednesday, they should say so. Apart from everything else quick rollout would win public support for continuing restrictions as well imo. Well definitely my one.

hmmm

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

It would be very easy for us to vaccinate a few people tomorrow and say we’ve started.

I would have chosen to do that. even on a small scale. Can you imagine the PR and morale boost if we had vaccinated some ICU nurses this evening or tomorrow? The whole country would have been thrilled, and instead many of us are wondering why we have vaccines sitting in a fridge.

We knew for months that vaccines were in phase 3 trials, we knew they were 2-dose regimes, and we knew the storage and transport requirements. Maybe we needed to wait a while to get exact requirements, but we knew (for example) that we would need an IT system.

namloc1980

Cyprus starting tomorrow with their vaccinations. From what I've seen we'll be the last EU country to start. Doesn't reflect well on our ability to roll this out effectively.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2020/12/22/coronavirus-vaccinations-to-begin-on-sunday/

MerlinSouthDub

hmmm wrote: »

I would have chosen to do that. even on a small scale. Can you imagine the PR and morale boost if we had vaccinated some ICU nurses this evening or tomorrow? The whole country would have been thrilled, and instead many of us are wondering why we have vaccines sitting in a fridge.

We knew for months that vaccines were in phase 3 trials, we knew they were 2-dose regimes, and we knew the storage and transport requirements. Maybe we needed to wait a while to get exact requirements, but we knew (for example) that we would need an IT system.

Yeah, I don’t understand why they are not doing some PR vaccinations tomorrow at least, doesn’t make a lot of sense. Anyway I actually think we will use up our supplies every week so perhaps it doesn’t really matter.

Van.Bosch

xhomelezz wrote: »

Def not moaning. Plan should have been there clear as a sky now. If there is a good reason why we'll start on Wednesday, they should say so. Apart from everything else quick rollout would win public support for continuing restrictions as well imo. Well definitely my one.

Spot on - why is no one even asking why we are 4 days behind considering we actually have the vaccines? If there is a reason - say it.

I know by the end of the week the 9750 doses will be used so it’s not that we won’t catch up but if the whole EU is starting tomorrow what’s the delay, as someone said above, even if they did 100 in a hospital it would look good.

xhomelezz

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

It would be very easy for us to vaccinate a few people tomorrow and say we’ve started. This would tell us nothing about how good our planning is. Let’s see how each country does over the next few weeks. The supplies at this stage are quite modest, it would be very poor if we don’t use up our allocation in full every week.

That's not the point tho, vaccinate few people to look good. But use our allocation fast and meaningfully to be ready for next one.

We'll surely see how other EU members do and I hope we'll do great.

JP Liz V1

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1342934483599839234

namloc1980

The initial excuses for the slow rollout was that we are an island and things take time. Turns out Malta and Cyprus are starting tomorrow.

This 4 days of waiting to start just reinforces the perception of laziness and inefficiency in the public services.

ACitizenErased

marno21 wrote: »

When’s our next delivery of vaccines coming?

If we only have 10k, and these are all being deployed in hospital settings, could it be that we are doing it on the 30/31st and then waiting for the next delivery?

As far as I know there's more coming next week

mike8634

namloc1980 wrote: »

The initial excuses for the slow rollout was that we are an island and things take time. Turns out Malta and Cyprus are starting tomorrow.

This 4 days of waiting to start just reinforces the perception of laziness and inefficiency in the public services.

Pathetic isn't it

Not one reason given as well

Loads asking the question on Twitter and they can't even bother to reply

Didn't take them 4 days to lockdown businesses!

People might finally wake up to those clowns when we won't have the nursing homes vaccinated next month

lbj666

namloc1980 wrote: »

The initial excuses for the slow rollout was that we are an island and things take time. Turns out Malta and Cyprus are starting tomorrow.

This 4 days of waiting to start just reinforces the perception of laziness and inefficiency in the public services.

It doesn't look great but they easily catch up with the rate of delivery, I'm more disappointed that nursing homes have to wait another 3 weeks.
Depends on the first 40000 batch but I presume that's first week in January. We d all prefer to see freezers emptied as quick as they are filled, insted of them lieing there.

xhomelezz

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1342934483599839234

To be honest, he says feck all.

Have a nice evening or night everyone, gonna see what's left in my beer fridge and watch a movie.

Hopefully next year will be much better.
Can't wait for my dose

ACitizenErased

My father said that the reason it isn't starting until next week is because management are on Christmas holidays.

Away With The Fairies

If we have vaccines in the country, why wait four days?

Stheno

ACitizenErased wrote: »

My father said that the reason it isn't starting until next week is because management are on Christmas holidays.

Seriously???

lbj666

ACitizenErased wrote: »

My father said that the reason it isn't starting until next week is because management are on Christmas holidays.

Could they not take all of 2022 off

ACitizenErased

Stheno wrote: »

Seriously???

Yeah deadly serious. Vaccine hubs (hes in charge of logistics for testing hubs etc in Cork) are ready to go and the nursing vaccination units have been set up in CUH and they've been told to wait.

Marhay70

ACitizenErased wrote: »

My father said that the reason it isn't starting until next week is because management are on Christmas holidays.

Whether it's a wind up or not, that's exactly the perception that will be taken by a large percentage of the population. I can't believe MM is so stupid as to think that he'll still have a party to lead after the next GE if they fcuk this up. Nobody will blame Varadkar, he has wisely melted into the shadows to watch FF take all the blame, slimy little creep.

Gael23

ACitizenErased wrote: »

My father said that the reason it isn't starting until next week is because management are on Christmas holidays.

Wouldn’t put anything past the HSE

lbj666

Marhay70 wrote: »

Whether it's a wind up or not, that's exactly the perception that will be taken by a large percentage of the population. I can't believe MM is so stupid as to think that he'll still have a party to lead after the next GE if they fcuk this up. Nobody will blame Varadkar, he has wisely melted into the shadows to watch FF take all the blame, slimy little creep.

This will the reason for an election if it's mismanaged

namloc1980

lbj666 wrote: »

It doesn't look great but they easily catch up with the rate of delivery, I'm more disappointed that nursing homes have to wait another 3 weeks.
Depends on the first 40000 batch but I presume that's first week in January. We d all prefer to see freezers emptied as quick as they are filled, insted of them lieing there.

I fear a scandal in the New Year as thousands of vials of vaccine sit idle in some refrigerated warehouse while the HSE makes excuse after excuse about why the rollout is taking forever. It'll turn out massive rent for the vaccine warehousing is being paid to some FF loyalist.

Polar101

namloc1980 wrote: »

The initial excuses for the slow rollout was that we are an island and things take time. Turns out Malta and Cyprus are starting tomorrow.

This 4 days of waiting to start just reinforces the perception of laziness and inefficiency in the public services.

Finland got their first batch today, and they'll start vaccinating tomorrow (Sunday). There the discussion was "why are we waiting till Sunday?".

namloc1980

Germany started this afternoon after getting its allocation this morning. Their attitude is every day counts. Ours is, ah sure the lads are on holidays, let's wait 4 days.

Away With The Fairies

namloc1980 wrote: »

Germany started this afternoon after getting its allocation this morning. Their attitude is every day counts. Ours is, ah sure the lads are on holidays, let's wait 4 days.

Not one bit surprised

whisky_galore

namloc1980 wrote: »

Germany started this afternoon after getting its allocation this morning. Their attitude is every day counts. Ours is, ah sure the lads are on holidays, let's wait 4 days.

Every day's delay are potentially lives that might have been saved. Pathetic.

Clonmel1000

whisky_galore wrote: »

Every day's delay are potentially lives that might have been saved. Pathetic.

And another day of restrictions job losses and masks.

Micky 32

The 2 nursing homes Longford town are going to be done on 25th January and the 28th January.

beggars_bush

I'd rather they wait a few days and do it properly.

Hse staff are entitled to a bit of time off too.

namloc1980

beggars_bush wrote: »

I'd rather they wait a few days and do it properly.

Hse staff are entitled to a bit of time off too.

Germany started today. What do you mean wait to do it properly?? That makes no sense.

beggars_bush

namloc1980 wrote: »

Germany started today. What do you mean wait to do it properly?? That makes no sense.

If the staff needed are on holidays, you cannot do much.