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Taoiseach shocked and dismayed at Sinn Fein TDs tweet on IRA attacks

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    #302
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    ^That is scary & unforgivable^

    The murder of Lord Mountbatten was carried out in this State and the soldiers were murdered in Northern Ireland (UK) as recognised by international law.

    Nobody here has justified the killing of Mountbatten or the children. That is one of the many IRA activities I and many others find utterly morally reprehensible. Mountbatten himself was an absolute scumbag of the British Army but there is no excuse for the manner in which he was targeted, which involved civilians and children at that. Nobody here has justified it.
    The Provisional IRA were a Terrorist organisation, and as such their actions were illegal, so why would you celebrate their actions? specially with such great loss of life, you obviously have strong IRA sympathies, which says it all.

    The 1916 rising was also illegal. As was everything Republicans did during the War of Independence. As was Dev declaring a Republic and leaving the Commonwealth. As were the civil rights marches in Derry which results in the police engaging in extreme violence and gave birth to the entire Troubles conflict.

    Many things which are illegal under civilian law happen during a time of war. That has no bearing on their morality.
    Stanley should have sent out a full apology to the families of the children murdered that day, plus the family of the Nanny? I guess he'd never apologise to the Mountbatten family.

    He wasn't talking about Mountbatten. The tweet was about an attack on the British Army.
    It's like some people on this forum don't understand what murder or terrorism is, very sad altogether, but isn't it great that you can say anything you like in the form of terrorist glorification (and get away with it).

    You just sit back there and wallow in the celebration of their murders...

    Again, who is celebrating the murder of Mountbatten or his family? The tweets were sent in relation to a different attack which exclusively targeted actively serving soldiers.


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    #303
    expectationlost
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    he deleted his account https://twitter.com/BrianStanleyTD/ and FB


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    #304
    rdwight
    Registered Users Posts: 527 ✭✭✭rdwight


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Prove what? That you ignore fat shaming of a specific female politician? The 'principled caller outer' should be able to link us to a post of his on the many SF threads where it routinely happens showing him calling it out in a principled way.

    Perhaps you can point out other instances where one member of the Oireachtas went out of their way to reference the sexual life of another member.


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    #305
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 66,900 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    rdwight wrote: »
    Perhaps you can point out other instances where one member of the Oireachtas went out of their way to reference the sexual life of another member.

    I am not aware of any. I could show you a tweet where a member says Yippee we have rights for gays but what we need now is workers rights.
    Written by somebody who is in a party that campaigned for those rights as he did himself while other members of the Oireachtas denied those rights until it was politically advantageous not to oppose them anymore.


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    #306
    golfball37
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    expectationlost wrote: »
    he deleted his account https://twitter.com/BrianStanleyTD/ and FB

    Belfast has spoken I’d say


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    #307
    rdwight
    Registered Users Posts: 527 ✭✭✭rdwight


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    I am not aware of any. I could show you a tweet where a member says Yippee we have rights for gays but what we need now is workers rights.
    Written by somebody who is in a party that campaigned for those rights as he did himself while other members of the Oireachtas denied those rights until it was politically advantageous not to oppose them anymore.

    You think the phrase "yippee for D tory" is a celebration of either Leo's election or a gay rights referendum from two years previously?

    God love you.

    Stop digging Francie.


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    #308
    Jinglejangle69
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    I am not aware of any. I could show you a tweet where a member says Yippee we have rights for gays but what we need now is workers rights.
    Written by somebody who is in a party that campaigned for those rights as he did himself while other members of the Oireachtas denied d those rights until it was politically advantageous not to oppose them anymore.

    Jesus there is no end to it.


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    #309
    FrancieBrady
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    rdwight wrote: »
    You think the phrase "yippee for D tory" is a celebration of either Leo's election or a gay rights referendum from two years previously?

    God love you.

    Stop digging Francie.

    He is calling Leo a Tory as many have.


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    #310
    rdwight
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    He is calling Leo a Tory as many have.

    Thanks. But we all got that bit at first sight of the tweet.


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    #311
    Solutionking
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    KarlMarks wrote: »
    I'm a proud Irish Republican. Why would I want to apologise for the actions of the IRA (even though I sided more with the actions of another republican grouping and am a reluctant SF voter)? The British Army are a foreign army on this island and the PIRA carried out a succcesful action that struck right at the heart of the enemy. That is to be celebrated. Its you Free Staters who like to pick and choose which bits of history you celebrate who are the ones having to jump through hoops.


    You are a laugh a minute. Please keep it coming


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    #312
    walshb
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    batman75 wrote: »
    Curious as to what you define as successful. The IRA failed in the ultimate objective which was to remove British governance from the island.

    Their ultimate goal was to remove British control of the North..

    They may not have achieved that, but they did achieve peace up North. They did win back the rights and dignities of the oppressed up North. They did make the oppressor take notice and relent and ease back on their pressing of oppression..

    They had “wins.” Wins that many people may not fully see, understand or appreciate..But many people do understand and see and appreciate..

    There is no place for the IRA now or recently. Their job is done, over.

    Desperate that any people had to die, but the IRA (humans/people) did what they felt they absolutely had to do at the time under the circumstances..

    I would never fault them for that!


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    #313
    blanch152
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    Bowie wrote: »
    I'm sure you do. People lying to use the subjects of racism and homophobia to further an agenda disrespects and belittles genuine critics.

    Look let’s be clear on this.

    I don’t buy the “I’m not a racist but I was just pointing out that Leo was called the Indian by a Loyalist” excuse that you have been putting out. Saying it once last February might have been accidental, but repeating it is deliberate. If that is what you mean by an agenda, I make no apology.

    You can fool others, but I don’t buy it. However, I accept that the mods have let it go, but I expect it won’t be long until the mask slips again.

    I also think Sinn Fein are a huge threat to our democracy akin to Trump and his ilk. Again, no apologies for that if that’s what you mean by an agenda.

    So instead of snide remarks to me about an agenda, just accept you won’t change my mind on those two issues. If you are talking about some other agenda, that is just a figment of your imagination. You might spell it out to give me a laugh.


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    #314
    JasonStatham
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    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    Deep man :rolleyes:

    It's said that people inherently dislike the people that they're most similar to. Judging by all your posts on here about Stanley, you're quite like him.


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    #315
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    walshb wrote: »
    Their ultimate goal was to remove British control of the North..

    They may not have achieved that, but they did achieve peace up North. They did win back the rights and dignities of the oppressed up North. They did make the oppressor take notice and relent and ease back on their pressing of oppression..

    They had “wins.” Wins that many people may not fully see, understand or appreciate..But many people do understand and see and appreciate..

    There is no place for the IRA now or recently. Their job is done, over.

    Desperate that any people had to die, but the IRA (humans/people) did what they felt they absolutely had to do at the time under the circumstances..

    I would never fault them for that!

    What about the horses though!! ?

    Surely they didn't deserve that:)


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    #316
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,194 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    walshb wrote: »
    Their ultimate goal was to remove British control of the North..

    They may not have achieved that, but they did achieve peace up North. They did win back the rights and dignities of the oppressed up North. They did make the oppressor take notice and relent and ease back on their pressing of oppression..

    They had “wins.” Wins that many people may not fully see, understand or appreciate..But many people do understand and see and appreciate..

    There is no place for the IRA now or recently. Their job is done, over.

    Desperate that any people had to die, but the IRA (humans/people) did what they felt they absolutely had to do at the time under the circumstances..

    I would never fault them for that!

    They achieved peace by stopping killing people, just like the man who stopped beating his wife achieved a peaceful marriage.

    All of the rest was on offer in Sunningdale and was achievable by peaceful means. It was delayed not helped by terrorism as the terrorism gave the Brits and unionists an excuse not to implement change.


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    Ireland2020
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 214 ✭✭Ireland2020


    blanch152 wrote: »
    They achieved peace by stopping killing people, just like the man who stopped beating his wife achieved a peaceful marriage.

    All of the rest was on offer in Sunningdale and was achievable by peaceful means. It was delayed not helped by terrorism as the terrorism gave the Brits and unionists an excuse not to implement change.

    SF on the membrane


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    #318
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 66,900 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    They achieved peace by stopping killing people, just like the man who stopped beating his wife achieved a peaceful marriage.

    All of the rest was on offer in Sunningdale and was achievable by peaceful means. It was delayed not helped by terrorism as the terrorism gave the Brits and unionists an excuse not to implement change.

    Sunningdale that Unionists brought down blanch. Hume failed with that one and wouldn't succeed until he took up Alex Reid's offer to talk and then team up with Adams.
    Together, they brought about the GFA, an agreement that those Unionists again tried to scupper at the time of signing and up until recently. Not even the British dared break it either, even though they tried.


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    #319
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,194 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Ireland2020 wrote: »
    SF on the membrane

    It is pretty much the John Hume/Seamus Mallon take on events so more like SDLP on the brain.


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    #320
    Ireland2020
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 214 ✭✭Ireland2020


    blanch152 wrote: »
    It is pretty much the John Hume/Seamus Mallon take on events so more like SDLP on the brain.

    Highest Polling with Red C EVER

    Best Election is decades

    Alls going good


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    #321
    FrancieBrady
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    blanch152 wrote: »
    It is pretty much the John Hume/Seamus Mallon take on events so more like SDLP on the brain.

    Seamus that along with Eddie McGrady and others that forced Hume to go on a solo run blanch.


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    #322
    Cluedo Monopoly
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    walshb wrote: »
    Their ultimate goal was to remove British control of the North..

    They may not have achieved that, but they did achieve peace up North. They did win back the rights and dignities of the oppressed up North. They did make the oppressor take notice and relent and ease back on their pressing of oppression..

    They had “wins.” Wins that many people may not fully see, understand or appreciate..But many people do understand and see and appreciate..

    There is no place for the IRA now or recently. Their job is done, over.

    Desperate that any people had to die, but the IRA (humans/people) did what they felt they absolutely had to do at the time under the circumstances..

    I would never fault them for that!

    This post is all over the shop. You're no Tim Pat Coogan.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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    #323
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Ireland2020 wrote: »
    Highest Polling with Red C EVER

    Best Election is decades

    Alls going good

    How's that United Ireland objective working out?

    Seems the kingdom is more united than ever:)


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    #324
    Nobotty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 788 ✭✭✭Nobotty


    Ireland2020 wrote: »
    Highest Polling with Red C EVER

    Best Election is decades

    Alls going good

    They'll certainly top the poll in Dundalk anyway;)


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    #325
    Floppybits
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    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    How's that United Ireland objective working out?

    Seems the kingdom is more united than ever:)

    Really scraping the bottom of the barrel with that one. Of course the person waffling about his principals likes it. Shows where his principals really are.


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    #326
    smurgen
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    Floppybits wrote: »
    Really scraping the bottom of the barrel with that one. Of course the person waffling about his principals likes it. Shows where his principals really are.

    Interesting post and like. Loyalist mask slips :D


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    #327
    Fuascailteoir
    Registered Users Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    How's that United Ireland objective working out?

    Seems the kingdom is more united than ever:)

    Strange timing to be beating the drum for a united kingdom as the wheels are well and truly falling off the clown car. A complete and utter laughing stock over the last number of years and the 'negotiations' over the border show what a weak and feeble position the British are now in. Dictated to by virtually every country on the continent and have to grin and bear it.


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    #328
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    blanch152 wrote: »
    They achieved peace by stopping killing people, just like the man who stopped beating his wife achieved a peaceful marriage.

    What part of "The RUC and British Army started this conflict, not the IRA" is lost on you? You claim to know about how the Troubles started and yet you continue to deny that the IRA was a reaction to something.


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    #329
    Ireland2020
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 214 ✭✭Ireland2020


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    How's that United Ireland objective working out?

    Seems the kingdom is more united than ever:)

    The Kingdom that's gonna fall apart once the Scots make a move

    Yes it's united as ever


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    #330
    UDAWINNER
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    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    How's that United Ireland objective working out?

    Seems the kingdom is more united than ever:)
    someone should tell scotland that:)


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    #331
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,133 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    JasonStatham wrote: »
    It's said that people inherently dislike the people that they're most similar to. Judging by all your posts on here about Stanley, you're quite like him.

    No, I'm not similar to Stanley or his violent Republican sympathies, I'm quite the opposite.
    I despise Loyalist sympathisers too as it happens. True for some reason I feel the need to criticise Stanley's tweets and his supporters on here, not sure that makes me "quite like him" though.

    What happens quite a lot nowadays is that a Sinn Fein person puts up a 'dog whistle' tweet, deletes it ASAP (so as to get off the hook), the deleted tweet us then rightly condemned by all & sundry, but then the waves of Sinn Fein/IRA support sweeps across social media, then foolishly people like myself get sucked into the abyss and end up having arguments with IRA sympathisers about good bombs & bad bombs, good murders & wrong ones (me suggesting they're all bad). Hope that doesn't make me like him as you suggest.

    He's deleted his Twitter account anyway (probably forced to do so).


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