Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

wotzgoingon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882210#Comment_117882210

Which model 3 do you have? Tight bastards, you'd think they would just upgrade that for free if they seen they can get more performance out of a update.

innrain

Cheers. It appers on my app as well. It says improves 0-100km/h from 4.4s to 3.9s. I'd say pass for the moment. I've yet made the case for the enhanced autopilot.

AndyBoBandy

It’s an upgrade for the LR only….. has been there for a good while now, just only recently appeared on the app for Irish owners…. Previously you had to contact them to get it added.

makes sense to just get the LR now with acceleration boost and have P like performance for a few grand less….

arestifamiliar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117882311#Comment_117882311

I’ll probably go for it… maybe ….

I got FSD, not really worth the money tbh, but hanging on the forever promise of it doing great things. If it would initiate overtaking I might feel it’s worth something , it did initiate a lane change to exit the motorway unexpectedly which was a bit scary

innrain

I'm more of a normal user who would not really appreciate the 0.5s difference anyway. But it is good to know one can have the option should they really need it. I'd be interested in enhanced autopilot to do lane changes on motorway. I got quite used with autopilot on lung runs and even on M50 but unfortunately lot of drivers on 85-95 km/h on middle lane with no real reason. (most cars over reporting the speed but still) If I overtake, autopilot disengage which is a bit annoying. The rest like summon would be just for fun.

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117883513#Comment_117883513

Only Autosteer disengages for me when I indicate to overtake.... AutoPilot remains on at my set speed, and once in the new lane, a quick double tap brings back Autosteer.

€3,800 to not have to do that seems like a tad excessive for me!

innrain

Autosteer you're right. The speed control remains but is still annoying. It is expensive alright but so is 3.7k for a promise that the car would stop someday at traffic lights. This is the reason I don't have it I can't reason myself to buy it.

rocky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117878751#Comment_117878751

Got reply

Trade-in estimate*

€ 55,040

Good to know no depreciation in the last year 😀

rocky

In the Galway Lawn Tennis Club today, 4 Model 3s, 3 M3Ps (2 facelift), 1 long range, 3 grey/black, 1 white (mine)

Anyone on here?

wassie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117883679#Comment_117883679

Monthly subscriptions for EAP & FSD have been available in the US for $99 & $199 per month respectively since July. May be a while before we see it released as an option here as obviously it would need to account for local conditions.

arestifamiliar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117883679#Comment_117883679

It does stop at red lights, but stops at green ones too, not sure if that’s AP or FSD.

if they told me FSD would never do more than it does now, I’d probably ask for money back, but there is always the promise of ‘coming soon’

the overtake is good and hopefully one day you won’t have to initiate the manoeuvre in Europe, it does initiate and turn for motorway exits , which is a tease.

I think I’m more interested in vision only self park, if it’s any better

innrain

Got the update on the android app this morning. 4.02.657. On the upgrades page there is a new tab for subscriptions but only premium connectivity available. 9.99/month

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117893280#Comment_117893280

EAP/FSD drive subscriptions are not yet available on this side of the pond, but hopefully soon...

I'll give it a try for a month that I'll have a few trips planned, to see how it works...

josip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117827735#Comment_117827735

Did you have any problems locating/using the non SuC chargers ?

We do 10,000 (diesel) kms over the summer and being able to use the same charging network throughout (eg. Tesla, Ionity) would save a lot of pain.

What was the longest you drove in any one day and did you have to factor in the charger locations into your plan for that day?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117895512#Comment_117895512

One pair of chargers on one location in France was out but as that site had another 10 working chargers that was not a problem. We did not need to queue at all. The longest single trip was just under 1000 km and it took about 12 hours including the charges. No extra planning was ever needed: Just entered the destination and the car automatically routes you via enough SuCs and tells you how long you need to charge for.

If your destination doesn't have a charger, the only planning you will need is to charge a bit extra on the last charger to ensure you'll make it to the next charger the following morning. The car plans to arrive to your destination with about 10% of battery left, which is ideal if you can charge overnight but not otherwise.

mfceiling

App updated overnight.

Looks good now and starts up way faster than before.

MightyMunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117895512#Comment_117895512

Have a look at https://abetterrouteplanner.com/

you can put in the car type, weather etc and will give you a good idea of how a trip you might do would work out.

josip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117897885#Comment_117897885

Thanks, that definitely would save a lot of advance planning. I've got 3 more questions :)

On a typical 3158km part of our trip, there are mainly Ionity or Total Energies. However there are 5 or 6 other stops with different Charging operators. Can you now roll up and pay with a credit card on the spot with all/some/many Charging Operators or do you need to register and have a card delivered to you in advance? Do Charging Operators support pay as you go, or do they require a subscription?

The website has us arriving at some of the stops on that route with 10% charge remaining. For someone who gets European range anxiety under 100km, this will take a bit of getting used to. The operational state for a couple of those stops is unknown in the app. Maybe it's because of how bad the Irish charging network was/is, I'd be worried about that stop being non-operational when I got there and not being in range of an alternative. Not much of an issue for most of Western Europe but once you hit Croatia he distances between charging stations increase.

The cost for the 3138km is coming out as €325 and I'm guessing that with a roof box it would be around €400. Our diesel costs for that are €280. I didn't expect an EV to cost less, nor did I expect it to cost more. Is the on-route profit margin for electrons much higher than the margin on hydrocarbons ?

Apologies for posting this in the Tesla thread, mods please move if appropriate. But this thread is the first place I've seen an EVer reporting a decent trip across multiple European countries. And my suspicion was that the reliability and convenience of the SuC network is a factor in that.

Most of the "other" networks have a sticker on the side of the charger that will tell you which app will work with them. There are also 3rd party tags/apps like maingau, plugsurfing etc. which may work. You may end up spending 15 minutes at the charger for an alien network charging to start as not only you need the app but also add a payment method. IMO, based on my trips Tesla is the way to go if possible and available in the country where you are travelling in.

MightyMunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117898468#Comment_117898468

Just on the 10% charge left, you can change that to whatever number you want for all stops or also for individual stops e.g. if it's a non Tesla charger you can leave it higher. You can select to charge for longer at 1 point eg for lunch, dinner etc...and it will recalculate the rest of the route.

jusmeig

Jospi => Curious to how u have you calculated that cost? Seems high to me, but id only know IRL as reference price, say Ionity at the eye watering 0.79 cent per kWh

Are you in an SR+ or the LR?

innrain

The price is probably calculated using Ionity .70+ /kWh. It is worth getting a subscription package to lower the kWh price. If you do that in Tesla is half or less. You can configure ABRP to avoid some chargers. You can also add a ski box in the settings of ABRP (I bet it will eat more energy than you think). If 10% is to stressful for you you can configure to arrive @charging stops with 15% I did a mock-up trip Dublin Zagreb and it calculates 10 stops for charging 2h51min using only Tesla SuC. If I change the car to a Kona is still 10 charges but 5h21min without counting the time lost in finding the right app making sure the chargers works

jusmeig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117899869#Comment_117899869

Ya but even at Irish prices it might be around €250 for that distance, bit more maybe. I guess if you are driving at 140km the game changes quite a bit :D

josip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117899805#Comment_117899805

The cost was given by ABetterRoutePlanner, I'd configured it with an 80kw Enyaq, probably had it at 140kph in settings.

When I set it to 125kph which is what we normally do with the roofbox, it's £32 + €259

SR+, LR or another, that's the decision for the future :)

jusmeig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117899926#Comment_117899926

Ah, you are currently driving the Enyaq?

Yeah I would wager ABRP is probably more accurate than my math...

If you want your eyeballs to fly out of your head at every junction, get a Tesla....great fun.

Jog501

I can't share the link but Gowan Motors have a 2020 SR+ up on carzone with 6k kms on the clock for a bargain price of.. €56,750

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117900000#Comment_117900000

It must have FSD for that price!!

Jog501

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117900044#Comment_117900044

I doubt it TBH,no mention of it either. I think the Dealer just saw the long range models price range on Carzone and chanced his arm. If someone pays that much for a SR+ they would want their head examined!

innrain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117900044#Comment_117900044

No FSD but It has glass roof and central door locking :D

Jog501

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117900119#Comment_117900119

I called them, it's a sr+ with no FSD. He is convinced they are €58k new, whoever sold him that car made the deal of the century 😂