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Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 arestifamiliar


    Anyone know why no Disney+ arrived with last update ? All other features appear to have arrived like car wash mode etc


    and anyone know which windscreen company’s have replaced an M3 windscreen (cracked yesterday), rang two and they don’t think they have and have to call me back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭Kramer


    Auto Emergency Braking can't be turned off. It's actually mandatory these days - an €U requirement.

    My BMW 530e once emergency braked & came to a complete stop. In fairness, I know what triggered it & it only happened once in 2 years of ownership/40k+ km.

    The Model 3 once emergency braked on me on a 120km/h stretch, due to a shadow cast from an overpass. Absolutely nothing approaching me on a clear, sunny day. The driver behind me had to brake in sympathy & afterwards flashed his headlights at me & gesticulated angrily before passing me aggressively.

    I can't say I blame him.

    I won't be surprised to hear some day, of a crash resulting from these very safety systems, themselves designed to prevent crashes.

    Also, to be fair, the Model 3 seems to have improved in the phantom braking department recently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    I don't have a Tesla but I have a new car with that emergency braking and one day it just braked itself, scared the s**t out of me, needless to say I turned that off as if someone was behind me they would have drove straight into the back of me. It was a severe braking stopped in what seemed like nothing and I flew forward and seat belt tensioned. Madness. But I remember another time I had cruise control on and someone coming towards me came a bit into my lane it turned cruise control off and braked a bit. So it worked fine there but that emergency braking that I doubt the person behind me would be able to match was really severe and dangerous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,256 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I agree it’s not nice when the car emergency brakes itself…..


    but if someone crashes into the back of you, or almost crashes into the back of you, it’s not because of auto emergency braking, it’s because they were following too close behind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭Kramer


    Not much use if you're injured, or worse, saying the driver behind was "too close"!

    I've seen cases where drivers suddenly braked & subsequently, were hit from behind, have been found both criminally & civilly liable.

    Would one pass a driving test if one suddenly jammed on the brakes, without warning & for no reason? No. Yet we seem happy to have our cars do exactly that?

    Say one's car does suddenly slam on the brakes, causes a collision etc. Would the driver be liable, even though they themselves didn't apply the brakes?



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  • Posts: 1,123 [Deleted User]


    We were back to Ireland yesterday after just over 9k on various European roads over 5 weeks. We have now over 12k on the clock on the car registered late June... The car performed flawlessly apart from both rear lamps suffering from condensation after some downpours. The interior also still continues to suffer from various rattles but they haven't gotten any worse at least. I fixed one annoying one at the rear door myself when on the road. I think we got 2 or 3 new software updates since leaving Ireland and I think the automatic wipers have gotten much better since June but not sure what else has changed. We didn't need to queue on a single Tesla SC since beginning of the trip and it cost us total of €280 for the supercharging (€239 and 436 SEK) + estimated 150 for other charging when SuC were not present. This was with 1100 or so of free SuC kilometres left on our account when leaving.

    The Model 3 is like a go-kart on mountain roads with absolutely no drama and lorries etc. are dispatched with no hardship at all with just a tip on the go faster pedal. The handling and grip levels were just astounding. The MIC LR can do around 300 km between charges when driven at indicated 135 km/h in France. The range on Autobahn is about the same as there is way more traffic and roadworks than in paid motorways of France so the average speed is similar even with many unlimited stretches. The highest speed we hit was 208 km/h but that was very momentary. The cruise control works up to 150 km/h so it's more comfortable to cruise at up to that speed even when there is no traffic, and those times are far and between in August.

    It would be great if Tesla upgraded the car software to allow changing the headlamp focus between left and right hand traffic on the blocky 2021 headlamps. But this is the only thing I would change. Perhaps the suspension could be a tad more refined also but on the flip side nothing fazes the car regardless the road conditions and loading. Ample boot space and comfort and power makes this a one fine GT for two.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,903 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Good stuff, I had a Scottish roadtrip earlier in the month and the SuC was flawless too, no stress or worry about foreign cards or chargers, just rock up to a SuC and plug in, easy peasy

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,218 ✭✭✭wassie


    Did you get banned a few times from using Autopilot until the next drive for exceeding 150kph? 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,256 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Surely though the car would know it’s on an autobahn and there was no limit……



  • Posts: 1,123 [Deleted User]


    Ha, it's not like with the autopilot and not keeping hands on the wheel. As of the autopilot itself, you make me realise that I don't actually know how it does work on the 'bahn. Wonder what speed it would select on the unrestricted stretches? The only time I used it was on some smaller roads in Sweden/Finland where it worked fine apart from a special feature on some roads where the driving lane widens and then suddenly narrows back. I can't post a link to the layout as I have no link posting superpowers yet.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 LuigiSham


    Big fan of this thread. Thanks for all the good info.

    I am so close to buying a model 3. I am gutted to have missed out on the grant before July. I am stuck in 2 minds. I originally hoped to get the Long range. I live in Athlone and looking at the SUC map, there is none really around me, or on the roads I would drive.

    The majority of my driving is locally, but every 2 weeks I would drive to Dublin, do a road trip around there and head back the same day. (Approx 260ks, majority of the trip driving 120k/hr).

    I know the SR+ would be perfect for 90% of my time. For the other 10%, I would love to avoid sitting at a charger - 2 kids under 4.

    Because of the loss of the grant, the difference is 17k….Should I jump on the SR or go for the LR?

    Also, I see that Enfield is due a SUC in Q4 2021…Do these get built on time usually?

    Any advice would be great.

    Thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,256 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    100% go for the SR+


    ive been all over the country in mine and it’s really not a bother as long as you can home charge….

    there will only ever be more superchargers installed, and kids LOVE the entertainment in the car while charging.


    if you do order one, use a referral code to get 1,500 free supercharger km’s..

    here’s mine;

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,903 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I’m in Athlone too and my S is similar range to the 3SR+, I’d agree on the Enfield SuC, that will open up Dublin for us.

    There’s an eCars 150kW charger behind Kilmartins and 4 Ionity high power charges at the Services halfway to Moate which will charge a 3 extremely quickly, but all of these are on our doorstep which is a bit of a shame.

    SuC construction can be slow, often multiple years but Tesla have been very aggressive in their UK rollout this past year or so and we had Cork added recently quite quickly. With a new Belfast service centre I’m hopeful that will drive some of the planned SuC installs and that we may see a number of them all at once.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭woodseb


    with kids at that age you'll be stopping anyway after 2 hours driving for another few years yet. I took an SR+ across Ireland a few times over the summer and never felt i could drive longer than the attention span and bladder capacity of those in the back. Athlone seems and ideal base too with the new SUCs coming on line



  • Posts: 1,123 [Deleted User]


    Based on the Teslabjorn's review of the LFP SR+ it's a total winner and the fact that is both charges quickly and that you can charge to 100% all the time makes it a very good proposition for Ireland compared to the MIC LR the price difference considered. The jury is still out on the cold weather performance but as Ireland doesn't really have proper cold weather even this is likely not a thing to worry about.

    Another vote for SR+ from this MIC LR owner: I would go for the SR+ if I was ordering now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 LuigiSham


    Thanks for all the solid advice.

    I will go for the SR+. If I wanted to order one for January, when would be the best time to put an order in?

    I hear there are currently delays for the model 3. It says on the website, if I ordered today, to expect delivery in November.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭Sam W


    You should always order at the earliest point. Once you ordered, you can always reject the delivery if you want to get it later. There’s always a chance that the government removes or adds certain grants at a particular point, so if you order early, you may be able to accept a delivery early if a grant is about to be removed.



  • Posts: 1,123 [Deleted User]


    Tesla up to now at least delivers the cars to Ireland once a quarter and they really push for registrations at the end of the quarter to help their quarterly stats. Our car for example got delivered towards the end of June and the US-based Tesla employee dealing with the fulfilment point blank declined a suggestion to delay the registration until 1st of July. Most likely the November batch of cars will be delivered by.end the December to boost the quarterly results and the next batch of cars will then arrive in Feb/March.

    If the 212/221 issue is important to you, expect to wait for a bit (until Feb/March).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭reni10


    So even if the car is delivered in Dec they won't hold it for a few more days to get the registration on a new plate?

    That is fairly bad if that is the case as you are wiping a good few bob off the resale value by not waiting those few days.


    How reliable have the delivery dates been as well?

    So if it says November will it actually come in November or is that just a very bad guess by Tesla?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,256 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    a 212 or a 221 reg will make little to no difference to the resale value of a Model 3 for the foreseeable future..


    Model 3's (All Tesla's in fact) are holding their values extremely well lately, to the point where there was one for sale a while back asking for more that what it was bought for from Tesla!! now whether it sold at that price is an unknown, but a car you can drive away the same day, or one you have to wait 2-3-4 months for.... you can see why someone would put it in at that price!! The demand is still there for them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    Got my renewal quote of €1015 from Aviva. Some chance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭Kramer


    Any 22 reg car will invariably be more desirable/be worth more than a 21 reg. We're reg snobs here you know!

    You'd want your head examined accepting a car in December.

    Tesla, for whatever reason, front-loaded EVERY Model 3 registration into June this year. Very strange. 198 registrations in June, 0 in July. OK, not as much difference between mid year reg changes (I'd still want a 212 reg in July), but they didn't do this last year. Our Model 3 is a 202, registered in the first days of July.

    I hope they don't insist all December cars this year remain as 21 regs!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭Kramer


    I reckon the new SR+ would be suitable for most these days given the great range & now, no issues regularly charging to 100%. There are more chargers these days too & unless you have a particular need for the long range, i.e. very regular long motorway commutes, frequent travel overseas or just want more performance, given the LR went up €5k with the removal of the SEAI grant, the SR+ is the better proposition.

    Best of luck - you'll be happy in either!

    If anyone needs another referral, or wants to buy my Model 3 (so I can buy an LR), PM me 🤗.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭decp


    Any way of turning off place names in butchered Irish?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty



    They will want them registered before end of the year. It's so they are counted in q4 for the sales numbers.

    At least at the moment the 201 , 202 , 211 , 212 , 221 ,222 isn't as obvious at a glace as other years will be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭Kramer


    They didn't last year though. 0 Model 3s were registered from September through December 2020. Same midyear. June, 7 were registered, July, they registered 45 (inc. ours).

    June 2021 they registered 198, July 0.

    Surely they register "sales" for their quarterly figures - not registrations. All early July cars would have been paid for in June - end of Q2.

    It's really strange they shifted 100% of Model 3 registrations deliberately into June. They've arguably devalued those 198 cars IMO & they could well have close to 0 sales in Q4 here if they repeat what they did last year.

    I dunno, maybe Elon has more brains than me!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty



    I have a December 2020 Model 3 sitting at my front door. And there was a queue of deliveries the day I collected in early December.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭Kramer


    That's me proved wrong so!

    Looking at beepbeep.ie, there seem to be no figures for Model 3s registered from September to December 2020, which I mistakenly took to mean zero. They obviously did register cars, including yours, so wonder why beepbeep don't have that info.

    From there onwards though, there are figures & they definitely have changed in their pattern of registration.

    Did you want to take the December car for a 202 reg or would you have waited the extra week or two to have a 211 reg? I'd always wait in that case but it looks like Tesla are focused on their quarterly stats more than customer preferences.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,256 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I don't think there's many other countries that do registrations in the same or similar format to us though is there? I know the U.K. have the year on theres, but that's the 'registration year' and not the calendar year isn't it?

    We are an insignificance in the eyes of Tesla. Its always about the Q/H/TY sales for a large company like them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,231 ✭✭✭Kramer


    I wouldn't agree we're that insignificant if they absolutely, 100% insisted every Model 3 they had in June HAD to be registered before 1st July. 198 cars vs 0 in July. That's quite a shift from last year.

    A car registered in December will inevitably be worth thousands less than the same car registered two weeks later. Zero benefit to the customer, just good for Tesla & their quarterly delivery stats.

    I guess prospective customers should order in January to guarantee the new year reg plate, while every other manufacturer takes orders from September onwards, for January reg.

    Loads of Model 3s arriving into Sandyford now for the new owners......soon........best of luck to all & well wear!



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