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FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

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    #8822
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Finty Lemon wrote: »
    No comparison between foot and mouth and Covid.
    A moronic notion

    You raised it.
    Finty Lemon wrote: »
    We shot the cattle in 2001 to prevent movement. Is that the way forward?


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    #8823
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Great news to have the positivity rate getting under 4% for the first time in 2021. Had been as high as 24% in early January.

    The more we vaccinate vulnerable groups, the higher case load we can manage also, given the chance of a case leading to hospitalisation will be gradually decreasing throughout the vaccine process.

    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1365691166881177602?s=19


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    #8824
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Rowing with the pharmacists now
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40234616.html


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    #8825
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,160 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Great news to have the positivity rate getting under 4% for the first time in 2021. Had been as high as 24% in early January.

    The more we vaccinate vulnerable groups, the higher case load we can manage also, given the chance of a case leading to hospitalisation will be gradually decreasing throughout the vaccine process.

    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1365691166881177602?s=19

    'Expected' news you mean, we've been in a long lockdown, which does that. We would be much further along had the government not ignored advice when we were here before.


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    #8826
    Bannasidhe
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Bishop of hope wrote: »
    LOL, then who is it up to?

    Ok.
    You believe it is up to the leaders of the two main parties to decide who is fit to govern in what has for decades been a de-facto two party State regardless of who the electorate votes for.
    There is a term for that - democracy is not the term.


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    #8827
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    'Expected' news you mean, we've been in a long lockdown, which does that. We would be much further along had the government not ignored advice when we were here before.

    Not everything needs to be spun negatively. It's positive news for where we are at now.

    The government made a mistake in December by pandering to what the public wanted, rather than what they needed, and made a poor decision as a result (although I think things wouldn't have been anywhere near as bad if people had stuck to the restrictions in place, particularly around household mixing, rather than visiting restaurants with friends and all that went on - topic for another time).

    They appear to have thankfully learned from that mistake and making sure this thing is crushed in the community while we get vaccines out this time around.


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    #8828
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,160 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Not everything needs to be spun negatively. It's positive news for where we are at now.

    The government made a mistake in December by pandering to what the public wanted, rather than what they needed, and made a poor decision as a result (although I think things wouldn't have been anywhere near as bad if people had stuck to the restrictions in place, particularly around household mixing, rather than visiting restaurants with friends and all that went on - topic for another time).

    They appear to have thankfully learned from that mistake and making sure this thing is crushed in the community while we get vaccines out this time around.

    Don't disrespect the sacrifices made by the public (some with their lives) by coming on a government thread trying to make the government look ;great' please. Thank you.


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    #8829
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Don't disrespect the sacrifices made by the public (some with their lives) by coming on a government thread trying to make the government look ;great' please. Thank you.

    They have to own their own sh1t, blaming everyone else for the poor decisions of Government,


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    #8830
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Don't disrespect the sacrifices made by the public (some with their lives) by coming on a government thread trying to make the government look ;great' please. Thank you.

    Where did I do that Francie? No need for lies to attempt to tar other posters you have a dislike for, not a very honest debate technique.


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    #8831
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Not everything needs to be spun negatively. It's positive news for where we are at now.

    The government made a mistake in December by pandering to what the public wanted, rather than what they needed, and made a poor decision as a result(although I think things wouldn't have been anywhere near as bad if people had stuck to the restrictions in place, particularly around household mixing, rather than visiting restaurants with friends and all that went on - topic for another time).

    They appear to have thankfully learned from that mistake and making sure this thing is crushed in the community while we get vaccines out this time around.

    So its the publics fault the government ignored NPHET advice, just like the mother and baby homes and the last crash and on and on...
    Complete apologist waffle and spin.
    Its not 'that' mistake, it's their' mistake. If it could be called a mistake. I'd call it incompetence, which they'll no doubt repeat.


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    #8832
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,160 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Where did I do that Francie? No need for lies to attempt to tar other posters you have a dislike for, not a very honest debate technique.

    Sure Bubba, sure.


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    #8833
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    James Brown wrote: »
    So its the publics fault the government ignored NPHET advice, just like the mother and baby homes and the last crash and on and on...
    Complete apologist waffle and spin.
    Its not 'that' mistake, it's their' mistake. If it could be called a mistake. I'd call it incompetence, which they'll no doubt repeat.

    The government caved into public pressure. If there was no appetite for a Christmas reopening in society then the government wouldn't have felt the need to do it. To claim this is some off the wall comment is just weird.

    It is the government's fault, im simply posting about why they ended up making the error.


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    #8834
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,160 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    The government caved into public pressure. If there was no appetite for a Christmas reopening in society then the government wouldn't have felt the need to do it. To claim this is some off the wall comment is just weird.

    It is the government's fault, im simply posting about why they ended up making the error.

    And still you can't help shifting the blame to the people.


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    #8835
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Finty Lemon wrote: »
    No comparison between foot and mouth and Covid.
    A moronic notion

    Ok, let's put aside the fact it was you I was responding to who brought it up for a moment.

    The comparison is still there where Bertie sat at and was heavily involved with the GFA, which the DUP never signed up for, and were always steadfast against it.

    Is this the thread where someone mentioned precedents to things?


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    #8836
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Sure Bubba, sure.

    You always just descend to trying to tar the other poster, rather than having a genuine discussion. I never do the same to you in reverse, maybe take that into consideration.


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    #8837
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    And still you can't help shifting the blame to the people.

    I literally said its the governments fault in the post you quoted Francie. I don't know why you feel the need to lie.


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    #8838
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,160 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    I literally said its the governments fault in the post you quoted Francie. I don't know why you feel the need to lie.

    But you couldn't say it without diluting it to responding to the people.


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    #8839
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    The government caved into public pressure. If there was no appetite for a Christmas reopening in society then the government wouldn't have felt the need to do it. To claim this is some off the wall comment is just weird.

    It is the government's fault, im simply posting about why they ended up making the error.

    It read like the government were cajoled by the public.
    The government decided to go against NPHET regulations in telling the public they could shop, socialise and gather.
    The government carry out policy everyday regardless of popularity or the damage caused.
    They need take ownership once in a while.


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    #8840
    Floppybits
    Registered Users Posts: 7,603 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    James Brown wrote: »
    It read like the government were cajoled by the public.
    The government decided to go against NPHET regulations in telling the public they could shop, socialise and gather.
    The government carry out policy everyday regardless of popularity or the damage caused.
    They need take ownership once in a while.

    Must be a weak government so


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    #8841
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    You'd miss him on the telly all the same.
    :D



    https://twitter.com/vincentbrowne/status/1365654304854577152?s=19


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    #8842
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Must be a weak government so

    And we hear about senior hurling and tough decisions...while the others are called populist :rolleyes:


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    #8843
    Bishop of hope
    Registered Users Posts: 2,927 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Ok.
    You believe it is up to the leaders of the two main parties to decide who is fit to govern in what has for decades been a de-facto two party State regardless of who the electorate votes for.
    There is a term for that - democracy is not the term.

    I never said that either despite your trying to infer something I said that I didn't.
    It's up to the party's to decide, I'm sure most of them decide by parliamentary party meeting.
    They're not all like sinn féin sending out directives from the leadership, whoever that is. perhaps that's why you got mixed up.


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    #8844
    Whatisthisnow
    Site Banned Posts: 301 ✭✭Whatisthisnow


    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1365774327803752450?s=19

    The Sinn Féin threads will be busy this week


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    #8845
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users Posts: 9,008 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Social Democrats on the rise.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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    #8846
    Whatisthisnow
    Site Banned Posts: 301 ✭✭Whatisthisnow


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    Social Democrats on the rise.

    They are plus one, its corrected in his next tweet


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    #8847
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,438 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Whatisthisnow wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1365774327803752450?s=19

    The Sinn Féin threads will be busy this week

    This poll is already out of date given what happened in Dublin City Centre this afternoon.

    The effective cheerleading support from the likes of Holohan for Covid-deniers will not help SF in the longer run.


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    #8848
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    blanch152 wrote: »
    This poll is already out of date given what happened in Dublin City Centre this afternoon.

    The effective cheerleading support from the likes of Holohan for Covid-deniers will not help SF in the longer run.

    Holahan will be gone by Monday, him and Patrick O Donovan can protest till the cows come home then


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    #8849
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,438 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    Holahan will be gone by Monday, him and Patrick O Donovan can protest till the cows come home then

    He survived racism, homophobia and misogyny, which saw him get nominated for mayor.

    A little bit of Covid denial and stoking protests won't stop him.


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    #8850
    Whatisthisnow
    Site Banned Posts: 301 ✭✭Whatisthisnow


    blanch152 wrote: »
    This poll is already out of date given what happened in Dublin City Centre this afternoon.

    The effective cheerleading support from the likes of Holohan for Covid-deniers will not help SF in the longer run.

    Hahaha its ok, have a beer.

    SF had nothing to do with today

    To resort to that is typical


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    #8851
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    blanch152 wrote: »
    He survived racism, homophobia and misogyny, which saw him get nominated for mayor.

    A little bit of Covid denial and stoking protests won't stop him.

    No he didn't. He's an idiot. You think anyone who criticises LV is racist and homophobic. Its like the boy who cried wolf. Takes away from legitimate people speaking up for minorities.


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