Schools closed until February? (part 3)

wirelessdude01

Looks like minimum of 6 cases transmitted at a geography field trip in a Mullingar school. School emphasising that students wore masks and maintained SD on the bus to and from it.

Also emphasising that these field trips have to happen as part of the curriculum for LC geography.

Sonny678

I also know today of a kildare town, where the local GAA club were in the couty final recently. And 10 players were tested with the virus afterwards. And their teenage sisters and brothers have been also being effected from close contact with these players and so now the virus has spread to local secondary chool. Talking to one teacher today she says 4 students in her class have the virus all got from close contact with 10 gaa players who picked it up after county final. There is many many more examples across country we are not hearing of. LEVEL 5 and all schools shut and cancel all GAA need to be done this weekend. If not its absolute madness what is going on.

meeeeh

So according to people here we should open the pubs and close the schools.

Unions are the only reason why it's constantly highlighted that schools are relatively safe. They blackmail at every opportunity. I just spoke to another mother (husband is a doctor so busy hospital affects them more) and her opinion is that if the schools close they won't open for months because of unions.

But if we are really good maybe the pubs will be open for Christmas.

wirelessdude01

meeeeh wrote: »

So according to people here we should open the pubs and close the schools.

Unions are the only reason why it's constantly highlighted that schools are relatively safe. They blackmail at every opportunity. I just spoke to another mother (husband is a doctor so busy hospital affects them more) and her opinion is that if the schools close they won't open for months because of unions.

Source?

Friend of a friend doesn't count.

So who are these people on here who advocated for pubs to reopen and schools to close? If they did then they are idiots.

meeeeh

Open the Pubs wrote: »

Pretty obvious now schools are open as a chilminding facility for parents working from home . Which is why they will remain open under level 5. And yet rural pubs with a handful of customers can't even open at Level 3.

That would be an example...

wirelessdude01

meeeeh wrote: »

That would be an example...

Forum handle seems legit.

Some random rereg from Sept doesn't count. Is that all you have?

You did mention people which implies more than a single post.

You really are a parody poster at this stage.

Even if we took that post at face value they didn't even mention closing schools. They just want pubs open and in my eyes that negates anything they post.

meeeeh

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Forum handle seems legit.

Some random rereg from Sept doesn't count. Is that all you have?

You did mention people which implies more than a single post.

You really are a parody poster at this stage.

Even if we took that post at face value they didn't even mention closing schools. They just want pubs open and in my eyes that negates anything they post.

I think parody is preferable to hysteria and intentional and exaggerated helplessness and self pity.

Queried

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Just dipping in so not sure if similar has been reported elsewhere, but my two kids (both primary) were sent home with all their books (which normally stay in school) just now.......school know something we don't?

Strange. I would say principal could have been taken aback after the announcement earlier and sent them home just in case we have another short notice situation like we did in March (I personally would be absolutely shocked if something like that happened again). In my school the notion of schools shutting wasn't even entertained, we have come to accept that we will likely be in regardless of how things plan out over the next few weeks.

wirelessdude01

meeeeh wrote: »

I think parody is preferable to hysteria and intentional and exaggerated helplessness and self pity.

Where is the hysteria?
Where is the intentional exaggerated helplessness?

Open the Pubs

meeeeh wrote: »

That would be an example...

I never said I wanted schools shut. I'm just pointing out the absurdity of blaming everything but schools. And forcing everyone into full level 5 lockdown while totally ignoring the free for all in schools.

wirelessdude01

Open the Pubs wrote: »

I never said I wanted schools shut. I'm just pointing out the absurdity of blaming everything but schools. And forcing everyone into full level 5 lockdown while totally ignoring the free for all in schools.

Shhhhh, don't you know what her/himself says is always correct. Not to be argued with😉

Open the Pubs

It's very possible even in Level 5 cases will remain high with schools open. I also don't believe there will be the same public buy in as before.

There will be Halloween house parties, and Christmas it's hard to see people sticking to the guidelines.

Higgins5473

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058122705

I think this is worth discussion at this stage, because there seems to be just massive hatred and accusations thrown towards teachers about laziness "holidays" stuff.

Are teachers the only "frontline" staff now that are shat on?

thebronze14

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

The bane of my life. Still have 6 parents who haven't bothered to enroll on the platform I'm using. I'm three weeks trying to get them to. Despite messages from both myself and the principal, still nothing.

I've been doing the same from since the start of the year and still no joy! Phonecalls etc made but even though they said they would they just don't bother. Even agreed to set it up on their phones in the school yard but a few parents I feel want the easy life and will have nothing to do with helping the education of their kids and feel that it's our problem.

TTLF

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Looks like minimum of 6 cases transmitted at a geography field trip in a Mullingar school. School emphasising that students wore masks and maintained SD on the bus to and from it.

Also emphasising that these field trips have to happen as part of the curriculum for LC geography.

Oh god that's really worrying, mines in January.

Honestly, Idk why they didn't take that off the LC course due to Covid, seemed like a no brainer.

solerina

Open the Pubs wrote: »

It's very possible even in Level 5 cases will remain high with schools open. I also don't believe there will be the same public buy in as before.

There will be Halloween house parties, and Christmas it's hard to see people sticking to the guidelines.

Then at least the govt etc will have no option but to finally admit that the schools being open are driving the surge and stop hiding the true facts.

JP100

For the most part the weather has been reasonable enough since the schools have gone back. When the wetter months hit us and it's raining practically every day and the kids can't go outside, the schools are going to be a sh1t show!

LilyShame

The thing is... All these positive cases in schools...how many are actually ill?

Is it the restrictions and the system that's causing the problems, rather than the illness itself?

I say this having lost someone in a nursing home. But now I'm seeing the light... We cannot go on measuring every last entity of this virus. Life has to go on..

irishblessing

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

I don't want the schools closing. If everywhere goes Level 5 then schools will be safer than they currently are as community transmission will be reduced.

The only thing I want to see is counties emerge from Level 5 as their individual numbers merit it. Country-wide Level 5 makes no sense if certain areas doing better than others.

Dr. Fauci, the US's top expert on infectious diseases, disagrees with you. He wins.

Dickie10

the big problem is and nobody seems to want to give an answer is what happens when we go level 5 for a month then back to level 2 in january /februaruy when case numbers fall to 20-30 a day, as they will. when level 2 comes again numbers will shoot up again in march, so is it back to level 5 restrictions next march and into summer , everything cancelled again? or do they say once vaccine is available in march earliest, that oh we have vaccine all restrictions lifted now up to you joe public to get vaccinated. now march is very optimistic for the ordinary irish person to get hands on vaccine, so are we looking at all next year wrote off as well on level 2-4 lockdowns every 2-3 months?

AlphaDelta1

School bus driver in my estate admitted to hospital today with Covid. Apparently started showing symptoms on Tuesday so unfortunately looks like he has gone down hill rapidly.

Millionaire only not

irishblessing wrote: »

Dr. Fauci, the US's top expert on infectious diseases, disagrees with you. He wins.

U can be sure he’s somewhere behind the cause of this virus, I’d lay money he’ll be there with his Chinese friends for the cure as well .

CruelSummer

LilyShame wrote: »

The thing is... All these positive cases in schools...how many are actually ill?

Is it the restrictions and the system that's causing the problems, rather than the illness itself?

I say this having lost someone in a nursing home. But now I'm seeing the light... We cannot go on measuring every last entity of this virus. Life has to go on..

As far as I can see, children are perfectly well and largely unaffected by Covid.

khalessi

CruelSummer wrote: »

As far as I can see, children are perfectly well and largely unaffected by Covid.

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

School bus driver in my estate admitted to hospital today with Covid. Apparently started showing symptoms on Tuesday so unfortunately looks like he has gone down hill rapidly.

And this is the issue that studies have discovered, the children may be fine, have covid and pass it on to others who wont be fine.

marilynrr

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

School in Gorey with 14 cases, 11 students and 3 staff.

That's a hell of a lot of doorbells being pressed, towels being touched and spoons being licked ehh Leo? Nothing to see here, move on.

I assume that's Gorey community school, that's the largest secondary school in the country and very overcrowded!

Dickie10

there will a massive amount of teachers retiring early this year and next , anyine that can wil jump ship after this episdode

Talisman

Hodors Appletart wrote: »

Are some schools ploughing their own furrow?

My son's class had a positive case identified on Monday evening, all the kids were told to stay home and then the HSE let the school know that they are considering all kids, the teacher the special resource teacher and the SNA all to be close contacts. We had a test on Weds evening, as did the rest of the kids and adults, and the tests came back negative.

The kids are still not allowed back until next Friday (14 days after first contact with the pos case)

Is this not happening in all schools?

Wow, the person in the HSE that dealt with the school must have a heart.

There have been two positive cases in my son's Transition Year class this week. The first was announced to the class on Monday, the students and teachers were told that the HSE did not consider them to be close contacts. This is despite the fact that half the class (including the affected student) have been hanging out outside the local shop and at the park across the road from the school at lunchtime. The second student was tested on Tuesday at their GPs recommendation and got a positive result on Wednesday.

The HSE told the school principal that because the first student didn't get infected in a school setting, the school were not obligated to inform the parents.

Queried

CruelSummer wrote: »

As far as I can see, children are perfectly well and largely unaffected by Covid.

And thank God for that. But when you're in a classroom of thirty 11-12 year olds who are not required to wear masks and have been scientifically proven to transmit covid "as least as well as adults" it's hard to relax.

irishblessing

Can anyone repost the links to the 2 largest studies that were done on research to Coronavirus spread in the schools? I can't remember when they were posted (probably in the other thread) and not having any luck on google.

xhomelezz

irishblessing wrote: »

Can anyone repost the links to the 2 largest studies that were done on research to Coronavirus spread in the schools? I can't remember when they were posted (probably in the other thread) and not having any luck on google.

Do you mean this one?

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-1315_article