EasyGo public chargers

fillum

I just purchased my first EV last week (and loving it!). I've signed up for both ESB's card, as well as EasyGo. One thing I am confused by is how some of the charge points for EasyGo are free, whereas the very same charger has to be paid for with the ESB card. This even goes for fast chargers. Any ideas?

Gumbo

fillum wrote: »

I just purchased my first EV last week (and loving it!). I've signed up for both ESB's card, as well as EasyGo. One thing I am confused by is how some of the charge points for EasyGo are free, whereas the very same charger has to be paid for with the ESB card. This even goes for fast chargers. Any ideas?

Private enterprise.
The same way circle k in Cabra is €1 for petrol but circle k in Finglas is €1.10.

Location, ownership of the unit, contract, etc etc

Lidl is free as Lidl have quite green credibility and they want to entice you into their store. They are 22kw units.

Then some charge as they are on motorway routes so facilitate cross country travel.

The big question is did you buy an EV to only charge on the public network?
Do you have a home charger?

colmkirk

Gumbo wrote: »

Private enterprise.
The same way circle k in Cabra is €1 for petrol but circle k in Finglas is €1.10.

Location, ownership of the unit, contract, etc etc

Lidl is free as Lidl have quite green credibility and they want to entice you into their store. They are 22kw units.

Then some charge as they are on motorway routes so facilitate cross country travel.

The big question is did you buy an EV to only charge on the public network?
Do you have a home charger?

Just following on from that question, do you guys think that the charging network has improved since esb has started charging ev owners?

fillum

No I’ve just had a zappi installed today. Just found it odd that my local shopping Centre has fast chargers that I need to pay for with my card, but when using the EasyGO tag they’re free. Thanks for the answer

Gumbo

colmkirk wrote: »

Just following on from that question, do you guys think that the charging network has improved since esb has started charging ev owners?

No idea. I don’t use the public network.
But I have noticed on drive by’s that a lot of the chargers are always empty. I’d say for those that need it, it’s much easier to get a charge nowadays.

Gumbo

fillum wrote: »

No I’ve just had a zappi installed today. Just found it odd that my local shopping Centre has fast chargers that I need to pay for with my card, but when using the EasyGO tag they’re free. Thanks for the answer

What chargers are they?
Most if not all require a membership card or fob of some sort.

Even easygo require registration and you tap the fob or activate on their app the same way as ESB chargers. Even the free ones.

Black_Knight

fillum wrote: »

No I’ve just had a zappi installed today. Just found it odd that my local shopping Centre has fast chargers that I need to pay for with my card, but when using the EasyGO tag they’re free. Thanks for the answer

Interesting. Checking the easygo app it does say the esb units are free of charge. Surely not though!?

fillum

Black_Knight wrote: »

Interesting. Checking the easygo app it does say the esb units are free of charge. Surely not though!?

Yeah thats what I thought! I noticed it initially in the app that it had text beside each charger that said 'free of charge' - which made me try it out yesterday, I used the ESB CCS charger in my shopping centre, tapped the EasyGo fob and it worked.

fillum

Gumbo wrote: »

What chargers are they?
Most if not all require a membership card or fob of some sort.

Even easygo require registration and you tap the fob or activate on their app the same way as ESB chargers. Even the free ones.

They're the ESB green ones you see around the place, with the 3 chargers. I registered with EasyGo, they sent the fob and it worked.

yop

As the ones I went to yesterday in Dublin all had diesels parked in them.
One lad who was sitting in the car near the 'Joy did move it and I got in to charge. But the spaces aren't marked green.

I paid my parking charge and came back 90 mins later to have the car 1/2 charged for .78 cent.

Black_Knight

fillum wrote: »

They're the ESB green ones you see around the place, with the 3 chargers. I registered with EasyGo, they sent the fob and it worked.

Didn't work from the app anyways. Does the fob initiate charge? And for free (as suggested in the app)

zg3409

Beware the app may say free but your credit card may be billed. The easygo app was supposed to work on esb chargers and Ionity, but it still seems buggy and not 100%.

The plan was interoperability between both systems. You may be billed at end of month. ESB chargers should not be free. Many easygo chargers are free particularly lidl ones.

Black_Knight

False advertising to say they're free, and then bill for them.

Gumbo

Black_Knight wrote: »

False advertising to say they're free, and then bill for them.

They are not billing you though.
Easygo should update their info but always check the source supplier, in this case, eCars.

obi604

Was at a lidl today and noticed an electric car charger post. Did not get a chance to look at it.

Anyone have any details on them? Does one need some sort of a swipe card or just plug and play? Presume they are 3.6 kw.

Kramer

obi604 wrote: »

Was at a lidl today and noticed an electric car charger post. Did not get a chance to look at it.

22kW AC points, ran by EasyGo.
You need their app/fob to initiate them.

https://easygo.ie/

obi604

Kramer wrote: »

22kW AC points, ran by EasyGo.
You need their app/fob to initiate them.

https://easygo.ie/

thanks, I cant easily see from the website
is there a sign up or monthly fee?
what is the cost per kw?


directed towards people that have actual experience with this service

the_amazing_raisin

obi604 wrote: »

thanks i cant easily see from the website
is there a sign up or monthly fee?
what is teh cost per kw?


directed towards people that have actual experience with this servuice

Depends on the chargers, EasyGo can have different prices depending on where the charger is


Lidl ones are free last time I checked

obi604

cruisey1987 wrote: »

Depends on the chargers, EasyGo can have different prices depending on where the charger is


Lidl ones are free last time I checked

thanks, for a very occasional user of public chargers, is it worthwhile to sign up to easygo? I have an esb ecars sign up.


not sure if its worth my while to be probably paying another monthly fee to easygo

the_amazing_raisin

obi604 wrote: »

thanks, for a very occasional user of public chargers, is it worthwhile to sign up to easygo? I have an esb ecars sign up.


not sure if its worth my while to be probably paying another monthly fee to easygo

You can sign up for a free account and no monthly fees, download the app and you'll be able to use the lidl chargers

If you're only going to use public charging occasionally then I'd avoid the ESB monthly fee account, just use pay as you go

obi604

cruisey1987 wrote: »

You can sign up for a free account and no monthly fees, download the app and you'll be able to use the lidl chargers

If you're only going to use public charging occasionally then I'd avoid the ESB monthly fee account, just use pay as you go

noted with easy go, is there any upfront fees etc



seems like you have to pay them for the fob

the_amazing_raisin

obi604 wrote: »

noted with easy go, is there any upfront fees etc



seems like you have to pay them for the fob

Only if you go for the fob, I didn't bother

obi604

cruisey1987 wrote: »

Only if you go for the fob, I didn't bother

thanks, so essentially, its free to register for easy go (if you dont bother with fob)



and you can use it to charge with the free chargers at lidl etc


what other charges does it allow you charge with ?

slave1

Must be a new thing, I never got charged for two fobs when I signed up in May with them

obi604

which of these options is best to choose? presume the pay as you go scenario


pay as you go suggest just for one use only, anything above this should be pre pay

https://ibb.co/H4ZJQmp

the_amazing_raisin

obi604 wrote: »

what other charges does it allow you charge with ?

Easiest way is to go onto the easygo website and look at the list of chargers, any that are listed *should* work with easygo, including the ESB ones



Having said that, I've yet to try the ESB chargers with easygo, so can't comment on how well/badly it works

obi604

obi604 wrote: »

which of these options is best to choose? presume the pay as you go scenario


pay as you go suggest just for one use only, anything above this should be pre pay

https://ibb.co/H4ZJQmp

any thoughts on this?

the_amazing_raisin

obi604 wrote: »

any thoughts on this?

Pay as you go, since you mentioned you'd only occasionally use them and the lidl chargers are free

unkel

I signed up when they were new. Got free dongle (which doesn't work when I tested it recently - requested a new one) and got phone app. Several Lidls near me have an easy go charger, which usually have good parking, well marked and with 2 * 22kW AC chargers, free to use for customers of Lidl only for max 1 hour (but this doesn't seem to be policed)

Kramer

cruisey1987 wrote: »

Easiest way is to go onto the easygo website

Apparently they can't easily use the EasyGo website though :pac:.

obi604 wrote: »

thanks, I cant easily see from the website
is there a sign up or monthly fee?
what is the cost per kw?
directed towards people that have actual experience with this service

innrain

The first private rapid charger in Dublin went live today. At least it showing live on easygo app.
I'm trying to ascertain their prices but I don't really get it.
On the website it says

EasyGo 50kW DC Charge Point. Access through EasyGo only. From Monday 13th July 2020, access fee payable plus €0.35 per kWh used. There is an additional overstay penalty of €0.35 per minute applied after 60 minutes plugged in. Vat of 13.5% applies.



on the app

I can't find a prices page on their website. Does anybody know better?

Black_Knight

innrain wrote: »

The first private rapid charger in Dublin went live today. At least it showing live on easygo app.
I'm trying to ascertain their prices but I don't really get it.
On the website it says

EasyGo 50kW DC Charge Point. Access through EasyGo only. From Monday 13th July 2020, access fee payable plus €0.35 per kWh used. There is an additional overstay penalty of €0.35 per minute applied after 60 minutes plugged in. Vat of 13.5% applies.



on the app

I can't find a prices page on their website. Does anybody know better?

About 3 fiddy.

It was about that time I notice that EasyGo was about 8 stories tall and a crustacean from the protozoic era.

ELM327

Easygo price plan:

It's 27c access fee and then 19 dickety cents per kwh. We had to say the word dickety as the kaiser stole our word for 20. We tied an onion to our belt as was the style at the time.

You owe us 50 quid as described above.


Such a crappy company, I had such hope for them. They sounded promising, I've seen chris at some EV events pre covid and he talked the talk for sure.

Black_Knight

ELM327 wrote: »

Easygo price plan:

It's 27c access fee and then 19 dickety cents per kwh. We had to say the word dickety as the kaiser stole our word for 20. We tied an onion to our belt as was the style at the time.

You owe us 50 quid as described above.


Such a crappy company, I had such hope for them. They sounded promising, I've seen chris at some EV events pre covid and he talked the talk for sure.

Their pricing just confuses me enough to put them bottom of the list in terms of who to charge off of (not that there's many near me). I applaud them for being open to businesses approaching them to host a unit, and sharing the spoils, but i've not really seen the fruits of that. Do EasyGo roll out units with any form of regularity? Is now (covid) just a bad time to do anything like that so they've paused things?

innrain

from what I know they have 6 rapids.

2 in Kinnegad, 1 in Mullingar, 1 in Cork, 1 in Galway and this last one in Dublin.

The one in Dublin is beside my work. I would prefer slow chargers at work as the car is parked there for hours, but beggars and choosers comes to mind.
I have an account with them since April 2019 but never paid anything To be honest I will happily give them my thou even if they are a bit more expensive than ecars. I will try to contact them and let you know if it gets any clearer.

Felexicon

0.24c connection fee
0.35c per kWh

Black_Knight

Spotted on facebook a new fast charger in DCU. Just when I slate them for not installing anything of late.

innrain

I'm willing to cut them some slack. Giving the times and the fact that they are a small company in a big boys club. I imagine is not very pink for them, with all WFH going.
If the prices given by Felexicon are correct then a 35kWh charge would cost 12.5 instead of 9.5 on ecars. The plus is that the penalty kicks in after 60 mins so one could charge more in one go.

slave1

They have a 50 rapid in Edgeworthstown but you can’t use it as one bay blocks an entrance and the other bay is a disabled parking space

innrain

I'm happy to report that the DCU unit is operational. Charging there now. It has a contactless payment module. Very quiet unit and steady charging speed. I'll see what their prices are.

ELM327

innrain wrote: »

I'm happy to report that the DCU unit is operational. Charging there now. It has a contactless payment module. Very quiet unit and steady charging speed. I'll see what their prices are.

Assuming the prices are reasonable I will go out of my way to use any company or charger that supports this.

innrain

I've worked out the prices based on my charging session this morning

Felexicon wrote: »

0.24c connection fee
0.35c per kWh

These are prices ex VAT

My calculations got me to: connection fee 27c then 40c/kWh as stated on the app. These are prepaid charges. I do not know what are the charges for the pay as you go.

A tad more expensive than what I would call reasonable but still acceptable.
So a 35kWh charging session costs 14.27 as compared to ecars 9.38; 52% more.
I would not move my business from ecars to them but I would still use this charger from time to time for the convenient location.

innrain

Got an app update and while trying to get what is new I have noticed a new rapid at DCU St Pats campus. It seems live.

Felexicon

innrain wrote: »

Got an app update and while trying to get what is new I have noticed a new rapid at DCU St Pats campus. It seems live.

It is indeed live. Bit of a peculiar spot but perfectly accessible.

innrain

I think DCU chose the spots. Northside got sorted. I've charged five times at DCU already and I was about to say that everything seems fine when noticed they overcharged me for today 's session. I hope it is just a fluke.

zg3409

innrain wrote: »

Got an app update and while trying to get what is new I have noticed a new rapid at DCU St Pats campus. It seems live.

I think app was updated n December 1st. It might be a beta version so all users might not see an update. I am on android. Version 3.75 installed today.

Pricing depends on account type, if logged in or not,

There seems to be a high once off fee if you are not registered with Easygo and don't have money in your account. They tend to show prices ex VAT and its quite confusing.

For most DC chargers there is an overstay fee (PER MINUTE) from 60 minutes (21 Euro per hour) after starting charge and it works out very expensive to abandon your car there. Probably fairer and more a dis-incentive than ESB once off 5 Euro at 45 minutes. The ESB app gives multiple warnings around 45 minutes. I am not sure if the easygo app gives warnings of overstay. [**EDIT Easygo have changed to 5 Euro overstay once off fee at 60 minutes now**]

Its great to have these North Dublin 50Kw chargers as the nearby Airport charger is often blocked and busy, and other 50Kw chargers in North Dublin are also some of the busiest in the country. They are close enough to M50 to be good options.

I know multiple councils in Dublin are working together to roll out proper planned infrastructure so hopefully this is part of it. DCU has some AC chargers in staff only car park that were on plushare at one stage.

unkel

Was at the EasyGo triple head at Lidl Drogheda for the first time last night. CCS not working and a quick check on ZapMap showed it had been out of action for months (CHAdeMO also out, only the AC side was working and an Ioniq, nearly full charged, was plugged into it, looked abandoned). A Zoe was waiting, but then left and an eGolf showed up, also his first time there, I explained the situation and he left too

I didn't need a charge, just curious. I had only tested my CCS conversion on an ESB charger for 1 minute before and I had time to kill picking up something in the area, so I did a quick Lidl shop

Bit of a shambles, this has been reported to EasyGo numerous times, no action. I guess they have little interest repairing free chargers with their own money

AndyBoBandy

I was at that one in Lidl Drogheda a few months, and the same story, only the AC was working.. It was quiet so I used it while in grabbing some things.

Its a pity because that should be a perfect template of where to locate DC chargers, large grocery store carparks... and not just free, paid for DC charging.

Person lives in apartment, buys ev, no home charge option, battery is low, goes shopping in Tesco/Lidl/Aldi/SuperValu etc..., comes home with full battery.

unkel

Or free charge only if you spend €50 or €100 in shop. Agreed though, 50kW or so DC chargers are perfect at shopping centres / supermarkets. I've said that for many years.

The majority of people in the Netherlands buying EVs these days do not have and will never get home charging. It's not a problem as long as the public charging infrastructure is good.

zg3409

unkel wrote: »

Was at the EasyGo triple head at Lidl Drogheda for the first time last night. CCS not working and a quick check on ZapMap showed it had been out of action for months (CHAdeMO also out, only the AC side was working and an Ioniq, nearly full charged, was plugged into it, looked abandoned). A Zoe was waiting, but then left and an eGolf showed up, also his first time there, I explained the situation and he left too

I didn't need a charge, just curious. I had only tested my CCS conversion on an ESB charger for 1 minute before and I had time to kill picking up something in the area, so I did a quick Lidl shop

Bit of a shambles, this has been reported to EasyGo numerous times, no action. I guess they have little interest repairing free chargers with their own money

Easygo took over management of that charger a while ago. I presume lidl pay for maintenance and they may be waiting on parts. I recommend ringing easygo for an update. They have fixed their normal 50kW chargers same day in many cases, but this is older different model. It says CCS in use on the app right now, they might not be aware of issues or they might keep resetting it.

Kramer

zg3409 wrote: »

they might not be aware of issues or they might keep resetting it.

Or they might just be a poor company..........wouldn't be the first, in fairness .