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EasyGo public chargers

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  • Moderators Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    innrain wrote: »
    The first private rapid charger in Dublin went live today. At least it showing live on easygo app.
    I'm trying to ascertain their prices but I don't really get it.
    On the website it says

    EasyGo 50kW DC Charge Point. Access through EasyGo only. From Monday 13th July 2020, access fee payable plus €0.35 per kWh used. There is an additional overstay penalty of €0.35 per minute applied after 60 minutes plugged in. Vat of 13.5% applies.



    on the app 532444.png

    I can't find a prices page on their website. Does anybody know better?

    About 3 fiddy.

    It was about that time I notice that EasyGo was about 8 stories tall and a crustacean from the protozoic era.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,318 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Easygo price plan:

    It's 27c access fee and then 19 dickety cents per kwh. We had to say the word dickety as the kaiser stole our word for 20. We tied an onion to our belt as was the style at the time.

    You owe us 50 quid as described above.


    Such a crappy company, I had such hope for them. They sounded promising, I've seen chris at some EV events pre covid and he talked the talk for sure.


  • Moderators Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Easygo price plan:

    It's 27c access fee and then 19 dickety cents per kwh. We had to say the word dickety as the kaiser stole our word for 20. We tied an onion to our belt as was the style at the time.

    You owe us 50 quid as described above.


    Such a crappy company, I had such hope for them. They sounded promising, I've seen chris at some EV events pre covid and he talked the talk for sure.

    Their pricing just confuses me enough to put them bottom of the list in terms of who to charge off of (not that there's many near me). I applaud them for being open to businesses approaching them to host a unit, and sharing the spoils, but i've not really seen the fruits of that. Do EasyGo roll out units with any form of regularity? Is now (covid) just a bad time to do anything like that so they've paused things?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭innrain


    from what I know they have 6 rapids.

    2 in Kinnegad, 1 in Mullingar, 1 in Cork, 1 in Galway and this last one in Dublin.

    The one in Dublin is beside my work. I would prefer slow chargers at work as the car is parked there for hours, but beggars and choosers comes to mind.
    I have an account with them since April 2019 but never paid anything To be honest I will happily give them my thou even if they are a bit more expensive than ecars. I will try to contact them and let you know if it gets any clearer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    0.24c connection fee
    0.35c per kWh


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  • Moderators Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Spotted on facebook a new fast charger in DCU. Just when I slate them for not installing anything of late.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭innrain


    I'm willing to cut them some slack. Giving the times and the fact that they are a small company in a big boys club. I imagine is not very pink for them, with all WFH going.
    If the prices given by Felexicon are correct then a 35kWh charge would cost 12.5 instead of 9.5 on ecars. The plus is that the penalty kicks in after 60 mins so one could charge more in one go.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    They have a 50 rapid in Edgeworthstown but you can’t use it as one bay blocks an entrance and the other bay is a disabled parking space


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭innrain


    I'm happy to report that the DCU unit is operational. Charging there now. It has a contactless payment module. Very quiet unit and steady charging speed. I'll see what their prices are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,318 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    innrain wrote: »
    I'm happy to report that the DCU unit is operational. Charging there now. It has a contactless payment module. Very quiet unit and steady charging speed. I'll see what their prices are.
    Assuming the prices are reasonable I will go out of my way to use any company or charger that supports this.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭innrain


    I've worked out the prices based on my charging session this morning
    Felexicon wrote: »
    0.24c connection fee
    0.35c per kWh
    These are prices ex VAT

    My calculations got me to: connection fee 27c then 40c/kWh as stated on the app. These are prepaid charges. I do not know what are the charges for the pay as you go.

    A tad more expensive than what I would call reasonable but still acceptable.
    So a 35kWh charging session costs 14.27 as compared to ecars 9.38; 52% more.
    I would not move my business from ecars to them but I would still use this charger from time to time for the convenient location.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭innrain


    Got an app update and while trying to get what is new I have noticed a new rapid at DCU St Pats campus. It seems live.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    innrain wrote: »
    Got an app update and while trying to get what is new I have noticed a new rapid at DCU St Pats campus. It seems live.

    It is indeed live. Bit of a peculiar spot but perfectly accessible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭innrain


    I think DCU chose the spots. Northside got sorted. I've charged five times at DCU already and I was about to say that everything seems fine when noticed they overcharged me for today 's session. I hope it is just a fluke.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,549 ✭✭✭zg3409


    innrain wrote: »
    Got an app update and while trying to get what is new I have noticed a new rapid at DCU St Pats campus. It seems live.

    I think app was updated n December 1st. It might be a beta version so all users might not see an update. I am on android. Version 3.75 installed today.

    Pricing depends on account type, if logged in or not,

    There seems to be a high once off fee if you are not registered with Easygo and don't have money in your account. They tend to show prices ex VAT and its quite confusing.

    For most DC chargers there is an overstay fee (PER MINUTE) from 60 minutes (21 Euro per hour) after starting charge and it works out very expensive to abandon your car there. Probably fairer and more a dis-incentive than ESB once off 5 Euro at 45 minutes. The ESB app gives multiple warnings around 45 minutes. I am not sure if the easygo app gives warnings of overstay. [**EDIT Easygo have changed to 5 Euro overstay once off fee at 60 minutes now**]

    Its great to have these North Dublin 50Kw chargers as the nearby Airport charger is often blocked and busy, and other 50Kw chargers in North Dublin are also some of the busiest in the country. They are close enough to M50 to be good options.

    I know multiple councils in Dublin are working together to roll out proper planned infrastructure so hopefully this is part of it. DCU has some AC chargers in staff only car park that were on plushare at one stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64,702 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Was at the EasyGo triple head at Lidl Drogheda for the first time last night. CCS not working and a quick check on ZapMap showed it had been out of action for months (CHAdeMO also out, only the AC side was working and an Ioniq, nearly full charged, was plugged into it, looked abandoned). A Zoe was waiting, but then left and an eGolf showed up, also his first time there, I explained the situation and he left too

    I didn't need a charge, just curious. I had only tested my CCS conversion on an ESB charger for 1 minute before and I had time to kill picking up something in the area, so I did a quick Lidl shop

    Bit of a shambles, this has been reported to EasyGo numerous times, no action. I guess they have little interest repairing free chargers with their own money


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I was at that one in Lidl Drogheda a few months, and the same story, only the AC was working.. It was quiet so I used it while in grabbing some things.

    Its a pity because that should be a perfect template of where to locate DC chargers, large grocery store carparks... and not just free, paid for DC charging.

    Person lives in apartment, buys ev, no home charge option, battery is low, goes shopping in Tesco/Lidl/Aldi/SuperValu etc..., comes home with full battery.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64,702 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Or free charge only if you spend €50 or €100 in shop. Agreed though, 50kW or so DC chargers are perfect at shopping centres / supermarkets. I've said that for many years.

    The majority of people in the Netherlands buying EVs these days do not have and will never get home charging. It's not a problem as long as the public charging infrastructure is good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,549 ✭✭✭zg3409


    unkel wrote: »
    Was at the EasyGo triple head at Lidl Drogheda for the first time last night. CCS not working and a quick check on ZapMap showed it had been out of action for months (CHAdeMO also out, only the AC side was working and an Ioniq, nearly full charged, was plugged into it, looked abandoned). A Zoe was waiting, but then left and an eGolf showed up, also his first time there, I explained the situation and he left too

    I didn't need a charge, just curious. I had only tested my CCS conversion on an ESB charger for 1 minute before and I had time to kill picking up something in the area, so I did a quick Lidl shop

    Bit of a shambles, this has been reported to EasyGo numerous times, no action. I guess they have little interest repairing free chargers with their own money

    Easygo took over management of that charger a while ago. I presume lidl pay for maintenance and they may be waiting on parts. I recommend ringing easygo for an update. They have fixed their normal 50kW chargers same day in many cases, but this is older different model. It says CCS in use on the app right now, they might not be aware of issues or they might keep resetting it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,224 ✭✭✭Kramer


    zg3409 wrote: »
    they might not be aware of issues or they might keep resetting it.

    Or they might just be a poor company..........wouldn't be the first, in fairness :p.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 64,702 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    zg3409 wrote: »
    It says CCS in use on the app right now, they might not be aware of issues or they might keep resetting it.

    In the comments I briefly read last night while there people said they had informed EasyGo several times of this issue. No fix.

    Can't say I'm suprised. I've rang them a few times and left numerous messages through the online app that my dongle is faulty. No response, no fix. Extremely poor customer service (in so far as you can call me a customer - I've never paid them a cent - but that's beside the point)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭loopymum


    I reported a site that didn't have the two 22kws working a few times on the app or contact. No response and chargers still not working. Rang about a week later and they reset them while I was on the phone


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭innrain


    innrain wrote: »
    .... when noticed they overcharged me for today 's session. I hope it is just a fluke.

    I got a reply acknowledging their mistake and that they will refund me. Today I charged for free it seems; so all is good. It will be nice if DCU will paint/mark that spot as it says loading bay and vans are stopping there.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    EasyGo partnering with EIR to transform 180 old Telephone boxes into DC chargers...

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/1207/1182799-180-telephone-boxes-to-be-turned-into-car-charge-points/
    Car charging network provider, EasyGo has formed a partnership with telecoms company, Eir to replace 180 telephone kiosks around the country with electric vehicle rapid charge points.

    EasyGo claim that the DC Rapid Chargers, developed by Australia based plug and charge company, Tritium, will add 100 kilometres of range to an electric vehicle in less than 20 minutes.

    "100 kilometres of charge would cost less than €5. The important thing for electric vehicle driving is that people can charge at home at the night rate, but they have the comfort of knowing that they can charge when they're out and about and return and not have that 'range anxiety'", Gerry Cash, Director of EasyGo explained.

    'Range anxiety' refers to the 21st century phenomenon of a driver fearing that they will run out of power before getting to a charge point, exacerbated by the relative absence of charging infrastructure, particularly in rural areas.

    "If you live rurally, you're not going to jump on a Luas or get on a bus at the bottom of the road. That's why it's important that, if we're going to transition for petrol or diesel to electric, you're going to have to be able to charge cars in rural locations," Mr Cash said.

    Great move.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,318 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Great idea indeed. Hopefully they leave the phone boxes in place for a bit of shelter!


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    And use the existing phone lines to install sensors/cameras to deter ICEing..

    Sensor detects a car parked, waits 5 minutes and if no charging session starts, the cameras snap the scene (with reg visible), and it's sent off for human review... The human sees a daysul Passatt parked there, a fine is issued for blocking EV bay, the human sees Mary, 76, Model X plugged in, but faffing about with an card/card, does not issue fine...


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,549 ✭✭✭zg3409


    And use the existing phone lines to install sensors/cameras to deter ICEing..

    Sensor detects a car parked, waits 5 minutes and if no charging session starts, the cameras snap the scene (with reg visible), and it's sent off for human review... The human sees a daysul Passatt parked there, a fine is issued for blocking EV bay, the human sees Mary, 76, Model X plugged in, but faffing about with an card/card, does not issue fine...

    I suspect they will remove cabinet, old ESB power cable and phone line and install new 50kW+ capable ESB supply. I expect the deal is to reduce planning problems. They say they are going to work with local authorities, presumably to reserve and mark nearby parking spaces. They mention rural areas, but I suspect the only financially viable sites will be in large towns or next to national routes. For the site works involved I don't know why they bothered with Eir unless Eir are subsidising the rollout and promoting the network. I would gave thought it was more work to remove a phone box, than install a charging point on a clear bit of footpath in a prime location. With a fiver per customerper 30 minute session I can't see anyone getting rich quick when the charger alone is 20,000 euro+ with a lifespan of say Max 15 years.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    EasyGo also look to be on a mission to install 50kW DC chargers in SuperValu's

    https://twitter.com/Easygo_ie/status/1337395196905082881?s=20

    They say they have more planned...

    Are you watching ESB/Tesco??

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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,318 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Now that I'd use, especially if I had no home charging.
    You'd get enough charge in the 45-60 mins of shopping to do a few days.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,434 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    Pricing :

    EasyGo DC Tariff 35 for PrePay Users | €0.24 | €0.35 per kW + VAT

    €5 overstay fee after 1 hour


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