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EasyGo public chargers

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  • Moderators Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    The boarder of West corks no EVs land has moved slightly more West. Excellent! Bravo easygo


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 Kevin Forde


    Brilliant. Have to register the i3 in Skibbereen NCT centre tomorrow, so can now top up in Clon on the way home.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,884 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Brilliant. Have to register the i3 in Skibbereen NCT centre tomorrow, so can now top up in Clon on the way home.

    Report back and let us know how you got on using it.


    And if you are on Plugshare, maybe check in, and also add a few photo's....


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,659 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I've tried to use chargers like that one in the photo a lot as there is a good few around me, they are terribly unreliable and broken on a consistent basis

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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,335 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    jhegarty wrote: »
    Pricing :

    EasyGo DC Tariff 35 for PrePay Users | €0.24 | €0.35 per kW + VAT

    €5 overstay fee after 1 hour

    0.35c per kW * 50kW = €17.5 per session?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,434 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    ELM327 wrote: »
    0.35c per kW * 50kW = €17.5 per session?

    I think the €0.24 is a connect fee.

    So € 17.85 but it will take over the hour to get 50 Kw , so factor the overstay if you need the full amount.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,335 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    jhegarty wrote: »
    I think the €0.24 is a connect fee.

    So € 17.85 but it will take over the hour to get 50 Kw , so factor the overstay if you need the full amount.


    Sorry. I was being facetious.
    .35 per kW vs .35 vs kWh


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 Kevin Forde


    Report back and let us know how you got on using it.


    And if you are on Plugshare, maybe check in, and also add a few photo's....

    EasyGo 50kW Clonakilty today - both spaces ICEd on arrival (they are not painted) but one had an occupant who moved the car for me. I had 52% on arrival and CCS only delivered 30-35kW (33kWh i3). Otherwise grand. Photo added to Plugshare.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,224 ✭✭✭Kramer


    Why are Easygo showing ex. VAT prices? They sell to consumers, are not
    an exclusively "commercial" or "trade only" provider.
    They are the only provider doing this too - I wonder why?
    The CPCC say the law is, prices displayed to consumers must include VAT :confused:.

    Their website also proclaims them to be:

    "Ireland's Largest EV Charging Network".

    On what criteria are they basing this? ECars probably have more AC & DC points, as far as I am aware. Tesla likely have more DC points too, as do Ionity. Even Tesla likely have more destination chargers, albeit often only 7kW.

    Easygo chargers also say "probably", in ghosted font, to qualify the claim below, of being Ireland's "Best" Car Charging Network.

    So they are probably the best, but definitely the largest network.

    How does that work?

    :confused:.


  • Moderators Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Kramer wrote: »
    Why are Easygo showing ex. VAT prices? They sell to consumers, are not
    an exclusively "commercial" or "trade only" provider.
    They are the only provider doing this too - I wonder why?
    The CPCC say the law is, prices displayed to consumers must include VAT :confused:.

    Their website also proclaims them to be:

    "Ireland's Largest EV Charging Network".

    On what criteria are they basing this? ECars probably have more AC & DC points, as far as I am aware. Tesla likely have more DC points too, as do Ionity. Even Tesla likely have more destination chargers, albeit often only 7kW.

    Easygo chargers also say "probably", in ghosted font, to qualify the claim below, of being Ireland's "Best" Car Charging Network.

    So they are probably the best, but definitely the largest network.

    How does that work?

    :confused:.

    Marketing!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,553 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Kramer wrote: »
    How does that work?

    :confused:.
    Its network is used by more than 7,000 Irish EV drivers that can find, use, and pay for charging at more than 1,200 charge-points around the country.

    Their network includes ESB...due to roaming agreement, and ionity.
    ESB also includes a good few Nissan dealer Chademo.


    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/1207/1182799-180-telephone-boxes-to-be-turned-into-car-charge-points/
    The new DC charging units will join EasyGo’s existing national network of 1,200 charging units, which are used by more than 7,000 Irish EV drivers

    https://www.siliconrepublic.com/machines/eir-easygo-convert-phone-boxes-ev-charging-points

    Easy go have a good few company only chargers listed on their app too.

    They have a good few lidl in ROI and NI.

    They have public AC in the likes of Ennis.

    I asked them to add a filter option for easygo, as their app is covered in dots, most of which are ESB.
    The latest app version has a filter for roaming chargers and you can see the easygo only sites.

    As for the vat thing, their prices are confusing as they list exVat and including VAT prices and changed the overstay fee from ler minute to a fixed fee which nay or nay not include vat. They also have an activation fee after first 3 minutes and kWh is confusing to many anyway so most won't really know how much its going to cost until after the event.

    Some chargers they listed as free, but they were no longer free such as roaming partners ESB and ionity.

    They have touch to pay by credit card now, and the price varies depending on account type, no account and activation fee is much higher. I don't know what happens when you touch your credit card to pay but I'm sure its not free.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,335 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    zg3409 wrote: »
    Their network includes ESB...due to roaming agreement, and ionity.
    ESB also includes a good few Nissan dealer Chademo.


    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/1207/1182799-180-telephone-boxes-to-be-turned-into-car-charge-points/



    https://www.siliconrepublic.com/machines/eir-easygo-convert-phone-boxes-ev-charging-points

    Easy go have a good few company only chargers listed on their app too.

    They have a good few lidl in ROI and NI.

    They have public AC in the likes of Ennis.

    I asked them to add a filter option for easygo, as their app is covered in dots, most of which are ESB.
    The latest app version has a filter for roaming chargers and you can see the easygo only sites.

    As for the vat thing, their prices are confusing as they list exVat and including VAT prices and changed the overstay fee from ler minute to a fixed fee which nay or nay not include vat. They also have an activation fee after first 3 minutes and kWh is confusing to many anyway so most won't really know how much its going to cost until after the event.

    Some chargers they listed as free, but they were no longer free such as roaming partners ESB and ionity.

    They have touch to pay by credit card now, and the price varies depending on account type, no account and activation fee is much higher. I don't know what happens when you touch your credit card to pay but I'm sure its not free.

    They were free for a long time too :D
    I'd say I "spent" (ie free) over €100 worth of charging.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭Laviski


    ELM327 wrote: »
    They were free for a long time too :D
    I'd say I "spent" (ie free) over €100 worth of charging.

    Same here,
    Easily.......
    Despite the previous argument someone saying we would be back charged.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,335 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Laviski wrote: »
    Same here,
    Easily.......
    Despite the previous argument someone saying we would be back charged.

    That would have been me!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭innrain


    zg3409 wrote: »

    They have touch to pay by credit card now, and the price varies depending on account type, no account and activation fee is much higher. I don't know what happens when you touch your credit card to pay but I'm sure its not free.
    I saw a comment from one of the directors on FB saying that the access fee for the credit card payment is 1.5 quid but also "Contactless payment will be operational from February." my feeling is that is ex VAT as well


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,335 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    €1.50?! wow


  • Moderators Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    ELM327 wrote: »
    €1.50?! wow

    sign up I guess. It's free, and saves >€1 a go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,335 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Yes, I have already signed up months ago. I just naively assumed you could pay by contactless without penalty.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Easy go have announced that they are fitting 75kw tritium chargers in 2021.

    They can load share. Haven't said if it's going to be ccs and chademo or dual ccs.

    https://www.facebook.com/177696959661158/posts/866308144133366/

    Edit, they have said that it can be dual ccs or one of both..


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,335 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Presumably if its single charger per site it will be one of each, and if theres two, the second would be dual CCS?


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Presumably if its single charger per site it will be one of each, and if theres two, the second would be dual CCS?

    Or just screw the leaf owners...

    But I agree, it's only fair to have one of each.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,335 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Easygo are a private enterprise, so I suggest they probably want everyone to charge and pay them. I think therefore the 1+1 and 2+0 CCS/Chad split makes sense.

    Doesnt affect me as I can charge on either CCS or Chad (but would prefer CCS as chad is limited to ~45kW)


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 7,792 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Presumably if its single charger per site it will be one of each, and if theres two, the second would be dual CCS?

    Yeah that's the feedback I left on their FB post.
    If installing 1 charger, then 1xCCS, 1xCHAdeMO and if installing 2, the 2nd should be dual CCS. I also said they shouldn't do load splitting like eCars, it should be first come first served, not 2nd to arrive slows down the first. If I'm plugged in and expecting my car to charge for 30 mins, it shouldn't turn to 1 hour because someone else turned up.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,659 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Easygo are a private enterprise, so I suggest they probably want everyone to charge and pay them. I think therefore the 1+1 and 2+0 CCS/Chad split makes sense.

    Doesnt affect me as I can charge on either CCS or Chad (but would prefer CCS as chad is limited to ~45kW)

    Is your S not limited to same level on CCS when using a 50kW charger, pretty the S is (cell voltage)

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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 7,792 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    slave1 wrote: »
    Is your S not limited to same level on CCS when using a 50kW charger, pretty the S is (cell voltage)

    I wouldn't say that the car is limited in that case as it's maxing out the charger capability, the EasyGo post is talking about 75kW chargers.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,659 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Ah 75, on phone so didn’t scroll back, bit strange 75, 50 to 100 seems more logical.
    Anyhow, progress on any front is to be welcomed

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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,335 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    slave1 wrote: »
    Is your S not limited to same level on CCS when using a 50kW charger, pretty the S is (cell voltage)


    Chademo is limited to 120a by the adapter, CCS is limited to around 250a by the car (currently nerfed, will be gone with the next software update, new limit expected to be >350a - or 150kW).


    120a gives a max of around 45kW, CCS gives a max of around 100kW.


    On a 50kW post, CCS is 1-2kW faster at the peak. On a 75+ kW, then of course CCS is faster.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,659 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Grand, doing my two week charge of my S right now and would love to see those rates, 7degrees outside temp and short run to charger means I peak at 33kW/89A/375v

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    When Chad is all but gone, can the units EasyGO use easily have that side replaced with a second CCS?


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 7,792 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    JohnC. wrote: »
    When Chad is all but gone, can the units EasyGO use easily have that side replaced with a second CCS?

    That's what they are reporting for the new units in the FB post.


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