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EasyGo public chargers

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭reni10


    People are used to going to petrol stations for fuel and they also have shops and food and things like that there and there are a hell of a lot of them too!

    Slow chargers are for places like hotels and shopping centres as you are usually there for a while but if you just want to grab that 10 min high speed charge to get you to the next town or whatever then the petrol stations are already conveniently located across almost all routes on the island so make perfect sense to me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭Fingleberries


    Familiarity will also be key to adoption. People are used to filling up at the petrol station. Petrol stations need to adapt and have extra value services there and they could pick up extra impulse spend (snacks, carton of milk, etc.) from someone who is there for 10-15 mins quick charge that they might not have gotten from a petrol / diesel customer.


    I saw that Maxol were looking to spend €90m over the next decade to electrify their forecourts. Maybe a mutually beneficial partnership could help both companies here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭innrain


    Just tested the new charger installed at Lidl Boghal road, Bray. It is an ABB triple as shown in their app. Reached 50kW which I never with the Tritium units. Price is a bit lower than standard Easygo which I think are subsidies by Lidl.

    https://www.plugshare.com/location/344226



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Thats a brilliant charger..... look at the length of the cables!! I bet they reach any charge port in any EV, parked in either of the 2 spaces...



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,114 ✭✭✭pad199207


    EasyGO at New Starbucks Naas



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭innrain


    Indeed the cables are very long. It accepts credit cards pin and tap. Hopefully we'll see more of these. I was bit less than 50% when started and in 30 mins in Lidl got to 80%. That's the way to go.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    that's what you want at a grocery store charger, to plug in, and leave in 20-30 minutes with battery close to full..... I used to plug into my local Tesco AC when it was free, and maybe pick up 8-10% in the time I was there!!



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    New Lidl in Lusk, NCD opened today and they have an EasyGo DC charger onsite supporting CCS & CHAdeMO......


    Well done Lidl & EasyGO.... these are the chargers that should be located at grocery stores.... not AC chargers!!

    Post edited by AndyBoBandy on


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,546 ✭✭✭zg3409


    50kW going into mallow co cork today.

    Go easygo!

    See plugshare app for details.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭sh81722


    Those fuses look beefy. Great stuff, go EasyGo!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,316 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Another SPOF though. Pointless.



  • Moderators Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Perfection is the enemy of progress. Would you rather no unit be installed between Cork and Limerick? Nothing to say that route would sustain multiple units financially. I'd rather see EasyGo follow the data and add units at busy locations, rather than waste money blinding installing units anywhere.

    Sounds like (from the talk of reinstating the AC unit at 7kW only) that power supply is a constraint on site.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭innrain


    Ir looks different than the other Tritium we have. I wonder if this is not the 75kW promised long time ago. Can't really read the labels but it seems everything grouped in bunches of 3. The 2 steep boxed could be the cooling and low voltage supply (based on missing high voltage label)



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,316 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I'd rather double up at existing locations. I make a habit of where possible only charging at sites that have 2 or more DC chargers. So - kilcullen, mayfield, kells would be the usual from ecars as well as Ionity or Tesla sites.

    One DC charger at a supervalue is no use to someone on a long journey and is instead actually useful for a local with no home charger so he can charge in an hour while doing shopping.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,316 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    It's a 75kW unit alright, limited by supply constraints to 50kW apparently



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,546 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Live already!



  • Registered Users Posts: 782 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Wonder if they can load balance at other locations 50kW:25kW like the Tritium in Bjorn's video of the Nordic EV Summit.

    Pic above of charger with door open the three shiny cases are 25kW modules and the two galv cases are rectifiers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,233 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Better than having none. Also with multiple chargers the line will be a SPOF.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Felexicon




  • Moderators Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    That's EasyGos contract though. Musgrave group stores and the old eir phone boxes.


    EasyGo don't exactly have a lot of units they can double up on either, and as you say their locations aren't great for long journeys so less throughput financially.


    Test the waters, get the usage patterns and increase supply based on that. ESB should be doing this since they've all the raw data, yet they've put hubs in ballinlack, Kells and Carrick on Shannon which have very little use for one unit, nevermind 2.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    ^^ I guess we know where the EV driving higher ups of eCars have family located….



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,546 ✭✭✭zg3409


    I think easygo's main issue is indeed they have very few key motorway/ main road exclusive sites. They also have a major issue where 80+% of users only have esb app, and so they blindly drive by. They did supply easygo fobs to some new EV dealers. They had a public appeal for sites, but sites on N/M roads with parking & food or services and high power nearby seem to be hard to find or easygo are having difficult getting a deal with rent etc. They suggested profit sharing, but profit would be negligable and many places don't have 2 unused spots they could reserve 24/7.

    5 or 10 hubs with room to grow would be how I would roll out if I was easygo. It would also give them a more public profile with critical sites. Problems they seem to have are funds, sites, grid connections, profitability of existing sites. They seem to be heading the right direction. Some of the lidls now have 50kW chargers, some easygo branded sites are relatively close to national roads, I for one try to use their 50kW+ sites particularly as they tend t ok be quiet / not in use. They also have the not so insignificant issue of ESB competition and possibly low ESB pricing and ESB already having taken exclusive motorway and an existing nationwide network in all 32 counties. They also have ionity and Tesla to take other key users and heavy mileage users. Both ionity and Tesla are not funded fairly compared to easygo, and esb ecars got at least 50% funding and first mover advantage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,316 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    If I were easygo there's absolutely no point trying to mimic ecars's rollout - that wouldnt work without the subsidy.

    They were on to something with the 22kW AC rollout as their chargers were always up and were fixed very quickly.

    Couple that with a few sites with say 3*50 kW sites instead of multiples of SPOF sites. I have their fob and I've never used it for a paid charger (except once that they charged me incorrectly and never responded to my queries).



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 7,792 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    I think easygo's main issue is indeed they have very few key motorway/ main road exclusive sites. They also have a major issue where 80+% of users only have esb app, and so they blindly drive by. They did supply easygo fobs to some new EV dealers. They had a public appeal for sites, but sites on N/M roads with parking & food or services and high power nearby seem to be hard to find or easygo are having difficult getting a deal with rent etc. They suggested profit sharing, but profit would be negligable and many places don't have 2 unused spots they could reserve 24/7.

    I checked two of my manufacturer charging services, the EasyGo chargers don't appear on WeCharge (VW) or MINI Charging (Digital Charging Solutions). DCS are the white label provider for a number of OEMs, so that's Hyundai, Kia, BMW, MINI and the VAG all excluded from easy charging.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,316 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    They also arent on plugsurfing or any other aggregator whereas ecars, ionity etc are



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,546 ✭✭✭zg3409


    And they worked hard to get their fob and app to work on esb, but esb don't list them, and it sounds like they are not offering roaming agreements to other apps. Even at a cost premium for roaming at least people may find the chargers. Think of even Tesla drivers may not see them listed. They have touch to pay by credit card on the newer 50kW chargers, to help users pay, but it was not working recently on one of the new ones, so it may not be really up and running yet.


    They have updated their app recently, they really need to get their act together if they intend becoming bigger than ESB ecars and driving users to their sites. Their free lidl chargers do seem somewhat popular due to "free loaders" and it seems as if Lidl are trialling 50kW chargers at their newer stores, but the ownership of the site is not easygo, and lidl could easily switch brands once the business grows.

    Last I heard if you run out of credit mid charge the session will suddenly stop, with no automatic credit top up (unlike ESB) but I think the newer app will give a warning on low credit or charge stopping.


    I have heard good and bad reports about easygo, a lot from personal experience, I do hope they prove to be real nationwide provider rather than a niche need to know



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭dloob


    Yes I think for some of their DC chargers people just don't know they are there.

    They mentioned online a while ago that the Loughrea Supervalu 36kw DC charger was not used often, but how many people even know there is a second DC Charger in the town. I suppose in the case of that one it's really for Supervalu customers anyway.

    I don't use their chargers often as any I pass aren't too far from ecars chargers which are 10c a kwh cheaper and don't have an access fee.

    The last time I used one the credit did run out and it just stopped mid charge, took me a few minutes to notice. That was over a year ago so may have changed since.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,546 ✭✭✭zg3409


    New 50kW easygo gone into Lidl tipperary town, I put it on the new charger thread too. Edited https://www.plugshare.com/location/350578

    Post edited by zg3409 on


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭innrain




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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭cannco253


    It's great to see EasyGo allowing card payments on the newer units.


    Below is from their website, what does the "host and manage" ESB 1350+ refer to - I thought eCars were responsible for their own units?

    Get On The Network

    We were Ireland’s first private and totally EV dedicated Charging Company. Our ever expanding network of EasyGo Chargers is helping Ireland transition from Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) Vehicles to Electric Vehicles (EV).

    We Host And Manage Over 2400 Chargers On The Network

    EasyGo: 1050+ | ESB: 1350+ | Circle K: 20+

     EasyGo is Ireland’s largest eMSP network (eMobility Services Provider). We have more than 15,000 Irish EV drivers that are subscribers and can access all of these chargers.



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