Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

so house parties are the new speak easys of this ERA, like the 1920's in Prohibition eh!

MadYaker

Diabhalta wrote: »

How's the restricted life in Ireland? I'm still in Czech Republic enjoying the totally unrestricted life, sipping beer at noon by the water enjoying the summer breeze...

I am definitely not looking forward to go back to that nuthouse. What a shi**y place to be right now, absolute madness. It's not the virus causing this, it's the idiots in charge and those who follow them. Here's my message to them: stfu and gtfo.

We moved out of lockdown some time ago? Weathers definitely better there alright.

firemansam4

I have generally been of the opinion that NPHET are the experts and must have the expertise to know what they are doing compared to some of us in here who are really just randomers on an Internet site.
To me the first lock down and restrictions was justified when we were seeing a surge of deaths and hospitals filling up fast.

But I have to say I'm starting to question the actions now, talk of a second lock down seems madness at the moment when there are so few cases in ICU and deaths have dropped down so low.
The whole point was to flatten the curve and stop our hospitals being over run.

There also seems to be this irrational fear in many people now about this disease. I was on another thread about schools opening up and so many people saying we should not open up schools because it's too dangerous right now.
Also getting the same vibe from listening to people calling in on a local radio station, some saying we need to lock down again before things get worse.

Hurrache

firemansam4 wrote: »

There also seems to be this irrational fear in many people now about this disease.

There's nothing irrational about the fear of the disease.
What may, or may not, be irrational is their view on how to manage themselves around it.

Idbatterim

roll on the budget! they wont give a toss here, till the effects are felt on the masses! Thats when I expect to see the screw starting to turn from the "lockdown is great" genius school of thought!

topper75

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

I'd say the Parisians will respond well to that :eek:

Turns out your assessment of Parisians is now matched by the French government who got sense at the last minute.
https://www.thejournal.ie/paris-cyclists-joggers-city-masks-5188796-Aug2020/
They've realised the folly of overstretching a stretched people.

MadYaker

There is zero public support for another lockdown amongst my friends and colleagues anyway. Some of them would have a much deeper understanding of the situation than I do. I think NPHET may recommend another lockdown but the government will dismiss it as they have done with other recommendations in the past. It really shouldn’t be necessary, not because of low cases or low ICU numbers but because we have enough other ways of controlling this now with much better testing and contact tracing etc. It would help if people stopped getting infected at house parties.

Diabhalta

MadYaker wrote: »

We moved out of lockdown some time ago? Weathers definitely better there alright.

Lockdown maybe, but what about all those stupid articles in the media? What about pubs? What about saunas? I couldn't use a sauna in Cork because it's considered high risk (according to them)?

Ireland is backwards as always. You should travel abroad to see the difference. I'm here and I'm telling you there's something extremely wrong going on in Ireland at the moment.

topper75

MadYaker wrote: »

Not sure why a knuckle dragger from the vintners association of all places feels he has anything of value to add to NPHETs advice. The human need for social interaction is causing clusters at house parties, not alcohol.

Sure if you can't reach the ball, have a go at kicking the man.

Diabhalta

Face masks in shops, now? ... GTFO of here with this stupidity.

Idbatterim

firemansam4 wrote: »

I have generally been of the opinion that NPHET are the experts and must have the expertise to know what they are doing compared to some of us in here who are really just randomers on an Internet site.
To me the first lock down and restrictions was justified when we were seeing a surge of deaths and hospitals filling up fast.

But I have to say I'm starting to question the actions now, talk of a second lock down seems madness at the moment when there are so few cases in ICU and deaths have dropped down so low.
The whole point was to flatten the curve and stop our hospitals being over run.

There also seems to be this irrational fear in many people now about this disease. I was on another thread about schools opening up and so many people saying we should not open up schools because it's too dangerous right now.
Also getting the same vibe from listening to people calling in on a local radio station, some saying we need to lock down again before things get worse.

Sorry! The word Irish and "expert" is laughable for a start. No other country knows how to turn even the simple, into the most complicated clusterfcuk! They may be "experts" in their field, but they wouldnt have a clue on broader societal implications or certainly arent advising on them. Thats where the politicians leaving a leadership and political vacuum, comes to the forefront, any way, I am sure like the last bust, we have years ahead, of analysis on why this dereliction of duty and total delusion, that this could be anything other than a temporary measure. Laughably the inquest, will be lead by the RTE farce, the same god fearing backward RTE , that has totally supported, total lockdown...

MadYaker

Diabhalta wrote: »

Lockdown Mlmaybe, but what about all those stupid articles in the media? What about pubs? What about saunas? I couldn't use a sauna in Cork because it's considered high risk (according to them)?

Ireland is backwards as always. You should travel abroad to see the difference. I'm here and I'm telling you there's something extremely wrong going on in Ireland at the moment.

I read posts like this from some of my idiot friends on social media all the time. Daily life here and there are largely the same apart from the pubs here being closed. I think saunas are allowed now but sure I don’t want to spoil your nice little fantasy, you’re absolutely right, we’re all miserable here we wish we could join you in some eastern european country with cheap beer! :pac:

Idbatterim

Deleted User wrote: »

I was in Rome last week and talked to a few locals about this. Every single one said that there is no chance of another lockdown, even in the event of a substantial increase in hospitalisations. There is a widespread acceptance across the political spectrum and the press that another lockdown will destroy the fabric of the country, and create a greater long term public health crisis than COVID.

ireland as always is years or decades behind other european countries. They will cop on to that here in the late 2020's. pretty mindblowing that they didnt follow the uk's lead, must be a first!

Diabhalta

MadYaker wrote: »

I read posts like this from some of my idiot friends on social media all the time. Daily life here and there are largely the same apart from the pubs here being closed. I think saunas are allowed now but sure I don’t want to spoil your nice little fantasy, you’re absolutely right, we’re all miserable here we wish we could join you in some eastern european country with cheap beer! :pac:

That's not true, I went to a live gig recently. How many live gigs you went to recently?

Zero.

Hysterical media and useless government are the problem.

Idbatterim

Diabhalta wrote: »

That's not true, I went to a live gig recently. How many live gigs you went to recently?

Zero.

Hysterical media and useless government are the problem.

the general population are also to blame! this mental thing called the internet, allows people to see how life is going on far more like normal, in non banana republics!

Diabhalta

Idbatterim wrote: »

ireland as always is years or decades behind other european countries. They will cop on to that here in the late 2020's. pretty mindblowing that they didnt follow the uk's lead, must be a first!

Ireland is a cuntry at the very end of Europe. There's nothing there. Can't really expect progressive thinking there.

Diabhalta

MadYaker wrote: »

I read posts like this from some of my idiot friends on social media all the time. Daily life here and there are largely the same apart from the pubs here being closed. I think saunas are allowed now but sure I don’t want to spoil your nice little fantasy, you’re absolutely right, we’re all miserable here we wish we could join you in some eastern european country with cheap beer! :pac:

and btw. It's not just about cheap beer, the beer is also good, which you can't say about that piss you get in Ireland.

And it's the mentality. There's no pandemic here anymore. People moves on. They are grown ups you know.

Poorside

Diabhalta wrote: »

and btw. It's not just about cheap beer, the beer is also good, which you can't say about that piss you get in Ireland.

And it's the mentality. There's no pandemic here anymore. People moves on. They are grown ups you know.

You obviously drink the wrong beer when you're here, some great beers knocking about, and, we get actual glasses to drink them out of.

Penfailed

TRANQUILLO wrote: »

if you cant discern what i meant from the post i made i fear we have reached an impasse.

You used an analogy with a football match to try to portray the reporting as inaccurate. Like I said, numbers are numbers.

ninebeanrows

Any idea of how many pints were drank in Dublin?

Diabhalta

Poorside wrote: »

You obviously drink the wrong beer when you're here, some great beers knocking about, and, we get actual glasses to drink them out of.

Czech beers are the only ones worth buying in Ireland.

Lol, this isn't a pub obviously. You can get beer on every corner in this country. Well you can't, but I can ))

Poorside

Diabhalta wrote: »

Czech beers are the only ones worth buying in Ireland.

Lol, this isn't a pub obviously. You can get beer on every corner in this country. Well you can't, but I can ))

I know a man that sells beer to me through a window, all hush hush

Penfailed

Idbatterim wrote: »

the general population are also to blame! this mental thing called the internet, allows people to see how life is going on far more like normal, in non banana republics!

Fintan - police state
Id - banana republic

*rolleyes*

MadYaker

Penfailed wrote: »

Fintan - police state
Id - banana republic

*rolleyes*

These people will all have breakdowns if anything worse than this ever happens.

storker

Penfailed wrote: »

Fintan - police state
Id - banana republic

*rolleyes*

You're being silly. It's obviously a police state where the police dress in banana outfits...

(Funny to see the usual suspects still engaging day in day out in hyperbole and insult...and yet accusing others of being sad people with no lives...you couldn't make it up...)

hmmm

MadYaker wrote: »

These people will all have breakdowns if anything worse than this ever happens.

Imagine trying to fight a war with this group.

"There is no war, the explosions you are seeing don't exist."
"We should simply surrender and allow the enemy to win"
"Wait till we see the cost of all these bullets we are giving our soldiers"
"I don't think it will really affect me, I'm going to opt out"
"I was talking to a senior army officer recently, and him and all his general friends are sure this war is a story made up by the government to keep the sheeple in their bunkers"

MadYaker

Diabhalta wrote: »

Czech beers are the only ones worth buying in Ireland.

Lol, this isn't a pub obviously. You can get beer on every corner in this country. Well you can't, but I can ))

During lockdown you would have had a point alright but now most places here are open again. Even during lockdown we could get takeaway pints. Monroes in Galway were driving around town pouring pints out of the back of a jeep. It was more a laugh than anything else. Masks might be a difference, mandatory indoors here now, no idea what the story is with them over there. Nice places to visit but I wouldn't move there. There is a reason that there are tens of thousands of czechs in living in Ireland and fcuk all irish living over there.

facehugger99

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Jesus. I have been a supporter of the restrictions to this point, but listening to this, it is now getting farcical. NPHET and the government and journalists like Pat Kenny are losing the run of themselves and need to take a step back.

People like yourself have the most to answer for. It's been obvious for months what is happening.

I always said by the time lockdown-cheerleaders like yourself woke up, it'd be already too late.

MadYaker

hmmm wrote: »

Imagine trying to fight a war with this group.

"There is no war, the explosions you are seeing don't exist."
"We should simply surrender and allow the enemy to win"
"Wait till we see the cost of all these bullets we are giving our soldiers"
"I don't think it will really affect me, I'm going to opt out"
"I was talking to a senior army officer recently, and him and all his general friends are sure this war is a story made up by the government to keep the sheeple in their bunkers"

Imagine what would've been posted on here if the Irish government had imposed a lockdown like in Spain. Nobody allowed out of their homes at all except one person for a shopping trip once a week, essentially under house arrest for eight weeks straight! And here we have people whinging about a police state, and they aren't even joking!

facehugger99

hmmm wrote: »

Imagine trying to fight a war with this group.

"There is no war, the explosions you are seeing don't exist."
"We should simply surrender and allow the enemy to win"
"Wait till we see the cost of all these bullets we are giving our soldiers"
"I don't think it will really affect me, I'm going to opt out"
"I was talking to a senior army officer recently, and him and all his general friends are sure this war is a story made up by the government to keep the sheeple in their bunkers"

How would you tell?

You'd be hiding under your bed for the duration if your response to this mild virus is anything to go by.