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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    Such blatant spin. Seriously what interest do you serve in trying to not compare. It's pretty simple. One was closed, one was not.
    • NZ closed border to all foreign citizens and imposed 2 week quarantine on those returning. We gave out leaflets.
    • Ports were not closed to goods.

    Dont forget NZ also tested and contact traced when it mattered the most at the very start.

    They didn't leave test swabs lying around for 2-3 weeks and then flew them to another country to be tested.

    Although they might be isolated and 2000Km from anwhere if they were in the same situation I can guarantee they would had them tested in Australia and result back with 2 days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Gynoid wrote: »
    I wonder how Belgium has suffered so badly. 11 million people, about twice our population, but nearly 9000 deaths. It's a bit of a horror story that surprisingly gets little enough attention - well, okay, attention that I personally have noticed.
    Belgium is probably about as bad as the UK, if all numbers were equal.

    Belgium's location and tourism was the issue mainly. As the EU hub, it sees a lot of in/out traffic from all over Europe, and was thus exposed to considerably more traffic from infected regions.

    Our tourist numbers are higher than Belgium's, but 60% of all our tourism comes from the UK and North America.

    Our exposure to the UK is why we were hit so hard, but our overall exposure was relatively limited compared to Belgium. Despite wailing about Italian rugby fans, we weren't flying in people from infected regions at the same level that Belgium was.

    Belgium was absolutely rife with Covid well before any measures could be taken, whereas we managed to get in relatively early.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    mandrake04 wrote: »
    Dont forget NZ also tested and contact traced when it mattered the most at the very start.

    They didn't leave test swabs lying around for 2-3 weeks and then flew them to another country to be tested.

    Although they might be isolated and 2000Km from anwhere if they were in the same situation I can guarantee they would had them tested in Australia and result back with 2 days.

    The "war" on covid 19 was won or lost in most countries in February and March. The measures they took then dictated how well they fared after that, from very good to very bad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,925 ✭✭✭GM228


    Ireland Coronavirus Statistics - Day 67 – Tuesday 05/05/2020
    All data is cumulative and based on the date of official reporting

    Day
    |
    Date
    |
    Cases
    |
    New Cases
    |
    Total Cases
    |
    Case Increase
    |
    Reporting Increase
    |
    Deaths
    |
    Probable Deaths*⁵
    |
    Total Deaths
    |
    Deaths daily increase
    |
    CFR
    |
    New Hosp
    |
    Total Hosp
    |
    Hosp %
    |
    Hosp daily increase
    |
    New ICU
    |
    Total ICU
    |
    ICU %
    |
    ICU daily increase
    |
    Recovered*³
    |
    Recovery %
    |
    Population
    | Active Cases*⁴
    1
    |
    29/02/2020
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    1
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 1
    2
    |
    01/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    0%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 1
    3
    |
    02/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    0%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 1
    4
    |
    03/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    1
    |
    2
    |
    100%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 2
    5
    |
    04/03/2020
    |
    2
    |
    4
    |
    6
    |
    200%
    |
    300%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 6
    6
    |
    05/03/2020
    |
    6
    |
    7
    |
    13
    |
    117%
    |
    75%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 13
    7
    |
    06/03/2020
    |
    13
    |
    5
    |
    18
    |
    38%
    |
    -29%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 18
    8
    |
    07/03/2020
    |
    18
    |
    1
    |
    19
    |
    6%
    |
    -80%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 19
    9
    |
    08/03/2020
    |
    19
    |
    2
    |
    21
    |
    11%
    |
    100%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 21
    10
    |
    09/03/2020
    |
    21
    |
    3
    |
    24
    |
    14%
    |
    50%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.000%
    | 24
    11
    |
    10/03/2020
    |
    24
    |
    10
    |
    34
    |
    42%
    |
    233%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.001%
    | 34
    12
    |
    11/03/2020
    |
    34
    |
    9
    |
    43
    |
    26%
    |
    -10%
    |
    1
    |
    N/A
    |
    1
    |
    N/A
    |
    2.3%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.001%
    | 42
    13
    |
    12/03/2020
    |
    43
    |
    27
    |
    70
    |
    63%
    |
    200%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    1
    |
    0%
    |
    1.4%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.001%
    | 69
    14
    |
    13/03/2020
    |
    70
    |
    20
    |
    90
    |
    29%
    |
    -26%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    1
    |
    0%
    |
    1.1%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.002%
    | 89
    15
    |
    14/03/2020
    |
    90
    |
    39
    |
    129
    |
    43%
    |
    95%
    |
    1
    |
    N/A
    |
    2
    |
    100%
    |
    1.6%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.003%
    | 127
    16
    |
    15/03/2020
    |
    129
    |
    40
    |
    169
    |
    31%
    |
    3%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    2
    |
    0%
    |
    1.2%
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    N/A
    |
    NR
    |
    NR
    |
    0.003%
    | 167
    17
    |
    16/03/2020
    |
    169
    |
    54
    |
    223
    |
    32%
    |
    35%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    2
    |
    0%
    |
    0.9%
    |
    84
    |
    84
    |
    38%
    |
    N/A
    |
    84
    |
    6
    |
    3%
    |
    N/A
    |
    5
    |
    2%
    |
    0.005%
    | 216
    18
    |
    17/03/2020
    |
    223
    |
    69
    |
    292
    |
    31%
    |
    28%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    2
    |
    0%
    |
    0.7%
    |
    24
    |
    108
    |
    37%
    |
    29%
    |
    1
    |
    7
    |
    2%
    |
    17%
    |
    5
    |
    2%
    |
    0.006%
    | 285
    19
    |
    18/03/2020
    |
    292
    |
    74
    |
    366
    |
    25%
    |
    7%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    2
    |
    0%
    |
    0.5%
    |
    32
    |
    140
    |
    38%
    |
    30%
    |
    5
    |
    12
    |
    3%
    |
    71%
    |
    5
    |
    1%
    |
    0.007%
    | 359
    20
    |
    19/03/2020
    |
    366
    |
    191
    |
    557
    |
    52%
    |
    158%
    |
    1
    |
    N/A
    |
    3
    |
    50%
    |
    0.5%
    |
    33
    |
    173
    |
    31%
    |
    24%
    |
    1
    |
    13
    |
    2%
    |
    8%
    |
    5
    |
    1%
    |
    0.011%
    | 549
    21
    |
    20/03/2020
    |
    557
    |
    126
    |
    683
    |
    23%
    |
    -34%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    3
    |
    0%
    |
    0.4%
    |
    38
    |
    211
    |
    31%
    |
    22%
    |
    4
    |
    17
    |
    2%
    |
    31%
    |
    5
    |
    1%
    |
    0.014%
    | 675
    22
    |
    21/03/2020
    |
    683
    |
    102
    |
    785
    |
    15%
    |
    -19%
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    3
    |
    33%
    |
    0.4%
    |
    28
    |
    239
    |
    30%
    |
    13%
    |
    8
    |
    25
    |
    3%
    |
    47%
    |
    5
    |
    1%
    |
    0.016%
    | 777
    23
    |
    22/03/2020
    |
    785
    |
    121
    |
    906
    |
    15%
    |
    19%
    |
    1
    |
    N/A
    |
    4
    |
    33%
    |
    0.4%
    |
    38
    |
    277
    |
    31%
    |
    16%
    |
    11
    |
    36
    |
    4%
    |
    44%
    |
    5
    |
    1%
    |
    0.018%
    | 897
    24
    |
    23/03/2020
    |
    906
    |
    219
    |
    1125
    |
    24%
    |
    81%
    |
    2
    |
    N/A
    |
    6
    |
    50%
    |
    0.5%
    |
    28
    |
    305
    |
    27%
    |
    10%
    |
    3
    |
    39
    |
    3%
    |
    8%
    |
    5
    |
    0%
    |
    0.023%
    | 1114
    25
    |
    24/03/2020
    |
    1125
    |
    204
    |
    1329
    |
    18%
    |
    -7%
    |
    1
    |
    N/A
    |
    7
    |
    17%
    |
    0.5%
    |
    35
    |
    340
    |
    26%
    |
    11%
    |
    8
    |
    47
    |
    4%
    |
    21%
    |
    5
    |
    0%
    |
    0.027%
    | 1317
    26
    |
    25/03/2020
    |
    1329
    |
    235
    |
    1564
    |
    18%
    |
    15%
    |
    2
    |
    N/A
    |
    9
    |
    29%
    |
    0.6%
    |
    79
    |
    419
    |
    27%
    |
    23%
    |
    12
    |
    59
    |
    4%
    |
    26%
    |
    5
    |
    0%
    |
    0.032%
    | 1550
    27
    |
    26/03/2020
    |
    1564
    |
    255
    |
    1819
    |
    16%
    |
    9%
    |
    10
    |
    N/A
    |
    19
    |
    111%
    |
    1%
    |
    70
    |
    489
    |
    27%
    |
    17%
    |
    8
    |
    67
    |
    4%
    |
    14%
    |
    5
    |
    0%
    |
    0.037%
    | 1795
    28
    |
    27/03/2020
    |
    1819
    |
    302
    |
    2121
    |
    17%
    |
    18%
    |
    3
    |
    N/A
    |
    22
    |
    16%
    |
    1%
    |
    75
    |
    564
    |
    27%
    |
    15%
    |
    10
    |
    77
    |
    4%
    |
    15%
    |
    5
    |
    0%
    |
    0.043%
    | 2094
    29
    |
    28/03/2020
    |
    2121
    |
    294
    |
    2415
    |
    14%
    |
    -3%
    |
    14
    |
    N/A
    |
    36
    |
    64%
    |
    1.5%
    |
    81
    |
    645
    |
    27%
    |
    14%
    |
    7
    |
    84
    |
    3%
    |
    9%
    |
    5
    |
    0%
    |
    0.049%
    | 2374
    30
    |
    29/03/2020
    |
    2415
    |
    200
    |
    2615
    |
    8%
    |
    -32%
    |
    10
    |
    N/A
    |
    46
    |
    28%
    |
    1.8%
    |
    58
    |
    703
    |
    27%
    |
    9%
    |
    29
    |
    113
    |
    4%
    |
    35%
    |
    5
    |
    0%
    |
    0.053%
    | 2564
    31
    |
    30/03/2020
    |
    2615
    |
    295
    |
    2910
    |
    11%
    |
    48%
    |
    8
    |
    N/A
    |
    54
    |
    17%
    |
    1.9%
    |
    131
    |
    834
    |
    29%
    |
    19%
    |
    13
    |
    126
    |
    4%
    |
    12%
    |
    5
    |
    0%
    |
    0.059%
    | 2851
    32
    |
    31/03/2020
    |
    2910
    |
    325
    |
    3235
    |
    11%
    |
    10%
    |
    17
    |
    N/A
    |
    71
    |
    31%
    |
    2.2%
    |
    98
    |
    932
    |
    29%
    |
    12%
    |
    8
    |
    134
    |
    4%
    |
    6%
    |
    25
    |
    1%
    |
    0.066%
    | 3139
    33
    |
    01/04/2020
    |
    3235
    |
    212
    |
    3447
    |
    7%
    |
    -35%
    |
    14
    |
    N/A
    |
    85
    |
    20%
    |
    2.5%
    |
    107
    |
    1039
    |
    30%
    |
    11%
    |
    14
    |
    148
    |
    4%
    |
    10%
    |
    25
    |
    1%
    |
    0.070%
    | 3337
    34
    |
    02/04/2020
    |
    3447
    |
    402
    |
    3849
    |
    12%
    |
    90%
    |
    13
    |
    N/A
    |
    98
    |
    15%
    |
    2.5%
    |
    79
    |
    1118
    |
    29%
    |
    8%
    |
    10
    |
    158
    |
    4%
    |
    7%
    |
    25
    |
    1%
    |
    0.078%
    | 3726
    35
    |
    03/04/2020
    |
    3849
    |
    424
    |
    4273
    |
    11%
    |
    5%
    |
    22
    |
    N/A
    |
    120
    |
    22%
    |
    2.8%
    |
    85
    |
    1203
    |
    28%
    |
    8%
    |
    7
    |
    165
    |
    4%
    |
    4%
    |
    25
    |
    1%
    |
    0.087%
    | 4128
    36
    |
    04/04/2020
    |
    4273
    |
    331
    |
    4604
    |
    8%
    |
    -22%
    |
    17
    |
    N/A
    |
    137
    |
    14%
    |
    3.0%
    |
    62
    |
    1265
    |
    27%
    |
    5%
    |
    4
    |
    169
    |
    4%
    |
    2%
    |
    25
    |
    1%
    |
    0.094%
    | 4442
    37
    |
    05/04/2020
    |
    4604
    |
    390
    |
    4994
    |
    8%
    |
    18%
    |
    21
    |
    N/A
    |
    158
    |
    15%
    |
    3.2%
    |
    80
    |
    1345
    |
    27%
    |
    6%
    |
    25
    |
    194
    |
    4%
    |
    15%
    |
    25
    |
    1%
    |
    0.101%
    | 4811
    38
    |
    06/04/2020
    |
    4994
    |
    370
    |
    5364
    |
    7%
    |
    -5%
    |
    16
    |
    N/A
    |
    174
    |
    10%
    |
    3.2%
    |
    127
    |
    1472
    |
    27%
    |
    9%
    |
    30
    |
    224
    |
    4%
    |
    15%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.109%
    | 5165
    39
    |
    07/04/2020
    |
    5364
    |
    345
    |
    5709
    |
    6%
    |
    -7%
    |
    36
    |
    N/A
    |
    210
    |
    21%
    |
    3.7%
    |
    49
    |
    1521
    |
    27%
    |
    3%
    |
    6
    |
    230
    |
    4%
    |
    3%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.116%
    | 5474
    40
    |
    08/04/2020
    |
    5709
    |
    365
    |
    6074
    |
    6%
    |
    6%
    |
    25
    |
    N/A
    |
    235
    |
    12%
    |
    3.9%
    |
    110
    |
    1631
    |
    27%
    |
    7%
    |
    14
    |
    244
    |
    4%
    |
    6%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.123%
    | 5814
    41
    |
    09/04/2020
    |
    6074
    |
    500
    |
    6574
    |
    8%
    |
    37%
    |
    28
    |
    N/A
    |
    263
    |
    12%
    |
    4.0%
    |
    87
    |
    1718
    |
    26%
    |
    5%
    |
    9
    |
    253
    |
    4%
    |
    4%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.134%
    | 6286
    42*¹ ²
    |
    10/04/2020
    |
    6574
    |
    1515
    |
    8089
    |
    23%
    |
    203%
    |
    25
    |
    N/A
    |
    287
    |
    9%
    |
    4.0%
    |
    59
    |
    1777
    |
    22%
    |
    3%
    |
    8
    |
    261
    |
    3%
    |
    3%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.164%
    | 7777
    43*¹
    |
    11/04/2020
    |
    8089
    |
    839
    |
    8928
    |
    10%
    |
    -45%
    |
    33
    |
    N/A
    |
    320
    |
    11%
    |
    3.6%
    |
    72
    |
    1849
    |
    21%
    |
    4%
    |
    7
    |
    268
    |
    3%
    |
    3%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.181%
    | 8583
    44*¹
    |
    12/04/2020
    |
    8928
    |
    727
    |
    9655
    |
    8%
    |
    -13%
    |
    14
    |
    N/A
    |
    334
    |
    4%
    |
    3.5%
    |
    54
    |
    1903
    |
    20%
    |
    3%
    |
    7
    |
    275
    |
    3%
    |
    3%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.196%
    | 9296
    45*¹
    |
    13/04/2020
    |
    9655
    |
    992
    |
    10647
    |
    10%
    |
    36%
    |
    31
    |
    N/A
    |
    365
    |
    9%
    |
    3.4%
    |
    65
    |
    1968
    |
    18%
    |
    3%
    |
    5
    |
    280
    |
    3%
    |
    2%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.216%
    | 10257
    46*¹
    |
    14/04/2020
    |
    10647
    |
    832
    |
    11479
    |
    8%
    |
    -16%
    |
    41
    |
    N/A
    |
    406
    |
    11%
    |
    3.5%
    |
    58
    |
    2026
    |
    18%
    |
    3%
    |
    4
    |
    284
    |
    2%
    |
    1%
    |
    25
    |
    0%
    |
    0.233%
    | 11048
    47*¹
    |
    15/04/2020
    |
    11479
    |
    1068
    |
    12547
    |
    9%
    |
    28%
    |
    38
    |
    N/A
    |
    444
    |
    9%
    |
    3.5%
    |
    56
    |
    2082
    |
    17%
    |
    3%
    |
    10
    |
    294
    |
    2%
    |
    4%
    |
    77
    |
    1%
    |
    0.255%
    | 12026
    48*¹ ²
    |
    16/04/2020
    |
    12547
    |
    724
    |
    13271
    |
    6%
    |
    -32%
    |
    43
    |
    N/A
    |
    486
    |
    9%
    |
    3.7%
    |
    86
    |
    2168
    |
    16%
    |
    4%
    |
    2
    |
    296
    |
    2%
    |
    1%
    |
    77
    |
    1%
    |
    0.270%
    | 12708
    49*¹
    |
    17/04/2020
    |
    13271
    |
    709
    |
    13980
    |
    5%
    |
    -2%
    |
    44
    |
    N/A
    |
    530
    |
    9%
    |
    3.8%
    |
    55
    |
    2223
    |
    16%
    |
    3%
    |
    7
    |
    303
    |
    2%
    |
    2%
    |
    77
    |
    1%
    |
    0.284%
    | 13373
    50*¹
    |
    18/04/2020
    |
    13980
    |
    778
    |
    14758
    |
    6%
    |
    10%
    |
    41
    |
    N/A
    |
    571
    |
    8%
    |
    3.9%
    |
    49
    |
    2272
    |
    15%
    |
    2%
    |
    3
    |
    306
    |
    2%
    |
    1%
    |
    77
    |
    1%
    |
    0.300%
    | 14110
    51*¹
    |
    19/04/2020
    |
    14758
    |
    493
    |
    15251
    |
    3%
    |
    -37%
    |
    39
    |
    N/A
    |
    610
    |
    7%
    |
    4.0%
    |
    51
    |
    2323
    |
    15%
    |
    2%
    |
    9
    |
    315
    |
    2%
    |
    3%
    |
    77
    |
    1%
    |
    0.310%
    | 14564
    52
    |
    20/04/2020
    |
    15251
    |
    401
    |
    15652
    |
    3%
    |
    -19%
    |
    77
    |
    N/A
    |
    687
    |
    13%
    |
    4.4%
    |
    64
    |
    2387
    |
    15%
    |
    3%
    |
    7
    |
    322
    |
    2%
    |
    2%
    |
    77
    |
    0%
    |
    0.318%
    | 14888
    53*²
    |
    21/04/2020
    |
    15652
    |
    388
    |
    16040
    |
    2%
    |
    -3%
    |
    44
    |
    N/A
    |
    730
    |
    6%
    |
    4.6%
    |
    37
    |
    2424
    |
    15%
    |
    2%
    |
    9
    |
    331
    |
    2%
    |
    3%
    |
    9233
    |
    58%
    |
    0.326%
    | 6077
    54*²
    |
    22/04/2020
    |
    16040
    |
    631
    |
    16671
    |
    4%
    |
    63%
    |
    49
    |
    N/A
    |
    769
    |
    5%
    |
    4.6%
    |
    62
    |
    2486
    |
    15%
    |
    3%
    |
    7
    |
    338
    |
    2%
    |
    2%
    |
    9233
    |
    55%
    |
    0.339%
    | 6669
    55*²
    |
    23/04/2020
    |
    16671
    |
    936
    |
    17607
    |
    6%
    |
    48%
    |
    28
    |
    N/A
    |
    794
    |
    3%
    |
    4.5%
    |
    50
    |
    2536
    |
    14%
    |
    2%
    |
    6
    |
    344
    |
    2%
    |
    2%
    |
    9233
    |
    52%
    |
    0.358%
    | 7580
    56*²
    |
    24/04/2020
    |
    17607
    |
    577
    |
    18184
    |
    3%
    |
    -38%
    |
    37
    |
    185
    |
    1014
    |
    28%
    |
    5.6%
    |
    40
    |
    2576
    |
    14%
    |
    2%
    |
    5
    |
    349
    |
    2%
    |
    1%
    |
    9233
    |
    51%
    |
    0.369%
    | 7937
    57*²
    |
    25/04/2020
    |
    18184
    |
    377
    |
    18561
    |
    2%
    |
    -35%
    |
    42
    |
    10
    |
    1063
    |
    5%
    |
    5.7%
    |
    49
    |
    2625
    |
    14%
    |
    2%
    |
    4
    |
    353
    |
    2%
    |
    1%
    |
    9233
    |
    50%
    |
    0.377%
    | 8265
    58*²
    |
    26/04/2020
    |
    18561
    |
    701
    |
    19262
    |
    4%
    |
    86%
    |
    23
    |
    3
    |
    1087
    |
    2%
    |
    5.6%
    |
    11
    |
    2636
    |
    14%
    |
    0%
    |
    5
    |
    358
    |
    2%
    |
    1%
    |
    9233
    |
    48%
    |
    0.391%
    | 8942
    59*²
    |
    27/04/2020
    |
    19262
    |
    386
    |
    19648
    |
    2%
    |
    -45%
    |
    17
    |
    1
    |
    1102
    |
    1%
    |
    5.6%
    |
    33
    |
    2669
    |
    14%
    |
    1%
    |
    -3
    |
    355
    |
    2%
    |
    -1%
    |
    9233
    |
    47%
    |
    0.399%
    | 9313
    60*²
    |
    28/04/2020
    |
    19648
    |
    229
    |
    19877
    |
    1%
    |
    -41%
    |
    45
    |
    14
    |
    1159
    |
    5%
    |
    5.8%
    |
    37
    |
    2706
    |
    14%
    |
    1%
    |
    5
    |
    360
    |
    2%
    |
    1%
    |
    9233
    |
    46%
    |
    0.404%
    | 9485
    61
    |
    29/04/2020
    |
    19877
    |
    376
    |
    20253
    |
    2%
    |
    64%
    |
    31
    |
    0
    |
    1190
    |
    3%
    |
    5.9%
    |
    62
    |
    2768
    |
    14%
    |
    2%
    |
    7
    |
    367
    |
    2%
    |
    2%
    |
    12222
    |
    60%
    |
    0.411%
    | 6841
    62*²
    |
    30/04/2020
    |
    20253
    |
    359
    |
    20612
    |
    2%
    |
    -5%
    |
    43
    |
    0
    |
    1232
    |
    4%
    |
    6.0%
    |
    17
    |
    2785
    |
    14%
    |
    1%
    |
    1
    |
    368
    |
    2%
    |
    0.3%
    |
    12222
    |
    59%
    |
    0.419%
    | 7158
    63*²
    |
    01/05/2020
    |
    20612
    |
    221
    |
    20833
    |
    1%
    |
    -38%
    |
    34
    |
    0
    |
    1265
    |
    3%
    |
    6.1%
    |
    40
    |
    2825
    |
    14%
    |
    1%
    |
    -5
    |
    363
    |
    2%
    |
    -1%
    |
    13386
    |
    64%
    |
    0.423%
    | 6182
    64*²
    |
    02/05/2020
    |
    20833
    |
    343
    |
    21176
    |
    2%
    |
    55%
    |
    25
    |
    0
    |
    1286
    |
    2%
    |
    6.1%
    |
    15
    |
    2840
    |
    13%
    |
    1%
    |
    1
    |
    364
    |
    2%
    |
    0%
    |
    13386
    |
    63%
    |
    0.430%
    | 6504
    65*²
    |
    03/05/2020
    |
    21176
    |
    330
    |
    21506
    |
    2%
    |
    -4%
    |
    19
    |
    0
    |
    1303
    |
    1%
    |
    6.1%
    |
    39
    |
    2879
    |
    13%
    |
    1%
    |
    5
    |
    369
    |
    2%
    |
    1%
    |
    13386
    |
    62%
    |
    0.437%
    | 6817
    66
    |
    04/05/2020
    |
    21506
    |
    266
    |
    21772
    |
    1%
    |
    -19%
    |
    16
    |
    0
    |
    1319
    |
    1%
    |
    6.1%
    |
    0
    |
    2879
    |
    13%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    369
    |
    2%
    |
    0%
    |
    13386
    |
    61%
    |
    0.442%
    | 7067
    67
    |
    05/05/2020
    |
    21772
    |
    211
    |
    21983
    |
    1%
    |
    -21%
    |
    23
    |
    0
    |
    1339
    |
    2%
    |
    6.1%
    |
    0
    |
    2879
    |
    13%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    369
    |
    2%
    |
    0%
    |
    13386
    |
    61%
    |
    0.447%
    | 7258

    CFR = Case fatality rate
    NR = Not reported

    Source: Department of Health, the Health Protection Surveillance Centre and the HSE.

    NOTES: -
    *¹ Daily increase numbers on these dates represent both new cases and older cases reported from Germany which results in skewed daily % increases and average case reporting % changes, numbers are broken down as:-
    Day|Date|New Irish Cases|German Cases
    42|10/04/20|480|1035
    43|11/04/20|553|286
    44|12/04/20|430|297
    45|13/04/20| 527|465
    46|14/04/20|548|284
    47|15/04/20|657|411
    48|16/04/20|629|95
    49|17/04/20|597|112
    50|18/04/20|630|148
    51|19/04/20|445|48


    *² Denotification of deaths:-
    10/04/20 – 1
    16/04/20 – 1
    21/04/20 – 1
    22/04/20 – 10
    23/04/20 – 3
    24/04/20 – 2
    25/04/20 – 3
    26/04/20 – 2
    27/04/20 – 3 (also ICU number reduced by an unspecified amount)
    28/04/20 – 2
    30/04/20 – 1
    1/05/20 – 1
    2/05/20 – 4
    3/05/20 – 2 (also ICU number reduced by an unspecified amount)
    5/05/20 – 3

    *³ Recovered rates are not reported officially by the DoH or HPSC in the above links, these figures are taken from the Worldmeters and Johns Hopkins websites which use data supplied by the DoT to the ECDC under the WHO Guidelines for reporting.

    Recovered statistics are only be published as "recovered" following two successful tests of being clear of the virus under the WHO reporting guidelines, as a result it is likely the recovered data is skewed. Updated on 15/04/20 - The WHO reporting criteria has been changed recently to eliminate the 2 test requirement before reporting as recovered, now an outcome report is sent within one month of initial notification or when an outcome is known, the available health outcomes are either “recovered/healthy”, “not recovered", “death", “unknown" or “other", weather this helps create more accurate recovery numbers or skews them further is yet to be seen.

    *⁴ Due to the above issue with reporting of recovered cases the number of active cases is also likely skewed.

    *⁵ From 24/04/20 probable deaths are included in the official death figures, this is to comply with the WHO definition of COVID-19 deaths issued on the 16th and adopted in Europe by the ECDC yesterday, this is in compliance with what is known as the International Statistical Classification of Diseases known as the ICD-10, as a result a new column has been added into the charts to separate confirmed and suspected COVID-19 deaths – see this post for an explanation on this change. As a result of this change in reporting the CFR is skewed as a corresponding number of cumulative case numbers is not currently part of the official records.

    Case/death reporting averages:-

    Day
    | Date | ▲Day 1 | ▲10 Days | ▲7 days | ▲3 Days | .. | ■ Day 1 | ■ 10 Days | ■ 7 Days | ■ 3 days | .. |
    ● Day 1 (Day 12)
    | ● 10 Days | ■ 7 Days● | ■ 3 days
    1
    | 29/02/2020 | 0.0% | N/A | N/A | N/A | .. | 0% | N/A | N/A | N/A | .. | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A
    2
    | 01/03/2020 | 0.0% | N/A | N/A | N/A | .. | 0% | N/A | N/A | N/A | .. | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A
    3
    | 02/03/2020 | 0.0% | N/A | N/A | 0% | .. | 0% | N/A | N/A | 0% | .. | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A
    4
    | 03/03/2020 | 25.0% | N/A | N/A | 33% | .. | 0% | N/A | N/A | 0% | .. | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A
    5
    | 04/03/2020 | 60.0% | N/A | N/A | 100% | .. | 60% | N/A | N/A | 100% | .. | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A
    6
    | 05/03/2020 | 69.4% | N/A | N/A | 139% | .. | 63% | N/A | N/A | 125% | .. | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A
    7
    | 06/03/2020 | 65.0% | N/A | 65% | 118% | .. | 49% | N/A | 49% | 115% | .. | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A
    8
    | 07/03/2020 | 57.6% | N/A | 66% | 54% | .. | 33% | N/A | 38% | -11% | .. | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A
    9
    | 08/03/2020 | 52.4% | N/A | 67% | 18% | .. | 41% | N/A | 52% | -3% | .. | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A
    10
    | 09/03/2020 | 49% | 49% | 69% | 10% | .. | 42% | 42% | 59% | 23% | .. | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A
    11
    | 10/03/2020 | 48% | 53% | 61% | 22% | .. | 59% | 65% | 93% | 128% | .. | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A
    12
    | 11/03/2020 | 46% | 55% | 36% | 27% | .. | 53% | 64% | 49% | 91% | .. | 0% | N/A | N/A | N/A
    13
    | 12/03/2020 | 47% | 62% | 29% | 44% | .. | 65% | 84% | 66% | 141% | .. | 0% | N/A | N/A | N/A
    14
    | 13/03/2020 | 46% | 54% | 27% | 39% | .. | 58% | 81% | 67% | 55% | .. | 0% | N/A | N/A | N/A
    15
    | 14/03/2020 | 46% | 39% | 33% | 45% | .. | 61% | 61% | 92% | 90% | .. | 25% | N/A | N/A | 33%
    16
    | 15/03/2020 | 45% | 30% | 35% | 34% | .. | 57% | 54% | 78% | 24% | .. | 20% | N/A | N/A | 33%
    17
    | 16/03/2020 | 44% | 30% | 38% | 35% | .. | 56% | 60% | 76% | 44% | .. | 17% | N/A | N/A | 33%
    18
    | 17/03/2020 | 43% | 32% | 36% | 31% | .. | 54% | 71% | 46% | 22% | .. | 14% | N/A | 14% | 33%
    19
    | 18/03/2020 | 43% | 34% | 36% | 29% | .. | 52% | 61% | 49% | 23% | .. | 13% | N/A | 14% | 0%
    20
    | 19/03/2020 | 43% | 37% | 35% | 36% | .. | 57% | 72% | 43% | 64% | .. | 17% | N/A | 21% | 17%
    21
    | 20/03/2020 | 42% | 36% | 34% | 33% | .. | 53% | 46% | 42% | 44% | .. | 15% | 15% | 21% | 17%
    22
    | 21/03/2020 | 41% | 34% | 30% | 30% | .. | 49% | 45% | 25% | 35% | .. | 17% | 15% | 12% | 28%
    23
    | 22/03/2020 | 40% | 30% | 28% | 18% | .. | 48% | 27% | 28% | -11% | .. | 18% | 18% | 17% | 39%
    24
    | 23/03/2020 | 39% | 29% | 27% | 18% | .. | 49% | 37% | 34% | 27% | .. | 21% | 22% | 24% | 39%
    25
    | 24/03/2020 | 38% | 27% | 25% | 19% | .. | 47% | 27% | 29% | 31% | .. | 20% | 27% | 26% | 44%
    26
    | 25/03/2020 | 37% | 25% | 24% | 20% | .. | 46% | 28% | 30% | 30% | .. | 21% | 18% | 30% | 43%
    27
    | 26/03/2020 | 37% | 24% | 18% | 17% | .. | 45% | 26% | 9% | 6% | .. | 26% | 21% | 39% | 69%
    28
    | 27/03/2020 | 36% | 22% | 18% | 17% | .. | 44% | 25% | 17% | 14% | .. | 26% | 32% | 41% | 57%
    29
    | 28/03/2020 | 35% | 21% | 17% | 16% | .. | 42% | 24% | 19% | 8% | .. | 28% | 34% | 46% | 73%
    30
    | 29/03/2020 | 34% | 17% | 16% | 13% | .. | 40% | 5% | 12% | -5% | .. | 28% | 40% | 45% | 73%
    31
    | 30/03/2020 | 34% | 16% | 15% | 11% | .. | 40% | 13% | 7% | 4% | .. | 27% | 38% | 40% | 42%
    32
    | 31/03/2020 | 33% | 15% | 14% | 10% | .. | 39% | 16% | 9% | 9% | .. | 28% | 40% | 42% | 47%
    33
    | 01/04/2020 | 32% | 14% | 12% | 10% | .. | 37% | 10% | 2% | 8% | .. | 27% | 40% | 41% | 32%
    34
    | 02/04/2020 | 31% | 13% | 11% | 10% | .. | 38% | 11% | 14% | 22% | .. | 27% | 38% | 27% | 28%
    35
    | 03/04/2020 | 31% | 12% | 11% | 10% | .. | 37% | 13% | 12% | 20% | .. | 27% | 35% | 28% | 30%
    36
    | 04/04/2020 | 30% | 11% | 10% | 10% | .. | 36% | 9% | 9% | 24% | .. | 26% | 35% | 21% | 24%
    37
    | 05/04/2020 | 30% | 11% | 10% | 9% | .. | 35% | 10% | 16% | 0% | .. | 26% | 34% | 19% | 22%
    38
    | 06/04/2020 | 29% | 10% | 9% | 8% | .. | 34% | 7% | 9% | -3% | .. | 25% | 24% | 18% | 21%
    39
    | 07/04/2020 | 28% | 9% | 8% | 7% | .. | 33% | 7% | 6% | 2% | .. | 25% | 24% | 17% | 20%
    40
    | 08/04/2020 | 28% | 9% | 8% | 7% | .. | 32% | 11% | 12% | -2% | .. | 24% | 19% | 16% | 19%
    41
    | 09/04/2020 | 27% | 9% | 8% | 7% | .. | 32% | 10% | 5% | 12% | .. | 24% | 18% | 15% | 18%
    42
    | 10/04/2020 | 27% | 10% | 10% | 13% | .. | 37% | 29% | 33% | 82% | .. | 24% | 17% | 13% | 18%
    43
    | 11/04/2020 | 27% | 10% | 10% | 14% | .. | 35% | 28% | 30% | 65% | .. | 23% | 15% | 13% | 15%
    44
    | 12/04/2020 | 26% | 10% | 10% | 14% | .. | 34% | 18% | 25% | 48% | .. | 23% | 14% | 11% | 12%
    45
    | 13/04/2020 | 26% | 10% | 10% | 10% | .. | 34% | 21% | 31% | -7% | .. | 22% | 13% | 11% | 11%
    46
    | 14/04/2020 | 26% | 10% | 11% | 9% | .. | 33% | 21% | 30% | 2% | .. | 22% | 12% | 10% | 12%
    47
    | 15/04/2020 | 25% | 10% | 11% | 9% | .. | 32% | 22% | 33% | 16% | .. | 22% | 11% | 9% | 11%
    48
    | 16/04/2020 | 25% | 10% | 11% | 8% | .. | 31% | 20% | 23% | -7% | .. | 21% | 11% | 9% | 13%
    49
    | 17/04/2020 | 25% | 9% | 8% | 7% | .. | 30% | 20% | -6% | -2% | .. | 21% | 11% | 9% | 13%
    50
    | 18/04/2020 | 24% | 9% | 7% | 6% | .. | 30% | 21% | 2% | -8% | .. | 21% | 10% | 9% | 12%
    51
    | 19/04/2020 | 24% | 9% | 7% | 5% | .. | 29% | 13% | -2% | -10% | .. | 20% | 9% | 9% | 11%
    52
    | 20/04/2020 | 23% | 7% | 6% | 4% | .. | 28% | -9% | -10% | -15% | .. | 20% | 9% | 9% | 12%
    53
    | 21/04/2020 | 23% | 6% | 5% | 3% | .. | 27% | -5% | -8% | -20% | .. | 20% | 9% | 9% | 11%
    54
    | 22/04/2020 | 23% | 6% | 4% | 3% | .. | 28% | 3% | -3% | 14% | .. | 19% | 9% | 8% | 10%
    55
    | 23/04/2020 | 22% | 5% | 4% | 4% | .. | 28% | 4% | 9% | 36% | .. | 19% | 9% | 7% | 9%
    56
    | 24/04/2020 | 22% | 5% | 4% | 4% | .. | 27% | 2% | 3% | 24% | .. | 19% | 8% | 10% | 14%
    57
    | 25/04/2020 | 22% | 4% | 3% | 4% | .. | 26% | -5% | -3% | -8% | .. | 19% | 10% | 10% | 14%
    58
    | 26/04/2020 | 21% | 4% | 3% | 3% | .. | 27% | 7% | 15% | 4% | .. | 19% | 9% | 9% | 13%
    59
    | 27/04/2020 | 21% | 3% | 3% | 3% | .. | 26% | 3% | 11% | 2% | .. | 18% | 9% | 7% | 12%
    60
    | 28/04/2020 | 21% | 3% | 3% | 2% | .. | 25% | -2% | 5% | 0% | .. | 18% | 8% | 7% | 5%
    61
    | 29/04/2020 | 20% | 3% | 3% | 2% | .. | 25% | 8% | 6% | -7% | .. | 18% | 8% | 7% | 4%
    62
    | 30/04/2020 | 20% | 3% | 2% | 2% | .. | 25% | 9% | -2% | 6% | .. | 17% | 7% | 7% | 4%
    63
    | 01/05/2020 | 20% | 3% | 2% | 2% | .. | 24% | 6% | -2% | 7% | .. | 17% | 6% | 3% | 5%
    64
    | 02/05/2020 | 19% | 2% | 2% | 1% | .. | 24% | 5% | 11% | 4% | .. | 17% | 6% | 3% | 4%
    65
    | 03/05/2020 | 19% | 2% | 2% | 1% | .. | 24% | 0% | -2% | 4% | .. | 16% | 6% | 3% | 3%
    66
    | 04/05/2020 | 19% | 2% | 1% | 1% | .. | 23% | 2% | 2% | 11% | .. | 16% | 5% | 3% | 2%
    67
    | 05/05/2020 | 19% | 2% | 1% | 1% | .. | 23% | 3% | 5% | -15% | .. | 16% | 3% | 2% | 2%

    ▲ = Daily increase in cases averaged over the past 10, 7 and 3 days and from day 1
    ■ = Daily change in cases repored averaged over the past 10, 7 and 3 days and also from day 1
    ● = Daily change in deaths over the past 10, 7 and 3 days and from day 1 (which in the case of deaths was Day 12 (11/03/20)


    Northern Ireland Statistics:-

    Day
    |
    Date
    |
    Cases
    |
    New Cases
    |
    Total Cases
    |
    Case Increase
    |
    Reporting Increase
    |
    New Deaths
    |
    Total Deaths
    |
    % Increase
    |
    CFR
    | Population %
    1
    |
    29/02/2020
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    1
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.000%
    2
    |
    01/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    0%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.000%
    3
    |
    02/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    0%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.000%
    4
    |
    03/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    0
    |
    1
    |
    0%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.000%
    5
    |
    04/03/2020
    |
    1
    |
    2
    |
    3
    |
    200%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.000%
    6
    |
    05/03/2020
    |
    3
    |
    0
    |
    3
    |
    0%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.000%
    7
    |
    06/03/2020
    |
    3
    |
    1
    |
    4
    |
    33%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.000%
    8
    |
    07/03/2020
    |
    4
    |
    3
    |
    7
    |
    75%
    |
    200%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.000%
    9
    |
    08/03/2020
    |
    7
    |
    5
    |
    12
    |
    71%
    |
    67%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.001%
    10
    |
    09/03/2020
    |
    12
    |
    0
    |
    12
    |
    0%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.001%
    11
    |
    10/03/2020
    |
    12
    |
    4
    |
    16
    |
    33%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.001%
    12
    |
    11/03/2020
    |
    16
    |
    2
    |
    18
    |
    13%
    |
    -50%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.001%
    13
    |
    12/03/2020
    |
    18
    |
    2
    |
    20
    |
    11%
    |
    0%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.001%
    14
    |
    13/03/2020
    |
    20
    |
    9
    |
    29
    |
    45%
    |
    350%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.002%
    15
    |
    14/03/2020
    |
    29
    |
    5
    |
    34
    |
    17%
    |
    -44%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.002%
    16
    |
    15/03/2020
    |
    34
    |
    11
    |
    45
    |
    32%
    |
    120%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.002%
    17
    |
    16/03/2020
    |
    45
    |
    7
    |
    52
    |
    16%
    |
    -36%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.003%
    18
    |
    17/03/2020
    |
    52
    |
    10
    |
    62
    |
    19%
    |
    43%
    |
    0
    |
    0
    |
    N/A
    |
    N/A
    | 0.003%
    19
    |
    18/03/2020
    |
    62
    |
    6
    |
    68
    |
    10%
    |
    -40% [


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    seamus wrote: »
    Belgium is probably about as bad as the UK, if all numbers were equal.

    Belgium's location and tourism was the issue mainly. As the EU hub, it sees a lot of in/out traffic from all over Europe, and was thus exposed to considerably more traffic from infected regions.

    Our tourist numbers are higher than Belgium's, but 60% of all our tourism comes from the UK and North America.

    Our exposure to the UK is why we were hit so hard, but our overall exposure was relatively limited compared to Belgium. Despite wailing about Italian rugby fans, we weren't flying in people from infected regions at the same level that Belgium was.

    Belgium was absolutely rife with Covid well before any measures could be taken, whereas we managed to get in relatively early.

    I wonder what antibody sample testing would show in Belgium. You'd have to assume a huge proportion of the population has already been infected. I know Luxembourg are planning to either test their entire population but not sure if there are any plans for Belgium.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    The "war" on covid 19 was won or lost in most countries in February and March. The measures they took then dictated how well they fared after that, from very good to very bad.

    Yes I agree those actions made the difference, but like I said testing from the very start is crucial.

    If you are not testing you dont know where you are...you dont know if you are coming or going or Martha or fucking Arthur


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 379 ✭✭Mike3287


    Polar101 wrote: »
    Yeah, obviously it would be great if what we had in March-April was the "next, worse wave". More discoveries will be made, and then we'll have a better idea on what went on.

    True

    Ya I would be thinking like that

    This could be the 2nd wave

    It could have spreaded silently for months until enough got sick that we noticed.

    We will know soon enough


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 379 ✭✭Mike3287


    The wife of the Paris case from December 27th worked at Charles de Gaulle Airport. 3 direct Air France flights from Wuhan landed in Charles de Gaulle Airport every week in December. I think this fact supports that it was an initial slow spread out of Wuhan rather than it being widespread in Europe long before February

    For that 1 case yeah

    Where did the other millions of Wuhan passengers fly to?

    25 million passengers a year fly out of there, they are saying 5 million flew out before lockdown, mad numbers

    What are the odds a mild highly contagious disease only arrived in Paris?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    growleaves wrote: »
    It is ideology that makes openness "inevitable".

    This is it.

    Why didn't the virus cross the road?

    Because nobody was crossing to take it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/behind-closed-doors-frances-coronavirus-death-toll-likely-to-jump

    French death toll likely to rise by around 9,000 as people who died at home from COVID will be added along with hospital deaths and nursing home deaths


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭Redo91


    Define essential?
    I essentially need a break from this. I'm in a young age bracket and less likely to be a burden on the system.
    I found some great deals on airbnb from distressed short term landlords.
    Who's gonna stop me?

    What’s the point though? Everything is shut over there so what are you going to do as a tourist? Even if flights and accommodation are cheap it’s a waste of money and pointless. Up to you obviously but I don’t see the point.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,682 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I'm in a young age bracket and less likely to be a burden on the system.

    You may infect someone that isn't. You know pandemic?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Boggles wrote: »
    It's hardly surprising.

    The stiff upper lip pandemic response was never a runner.

    Made a complete balls off it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,432 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    seamus wrote: »
    For the most part people will recognise that these measures were taken in the interests of preserving life, based on the best available information at the time. Expecting perfection in decision-making is not reasinable and the Irish public do not place short-term financial stability above public health.

    Aside from a few malcontents who think that the economy is the most important thing in the world, nobody is going to care about the covid payment, the private hospital payments or the fact that the kids missed out on 3 months of school. These are small things in the grand scheme with no long-term impacts.

    Its very naive to think there won't be a long term economic effect of this


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,867 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Boggles wrote: »
    You may infect someone that isn't. You know pandemic?

    You weren't actually thinking this virus will die out, were you? Most of the world's population will be infected at some point in the next several years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,803 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Spanish deaths have increased slightly in recent days, from 164 on Monday to 185 yesterday, and 244 today.

    https://www.eldiario.es/sociedad/fallecimientos-espana-coronavirus_0_1024347603.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    INMO Trolley Watch figures for May 6th 2020

    47 beds short in Irish hospitals today, the numbers creeping up gradually.

    https://www.inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Distribution of laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the EU/EEA and the UK, as of 6 May 2020 @ 08:00 hrs. CET

    novel-coronavirus-cases-EU-UK-2020-05-06.png?itok=75mTYIJz

    Trend continuing downwards in daily reported cases in Europe, the UK contributing the most cases today.

    Larger clickable version here :- https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    wakka12 wrote: »
    https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/behind-closed-doors-frances-coronavirus-death-toll-likely-to-jump

    French death toll likely to rise by around 9,000 as people who died at home from COVID will be added along with hospital deaths and nursing home deaths

    9k is a lot to die at home. I wonder why they didn't attend hospitals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Redo91 wrote: »
    What’s the point though? Everything is shut over there so what are you going to do as a tourist? Even if flights and accommodation are cheap it’s a waste of money and pointless. Up to you obviously but I don’t see the point.

    Not quite. London's food scene is out of this world. So many places to try....
    I quite like the idea of wondering the deserted streets and lazying in sunny parks. Breathing it all in.

    https://london.eater.com/2020/3/16/21181466/coronavirus-uk-latest-london-restaurant-bar-closures-measures.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    9k is a lot to die at home. Have I read that right.
    Yep I remember them saying whole back they didn't really know the extent because many were just staying and home and died there


    Mr Jacques Battistoni, president of France's National Union of General Practitioners, said his organisation estimated that at least 9,000 people had died of Covid-19 at home. He said that was based on one in every six of France's 55,000 general practitioners reporting at least one suspected Covid-19 death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Yep I remember them saying whole back they didn't really know the extent because many were just staying and home and died there


    Mr Jacques Battistoni, president of France's National Union of General Practitioners, said his organisation estimated that at least 9,000 people had died of Covid-19 at home. He said that was based on one in every six of France's 55,000 general practitioners reporting at least one suspected Covid-19 death.

    Yes. It seems mad to me. If my relatives deteriorated badly I'd be phoning for an ambulance. I can understand a few but 9k is a quarter of their deaths.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭ChelseaRentBoy


    Gynoid wrote: »
    I wonder how Belgium has suffered so badly. 11 million people, about twice our population, but nearly 9000 deaths. It's a bit of a horror story that surprisingly gets little enough attention - well, okay, attention that I personally have noticed.

    Crazy stats but yeah get's next to no coverage compared to say the US and Trump.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭ChelseaRentBoy


    Spanish deaths have increased slightly in recent days, from 164 on Monday to 185 yesterday, and 244 today.

    https://www.eldiario.es/sociedad/fallecimientos-espana-coronavirus_0_1024347603.html

    Absolutely no surprise there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Crazy stats but yeah get's next to no coverage compared to say the US and Trump.

    Yeh it's odd. All media attention is generally focused on Italy and Spain as well when Belgium is by far the hardest hit in Europe. Uk will also likely very soon overtake them both in number of deaths per capita. Fairly little attention given to the situation in Paris as well yet at least 6300 people have died there, with thousands of others unaccounted for at home as well apparently, most of the home deaths apparently occurred in poor suburbs of Paris


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Yes. It seems mad to me. If my relatives deteriorated badly I'd be phoning for an ambulance. I can understand a few but 9k is a quarter of their deaths.

    I remember they were shuttling patients to other hospitals because they were filling up . I can't remember if all hospitals reached capacity.
    We have seen it where people just succumbed in a couple of days, add that and people not wanting to burden the hospitals more it could happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08


    So in a pandemic a major retailer has a half price clothing sale?

    And the amount of extra people queueing just to look at clothes?

    I'm furious for the staff.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    deise08 wrote: »
    So in a pandemic a major retailer has a half price clothing sale?

    And the amount of extra people queueing just to look at clothes?

    I'm furious for the staff.

    Who's this?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Nothing to see here so. Yeah there is nothing we could have done.
    Have to go now I'm just in the middle of booking my weekend break to London. I fancy a bit of break. Life is too short anyway.

    Hopefully I don't come back with more than I left! Wonder how many cases that will cause if I return just when restrictions are easing.........


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    Pity you didn't make this flight from Santiago in Chile with 1300 cases yesterday to Aukland, New Zealand
    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/la1201


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,971 ✭✭✭threeball


    Crazy stats but yeah get's next to no coverage compared to say the US and Trump.

    The Belgians didn't seem to be actually going out of their way to make a bad situation worse. Yes they got hit hard but it wasn't through negligence, they're more comparable to the Italians.

    The focus is on Trump because he doesn't give a fcuk about anyone but himself and getting re-elected. That's the difference.


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