CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

screamer

Seamai wrote: »

Ultimately it will be the deaths that people will remember, not the number of cases in relation to other countries.

Even just comparing deaths, countries have different methods of reporting or deciding what is and what isn’t a death attributable to covid19.
For this reason I think these country comparisons are a total waste of time.

Ace2007

deaglan1 wrote: »

Make of it what you will - when it comes to countries of comparative sizes & populations, we are not doing very well.

But something that has been said hundreds of times over, every country is reporting differently, I think Ireland is one of the few countries from the get go including deaths outside hospitals - in nursing homes for instance - so our numbers are going to be higher.

speckle

Nonoperational wrote: »

Well, I'll be taking a forced 2 weak break from the hospital. Pretty gutting but hopefully back in action asap.

Stay well. Hope you get back rested and raring to go. edit; just seen 2nd message, hopefully you will be one of the 80% and doctor yourself at home.

AdrianG08

How is worldometer show a figure of 1500 new cases for us today?

Away With The Fairies

New Home wrote: »

They could be for essential/critical staff who can't go home. Wild guess on my part, though.

I'd like to think this as well but hostels as well. They wouldn't be sharing rooms.

BanditLuke

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/intelligence/491712-us-intelligence-warned-in-november-that-virus-spreading

U.S. intelligence officials warned in November that the coronavirus spreading in China’s Hubei region could become a “cataclysmic event,” ABC News reported Wednesday.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease_X

easypazz

deaglan1 wrote: »

Make of it what you will - when it comes to countries of comparative sizes & populations, we are not doing very well.

Apart from nursing homes we have about 150 dead, if that is doing bad, then what is all the fuss about?

Ace2007

smelly sock wrote: »

Best of luck over there.

Suppose to be travelling to Lanzarote in July. Whats your thoughts on tourism in spain this year?

You rely to a post, where the poster says he doesn't think Spain will exist in a few months, and then ask him about Spanish tourism this year?:eek:

Bannasidhe

smelly sock wrote: »

And they are all getting paid. And chose the job. I have the height of respect for them but some are just short of beatifying them.

Respect in a suck it up and do the job you get paid for kinda way - gotcha

Next time there is a major gorse fire - like the ones we had recently (e.g. https://www.thejournal.ie/fire-killarney-national-park-5061442-Mar2020/) why don't you go tell the firefighters they are being paid so shut up looking for any brownie points.
Maybe tell any medic in burn units too.


And no-one said anything about beatifying - I said risking setting swathes of the fecking countryside on fire is a bloody stupid thing to do. And it is particularly stupid when we need the emergency services for other very important roles - like those ambulances the fire services use to bring really ill people to hospital.
It is beyond ironic when the 'reason' is to honour frontline workers.

moceri

Logan Roy wrote: »

Those "room one left" etc. comments are fake.

According to the consumer watchdog, five out of 10 of Booking.com's "only 1 room left on our site" claims failed to give an accurate picture of availability.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49740143

It would be interesting to see if it was possible to make a booking (and cancel it afterwards). This morning, Airbnb allowed me make a reservation for a room in a host`s house in Sutton for this weekend (which I cancelled afterwards)

tobefrank321

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Ryan Tubridy just had a mild cough. I don't understand how people are getting it worse.

Kenny Dalglish has tested positive with no symptoms. Probably many more like him.

Some experts have made a link to viral load. So if someone touched an infected door handle they get a mild version. Whereas a medical professional with inadequate PPE who is coughed on might get a far higher viral load and a severe form.

Quantum Erasure

Deleted User wrote: »

Fair to middling. Is it going to rain?

fritzelly

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Do we know the correct true number waiting on tests in ROI?

It's in line with international standards and we are testing those that need testing

/s

ceadaoin.

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Kenny Dalglish has tested positive with no symptoms. Probably many more like him.

Some experts have made a link to viral load. So if someone touched an infected door handle they get a mild version. Whereas a medical professional with inadequate PPE who is coughed on might get a far higher viral load and a severe form.

Why was he tested with no symptoms?

r93kaey5p2izun

RobertKK wrote: »

They added in figures for retirement homes that had not been added before now and not from the previous 24 hours, the real figure is 114.

I mean their overall figures. Not today's. Over 3000 dead. Over 1000 critical. Shocking.

rm212

My Norwegian partner was just reading an article from back home and translated it for me; Sweden is using animal anaesthetic due to shortages of human anaesthetic for ventilation patients in ICU... for those who have said we should have followed Sweden’s model because it’s so perfect. Sh*ts hitting the fan there, hospitals are starting to struggle

BanditLuke

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Why was he tested with no symptoms?

He was in for another procedure and they teated him.

Professor Moriarty

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Kenny Dalglish has tested positive with no symptoms. Probably many more like him.

Some experts have made a link to viral load. So if someone touched an infected door handle they get a mild version. Whereas a medical professional with inadequate PPE who is coughed on might get a far higher viral load and a severe form.

So a vaccine....

Blanco100

AdrianG08 wrote: »

How is worldometer show a figure of 1500 new cases for us today?

Noticed this myself, when did it jump to over 8000 cases?

Caquas

Here’s the Taoiseach’s statement today announcing another three weeks of shutdown.

Why? “ medical experts”.

What’s the plan? Nada.

This decision was probably unavoidable but the Taoiseach must give leadership, show vision, explain how we will get out of this disaster. Not “here’s what the doctors ordered” so let’s sit around while the economy vanishes before our eyes.

What will happen on the 6th. of May? No clue. My guess? Fiddly changes relaxing some restrictions because we’ll all be ready to revolt. But our economy will be destroyed by June.

http://https://www.gov.ie/en/speech/a7249f-speech-by-the-taoiseach-with-update-on-latest-covid-19-public-health/

Deliciously fact-free and now with two bonus Seamus Heaney quotes. (Guess which one is genuine?)

sideswipe

sideswipe wrote: »

I need a drink......

Well that didn’t help much.......the question now is keep drinking or go to bed?

KiKi III

Blanco100 wrote: »

Noticed this myself, when did it jump to over 8000 cases?

We’ve been through this at least twice.

480 - today’s figure

The rest have been backdated to the date the test swabs were taken as they were then sent to Germany for the results.

splinter65

Hector Savage wrote: »

Sorry, I'm living in Spain - the epicentre of this ****ing ****.

Very likely the country won't exist in the next few months and ill be dead myself, I wish I could go back to Ireland - linear growth and seems to be well under control.

My brother lives in France and he agrees with you. He says Spain and Italy are f**ked for good now. He’s had the virus and was very sick for a week and on two or three days he thought his goose was cooked but he’s better now. He never went near the hospital.

owlbethere

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

So a vaccine....

LOL

I wonder does Ryan have any indication of how he was exposed?

I read tobefranks bit and I'm thinking if there's any way I could get this in a controlled environment. I think I would do it.

Professor Moriarty

owlbethere wrote: »

LOL

I wonder does Ryan have any indication of how he was exposed?

I read tobefranks bit and I'm thinking if there's any way I could get this in a controlled environment. I think I would do it.

Absolutely. But we'll let a few others try it out first.

tobefrank321

easypazz wrote: »

Apart from nursing homes we have about 150 dead, if that is doing bad, then what is all the fuss about?

We are just about keeping a lid on this with a lockdown.

What do you think happens when we lift that lockdown?

Do you think a lockdown is sustainable longterm, economically? Or socially in terms of people wanting to visit friends or relatives?

The numbers are still high and Holohan and Nolan admitted they are only catching about 50% of cases.

I don't think realistically there is the slightest hope of restrictions being eased anytime soon. If anything they could get more restrictive.

Seamai

KiKi III wrote: »

We’ve been through this at least twice.

480 - today’s figure

The rest have been backdated to the date the test swabs were taken as they were then sent to Germany for the results.

So that means our actual increase today from 7609 (yesterday's total plus the 1035 older German results) to 8089 means we had 6.3% of an increase.

JP Liz V1

fritzelly wrote: »

It's in line with international standards and we are testing those that need testing

/s

The criteria changed but still testing back log yet test centres closed as not enough for testing, what am I missing, is our testing fcuked up, a mess

owlbethere

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Absolutely. But we'll let a few others try it out first.

If there's any Irish labs who wants anyone for testing or to behave like a guinea pig for them, or whatever, I'm willing to do it. If I could get a low dose of this in a controlled setting, I will do it. It might be a way out from getting a bad dose of this.

JP Liz V1

easypazz wrote: »

Apart from nursing homes we have about 150 dead, if that is doing bad, then what is all the fuss about?

Is 150 the number dead from nursing homes?