Pubs when/will they re-open - the Megathread

landofthetree

Bump!

dotsman

Just 2 weeks to go (and about 3 months too late!)

http://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0908/1163832-covid-cabinet-pubs/

py2006

Whats the story with sports being shown at the moment? Some pubs have tvs on and advertise what game is upcoming on social media and some have their tvs off claiming they aint allowed have them on.

Also, will that rule continue on Sept 21?

Irish Aris

py2006 wrote: »

Whats the story with sports being shown at the moment? Some pubs have tvs on and advertise what game is upcoming on social media and some have their tvs off claiming they aint allowed have them on.

Also, will that rule continue on Sept 21?

I've been to 4 different pubs/sports bar (with food) since they reopened - in all of them to watch football matches.
In all cases when we booked the table we added a note in the booking that we would like to watch such and such match - and in all cases we were given a table in front of a screen.
All other rules applied: social distancing, food ordering, time limit - although they are a bit more lenient and allow 2 hours as a football match would usually go a few minutes over the 105 minutes that are officially allowed.

punisher5112

So unfortunately my prediction was right....

So many jobs gone for 6 months is ridiculous, we will pay for this for the next 10 years at least.

If they had of sent in people properly trained to look after the elderly and in hospitals we would never have had the numbers.

They were way too late at doing anything and nothing has changed, we have absolute numpties in power.

landofthetree

Hugh O'Connell
September 08 2020 05:53 PM
'WET' pubs may not be allowed to reopen as planned from September 21 and other businesses may also be forced to close if the Covid-19 situation worsens in the coming days, the Government has admitted.

Well that went well.

punisher5112

landofthetree wrote: »

Hugh O'Connell
September 08 2020 05:53 PM
'WET' pubs may not be allowed to reopen as planned from September 21 and other businesses may also be forced to close if the Covid-19 situation worsens in the coming days, the Government has admitted.

Well that went well.

More so in Dublin and Limerick I believe.

Numbers high but no deaths......

tobefrank321

landofthetree wrote: »

Hugh O'Connell
September 08 2020 05:53 PM
'WET' pubs may not be allowed to reopen as planned from September 21 and other businesses may also be forced to close if the Covid-19 situation worsens in the coming days, the Government has admitted.

Well that went well.

Apart from maybe a delay in Dublin and Limerick, if they don't allow the opening of pubs on September 21st no-one will believe a word out of their mouths again.

At this stage they've no choice but to open them.

Poor_old_gill

Delaying the opening of pubs in Dublin/Limerick due to a spike in cases is pointless

Once you open them there is going to be a spike anyway so you are just kicking the can down the road- if we want things to open back up then we are going to have to live with cases.

And they need to stop this bullsh*t of announcing the number of cases every day.

It’s been a solid 6 months of fear mongering now- most people are over it

inthenip

py2006 wrote: »

Whats the story with sports being shown at the moment? Some pubs have tvs on and advertise what game is upcoming on social media and some have their tvs off claiming they aint allowed have them on.

Also, will that rule continue on Sept 21?

All pubs are indeed allowed to show sports. The problem here is that a lot of pubs are paying in excess of 10,000 euro per year to have skysport and BT.

It is probably an expense that they don't need right now. Also the seating and viewing of the televisions in some pubs is terrible so they can't have 40 lads packed into a corner watching it so what's the point of getting it. Wouldn't be worth there while paying for it.

punisher5112

Rent out tablets to watch it on could be an option, not ideal but could be an idea.

inthenip

punisher5112 wrote: »

Rent out tablets to watch it on could be an option, not ideal but could be an idea.

Sky knows which pubs have subscriptions and who don't and have people working for them going around to all the pubs who have cancelled their subscriptions. Sky give them one chance to stop things like this and on second visiting they bring them to court and the pub can get a massive fine and incur all the court costs.

A lot of country pubs have switched to dodgy boxes as Sky is simply too dear for them but a lot had to get rid of them as the Sky gave them a warning, next time its court.

Sky actually pay people to travel the country and have a lucozade in these pubs. They don't even identify themselves as employees of Sky.

IAMAMORON

inthenip wrote: »

Sky knows which pubs have subscriptions and who don't and have people working for them going around to all the pubs who have cancelled their subscriptions. Sky give them one chance to stop things like this and on second visiting they bring them to court and the pub can get a massive fine and incur all the court costs.

A lot of country pubs have switched to dodgy boxes as Sky is simply too dear for them but a lot had to get rid of them as the Sky gave them a warning, next time its court.

Sky actually pay people to travel the country and have a lucozade in these pubs. They don't even identify themselves as employees of Sky.

How much are the fines?

On what broadcasting legislation are publicans expected to turn up to court to face?

Is IMRO involved?

inthenip

IAMAMORON wrote: »

How much are the fines?

On what broadcasting legislation are publicans expected to turn up to court to face?

Is IMRO involved?

rte.ie/news/leinster/2019/0117/1023882-sky-tullamore-court/#:~:text=Tullamore%20pub%20fined%20for%20illegally%20showing%20Premier%20League%20match&text=A%20private%20investigator%20hired%20by,match%2C%20a%20court%20has%20heard.

digitaltveurope.com/2019/08/22/three-irish-pubs-ordered-to-pay-sky-fines/

Maybe someone can clear those two links up for me as can't post links.

corcaigh07

punisher5112 wrote: »

Rent out tablets to watch it on could be an option, not ideal but could be an idea.

Great idea, I've seen lads watching a hurling match on RTE Player recently because of the lack of TVs etc on the Covid age pub/restaurant.

inthenip

corcaigh07 wrote: »

Great idea, I've seen lads watching a hurling match on RTE Player recently because of the lack of TVs etc on the Covid age pub/restaurant.

Big difference to renting tablets with Sky sports and BT than watching a hurling or rugby game on Rte.

IAMAMORON

inthenip wrote: »

rte.ie/news/leinster/2019/0117/1023882-sky-tullamore-court/#:~:text=Tullamore%20pub%20fined%20for%20illegally%20showing%20Premier%20League%20match&text=A%20private%20investigator%20hired%20by,match%2C%20a%20court%20has%20heard.

digitaltveurope.com/2019/08/22/three-irish-pubs-ordered-to-pay-sky-fines/

Maybe someone can clear those two links up for me as can't post links.

Done, and thanks for posting.

https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2019/0117/1023882-sky-tullamore-court/

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019/08/22/three-irish-pubs-ordered-to-pay-sky-fines/

IAMAMORON

They are hefty enough fines getting "dished" out ( sorry ). I am assuming that once judgement is passed that the fines are enforceable?

How much does a commercial Sky package cost a publican annually, out of interest?

heffo500

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Done, and thanks for posting.

https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2019/0117/1023882-sky-tullamore-court/

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019/08/22/three-irish-pubs-ordered-to-pay-sky-fines/

Would Sky have a case if they found a pub showing live sports from US or other countries?

heffo500

IAMAMORON wrote: »

They are hefty enough fines getting "dished" out ( sorry ). I am assuming that once judgement is passed that the fines are enforceable?

How much does a commercial Sky package cost a publican annually, out of interest?

I think Sky costs about 600 a month starting depending on the pub revenue

inthenip

IAMAMORON wrote: »

They are hefty enough fines getting "dished" out ( sorry ). I am assuming that once judgement is passed that the fines are enforceable?

How much does a commercial Sky package cost a publican annually, out of interest?

They take a few things into account like location, capacity etc. but a lot of publicans are forking out 10K plus, larger pubs and city pubs a lot more.

inthenip

heffo500 wrote: »

Would Sky have a case if they found a pub showing live sports from US or other countries?

Nope, no case whatsoever. They do threaten you though.

Going by yesterdays numbers I can't see the pubs opening backup on the 21st.

robbiezero

inthenip wrote: »

Nope, no case whatsoever. They do threaten you though.

Going by yesterdays numbers I can't see the pubs opening backup on the 21st.

You think the country will be in lockdown on the 21st?

Banana Republic.

robbiezero wrote: »

You think the country will be in lockdown on the 21st?

I think Dublin will be, my friend is up there today for something and he said it’s dead up there, sent me pictures and it’s like the apocalypse up there. Barely a beggar, junkie ir the average Joe in the city centre. On the news today saying Dublin could double the car a week the way it’s going there. I also agree pubs won’t be open on the 21st.

punisher5112

Banana Republic. wrote: »

I think Dublin will be, my friend is up there today for something and he said it’s dead up there, sent me pictures and it’s like the apocalypse up there. Barely a beggar, junkie ir the average Joe in the city centre. On the news today saying Dublin could double the car a week the way it’s going there. I also agree pubs won’t be open on the 21st.

Wouldn't call it dead but the walking dead are still here, the sun draws them out more where you would see them.... Bit cooler today so not as many sitting about.

robbiezero

Banana Republic. wrote: »

I think Dublin will be, my friend is up there today for something and he said it’s dead up there, sent me pictures and it’s like the apocalypse up there. Barely a beggar, junkie ir the average Joe in the city centre. On the news today saying Dublin could double the car a week the way it’s going there. I also agree pubs won’t be open on the 21st.

No changes where I'm living in D5 anyway. I doubt there is any difference in the city centre towards a normal Covid Thursday morning either.

Pubs will 100% be open in most counties on the 21st, and I think they will likely be open in Dublin. I can't see them locking down Dublin, bar telling people stay out of each others homes.

stephenjmcd

Banana Republic. wrote: »

I think Dublin will be, my friend is up there today for something and he said it’s dead up there, sent me pictures and it’s like the apocalypse up there. Barely a beggar, junkie ir the average Joe in the city centre. On the news today saying Dublin could double the car a week the way it’s going there. I also agree pubs won’t be open on the 21st.

City centre is quieter than normal times but its pretty much like this every day now and I'm in work for a few days of the week in the city. Bit of an over exaggeration from your friend.

Don't worry all of them are still around.

All city centres will suffer as people stay local

martingriff

punisher5112 wrote: »

So unfortunately my prediction was right....

So many jobs gone for 6 months is ridiculous, we will pay for this for the next 10 years at least.

If they had of sent in people properly trained to look after the elderly and in hospitals we would never have had the numbers.

They were way too late at doing anything and nothing has changed, we have absolute numpties in power.

You mean like nurses and doctors? Also how about the people who are not elderly and have underlying health conditions, or anyone that may be near elderly such as cooks cleaners orderlys etc.

I am not saying this is has been handled terribly in the last couple of months but you paint a way too simplistic picture

martingriff

robbiezero wrote: »

You think the country will be in lockdown on the 21st?

Given how they went ham with Kildare Laois and Offaly it will happen. Also given how they are grouping other counties with Dublin like Limerick they can not lockdown those without Dublin

TomTomTim

Banana Republic. wrote: »

I think Dublin will be, my friend is up there today for something and he said it’s dead up there, sent me pictures and it’s like the apocalypse up there. Barely a beggar, junkie ir the average Joe in the city centre. On the news today saying Dublin could double the car a week the way it’s going there. I also agree pubs won’t be open on the 21st.

I've seen the opposite. There's a far higher visible presence of junkies and scumbags. I've only been in town twice in the last few months. The first time I seen junkies fighting at the Spire, the second time I seen some security guards at a shop around the IFSC having to hold two junkies down who tried to rob a shop. It's making Dublin look ten times worse than usual.