Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

Beasty

As the first thread is getting towards 10,000 posts this is the follow up to that thread

Any threadbans from the original thread carry over to this one. Please PM to discuss if you do wish to be able to post again

All mod warnings remain in place, and in particular the following are copied from the OP of that first thread

Mod warning 19/02/20

Beasty wrote: »

OK, time to step in with some mod instructions:

1. Please interact in a civil manner
2. Do not tell others what to do, or what to post
3. If you have a problem with a post report it and leave the modding to the mods

In terms of thread content:

4. Treat everything you read here with caution. Anything posted is from an anonymous internet poster. You cannot assume anyone has any "specialist" knowledge whatever they claim
5. Statistics are important to some (and I personally pay a lot of attention to them), but they are of very little use to anyone who is already caught up in this, or indeed knows of people who are caught up
6. Terms such as "sinus", "airborne", "aerosol" have little relevance at this time in this jurisdiction. Ultimately though if cases are discovered in Ireland please pay attention to the relevant authorities and what they advise/recommend, and not some randomer(s) on the internet

All the above is me talking as a complete layman on the subject. Like everything in this thread do not treat it as chapter and verse, beyond paying attention to items 1-3 above

Any questions please PM me - do not try and dissect this post in-thread

Warning added 24/02/20
Last time it was a "suggestion"/request

Now it's an instruction

Stop all the tit for tat stuff on the stats. None of us are in full possession of the facts and none of us can draw any "definitive" conclusions. Bottom line. It's serious. Not serious in Ireland at this stage, but may become so. Anyone caught up in this is not going to take much solace from any stats however they are complied

Any questions PM me - do not respond to this warning in-thread

Now speculate away. Beware of conspiracy theories and treat everything claimed in this thread with suspicion unless someone provides verifiable and reliable sources

Most importantly do not panic, until you are told to do so.....:pac:

Duke of Url

Stats

tillyfilly

I bought a lot of tinned food yesterday! I can now ride this out

tuxy

CIA

CinemaGuy45

Serious question IF this thing gets really bad and we go onto lockdown for a bit how many of us will not have jobs to go back to?

imfml

Unfunny attempt at humour

Drumpot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFoj2L2LpNA

Really good YouTube information to follow. Also gives good links to areas on websites that have very relevant and interesting information.

bodhrandude

Drumpot wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFoj2L2LpNA

Really good YouTube information to follow. Also gives good links to areas on websites that have very relevant and interesting information.

Playback error.

Edit: Working now.

Fr_Dougal

Do does it have to be a silver bullet, or will a regular bullet kill them?

tuxy

Is that chap a doctor or just another PhD graduate?

tillyfilly

Anyone else notice the stock market fall today? Like 5% in Italy and 3% in most other developed markets, this could get messy

fr336

Don't panic don't panic don't panic

Call Me Jimmy

tillyfilly wrote: »

Anyone else notice the stock market fall today? Like 5% in Italy and 3% in most other developed markets, this could get messy

94% fortune 1000 companies reporting supply chain disruption as of a couple of days ago.
https://fortune.com/2020/02/21/fortune-1000-coronavirus-china-supply-chain-impact/

Beasty

tillyfilly wrote: »

Anyone else notice the stock market fall today? Like 5% in Italy and 3% in most other developed markets, this could get messy

Messy short term, but markets will pick up certainly once this is fully understood and the numbers affected are receding. Of course no-one knows when that will be.

In the meantime if anyone wants any gold I know someone with a stash of it.....

4068ac1elhodqr

tillyfilly wrote: »

Anyone else notice the stock market fall today? Like 5% in Italy and 3% in most other developed markets, this could get messy

$474 billion wiped from European Markets CAC/DAX both down 4%, FTSE 3.5%
US is currently getting battered around 3.5% negative on main live markets.

Expect much of the same tommorow, but hopefully not as bad as some will (rightly or wrongly) view it as an opportunity to purchase.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/markets-hub/

Airlines having a bad time couple of big names -14-17% expect to get overcharged for luggage and oversold on in-flight lotto/raffles.
Currently accumulating gold bars and toilet rolls.

drkpower

tillyfilly wrote: »

Anyone else notice the stock market fall today? Like 5% in Italy and 3% in most other developed markets, this could get messy

It’s up considerably more than that since covid started, and since it went outside China, and since they had cases in the US.

Perhaps back then the markets thought covid was a good thing.

Or maybe, I dunno, the movement of markets is multifactorial and complex, and not explained by a single issue.

CinemaGuy45

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Serious question IF this thing gets really bad and we go onto lockdown for a bit how many of us will not have jobs to go back to?

I work in a hospital so technically, Covid-19 would be good for business.

Call Me Jimmy

Beasty wrote: »

Messy short term, but markets will pick up certainly once this is fully understood and the numbers affected are receding. Of course no-one knows when that will be.

In the meantime if anyone wants any gold I know someone with a stash of it.....

Gold was already on the way up because of fiat ****ery and repo madness and people copping onto the Chinese funny money then this thing hits :O

DrumSteve

Think I'm gonna give this thread a miss for a few days.

Keep safe everyone.

tillyfilly

drkpower wrote: »

It’s up considerably more than that since covid started, and since it went outside China, and since they had cases in the US.

Perhaps back then the markets thought covid was a good thing.

Or maybe, I dunno, the movement of markets is multifactorial and complex, and not explained by a single issue.

the markets may be pricing in a recession also according to some analysts

Harry Palmr

Here's hoping that Spring (if we have one) will drastically reduce the rate of incidence.

This is slightly by the by but you'd have to wonder if commerce will take a dark view of China from here on, this is far from the first such virus to originate from there. If the wider global economy takes a sustained hit it might suppress doing business there in the longer term.

Ficheall

It would be nice if, say, Italy, Iran, SK gave an indication of how many people tested negative; even if that isn't wholly reliable, it would give a better idea of prevalence..

fritzelly

tuxy wrote: »

Is that chap a doctor or just another PhD graduate?

Dr. John Campbell is a Senior Lecturer in Nursing studies at the University of Cumbria. He has been a clinical nurse and a nurse tutor for over 30 years

So not a doctor as most people would think of the title

drunkmonkey

Time to break out the bob marleys, haven't smoked in a bit but might stock up on the Mary Jane to kill sometime while in quarrintine https://www.sott.net/article/429210-How-to-prevent-coronavirus-Start-smoking

odyssey06

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Here's hoping that Spring (if we have one) will drastically reduce the rate of incidence.

School holidays can't come too soon...

In July 2009, H1N1 flu infections skyrocketed in the UK, but as soon as the school
summer holidays ensured the kids were coughing over their PS4s rather than each other, the rate plunged to near zero.
- from a review in The Times of The Rules of Contagion

And...
UK residents typically have physical contact with five other people a day, while for the touchyfeely Italians it’s twice as many.

MarkY91

So lads, why hasn't the Singapore dollar, Thai baht etc fallen against the Euro? SGD already fell against the USD.

Surely there's some Forex educated people here to explain.

BanditLuke

http://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-outbreak-could-be-feared-disease-x-says-world-health-organisation-adviser-11942356

First I've heard this kind of talk

Spanish Eyes

The Italians will be over soon for the Rugby..uh oh

drunkmonkey

MarkY91 wrote: »

So lads, why hasn't the Singapore dollar, Thai baht etc fallen against the Euro? SGD already fell against the USD.

Surely there's some Forex educated people here to explain.

Cause we're even more ****ed than they are.

MarkY91

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Cause we're even more ****ed than they are.

But I've been following the Forex for almost 3 weeks now. Now just since the Italy outbreak.

LadyMayBelle

Where's the chap from the previous thread who's been self isolating? Thread got so busy I lost track.. he'd gotten a taxi from the airport and then had contact with his dad and a housemate..who works in a hospital...

Boggles

I am enjoying the cheaper Diesel.

Swings and roundabouts.

CinemaGuy45

odyssey06 wrote: »

School holidays can't come too soon...

In July 2009, H1N1 flu infections skyrocketed in the UK, but as soon as the school
summer holidays ensured the kids were coughing over their PS4s rather than each other, the rate plunged to near zero.
- from a review in The Times of The Rules of Contagion

And...
UK residents typically have physical contact with five other people a day, while for the touchyfeely Italians it’s twice as many.

Total bull.:rolleyes:


The PS4 came out in 2013.:cool:

drunkmonkey

MarkY91 wrote: »

But I've been following the Forex for almost 3 weeks now. Now just since the Italy outbreak.

The 1% is dependent on the 99%. Without cheap labour and goods were in serious trouble.

BanditLuke

BanditLuke wrote: »

http://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-outbreak-could-be-feared-disease-x-says-world-health-organisation-adviser-11942356

First I've heard this kind of talk

Disease X. Definitely what the movie about this will be called.

Lashes28

LadyMayBelle wrote: »

Where's the chap from the previous thread who's been self isolating? Thread got so busy I lost track.. he'd gotten a taxi from the airport and then had contact with his dad and a housemate..who works in a hospital...

He never made it to part 2

bodhrandude

Lashes28 wrote: »

He never made it to part 2

A rereg I take it.

tuxy

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Time to break out the bob marleys, haven't smoked in a bit but might stock up on the Mary Jane to kill sometime while in quarrintine https://www.sott.net/article/429210-How-to-prevent-coronavirus-Start-smoking

Please don't compromise your lungs when a respiratory virus may be on the way.

Kermit.de.frog

:pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlF0LcQO9Tg

wakka12

Ficheall wrote: »

It would be nice if, say, Italy, Iran, SK gave an indication of how many people tested negative; even if that isn't wholly reliable, it would give a better idea of prevalence..

Other than Iran most countries openly divulge this information
Korea has performed 28,000 tests, so about one in every 33 testing positive
China has performed 200,000, so about 1 in every 2.5 positive

https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f8x2lh/s_korea_has_tested_28000_us_cdc_meanwhile_reports/

drunkmonkey

tuxy wrote: »

Please don't compromise your lungs when a respiratory virus may be on the way.

I'm just playing the numbers. Gonna find the stickiest-icky I can find tomorrow and give those lungs a good medicinal coating.

Thisonedone

Boggles wrote: »

I am enjoying the cheaper Diesel.

Swings and roundabouts.

The fumes from your diesel will kill a lot more people in Ireland than the coronavirus ever will

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzybAS7zltE

igCorcaigh

UK not prepared to shut down travel or public events. Schools may shut though.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/24/government-to-shut-schools-if-there-was-uk-coronavirus-outbreak

Are they admitting containment doesn't work? Protecting the economy?

I would imagine our policies may match those of UK?

Boggles

Thisonedone wrote: »

The fumes from your diesel will kill a lot more people in Ireland than the coronavirus ever will

Yeah swings and roundabouts.

bodhrandude

An interesting article by The Atlantic about the race to find a vaccine and an interesting history going back to 1997 with the first case of bird flu, limited access till you subscribe but free for the moment I think.

cryptocurrency

Chinese neighbours had groceries delivered and they were left outside the door, bell rang and the deliver driver run away. Weird.

ZX7R

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Chinese neighbours had groceries delivered and they were left outside the door, bell rang and the deliver driver run away. Weird.

That's not weird that is just how Tesco delivery works

4068ac1elhodqr

tuxy wrote: »

Please don't compromise your lungs when a respiratory virus may be on the way.

Agree all boozers and smokers should update any pending paperwork.

Instead, try to stock up on some alternative 'green', to boost SpO2 (Blood oxygen saturation) by 1% from indoor defaults, after just 24hrs.

I.e. Areca Palm, Mother-in-law's Tongue, & the Money Plant. If they/you fail, at least the place will look fabulous. A few Boston/Jap Ferns might be handy too.

Runaways

LadyMayBelle wrote: »

Where's the chap from the previous thread who's been self isolating? Thread got so busy I lost track.. he'd gotten a taxi from the airport and then had contact with his dad and a housemate..who works in a hospital...

Anseo

cryptocurrency

ZX7R wrote: »

That's not weird that is just how Tesco delivery works

It wasn't Tesco