new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

Duke of Url

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

Guess even the Dem voters will be out offering to help finish the Donald's big wall.

Parts of S.America & Mehico city etc are a bit packed and chaotic to say the least. A large caravan of folks edging towards the border would be a tricky situation, even moreso than normal.

Let's also hope that locust plague in East Africa is resolved, too much pestilence mixed with the batsnake flu, Aussies on fire, and recent batches of 7x earthquakes is starting to look like a tribulation warming-up.

Out of curiosity. Does climate have any effects on Coronavirus’s like wet climates v dry climates?

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tom1ie wrote: »

Serious question here. Where are people getting their info?
It’s non stop brexit bull**** on sky news, bbc news and RTÉ news. CNN are showing non stop trump impeachment.
You would think corana outbreak isn’t that serious at all!

https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Hot+Topics/China+Coronavirus+Outbreak?type=ln is reasonable for more general news.

For the conspiracy stuff, there's probably more material available elsewhere. One of the very earliest pointed to the Gates lad, all/any are wild speculation of course, to be taken with good dose of salt, and electrolytes.

fritzelly

Another few thousand new cases, dead numbers not increased much and so hasn't the cured.
Watching some of the videos of people being turned away unless they're dying maked you wonder
Outside China numbers are the ones to watch over the next few days.
I would say strange the numbers are not increasing but the same happened in Wuhan, stayed very low but slowly they increased very rapidly

fritzelly

Duke of Url wrote: »

Out of curiosity. Does climate have any effects on Coronavirus’s like wet climates v dry climates?

Viruses don't like heat, same as your body raises its temperature to fight viruses

PhantomHat

tom1ie wrote: »

Serious question here. Where are people getting their info?
It’s non stop brexit bull**** on sky news, bbc news and RTÉ news. CNN are showing non stop trump impeachment.
You would think corana outbreak isn’t that serious at all!

It's likely an effort by news outlets to limit coverage. The powers that be do not want unnecessary panic. There are after all other big news stories developing at the moment

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Duke of Url wrote: »

Out of curiosity. Does climate have any effects on Coronavirus’s like wet climates v dry climates?

The wealther is largely irrelevant, when e.g. folks have a fish market that has a wet mix of alive/dead/skinned/sick/bloody animals, mammals and reptiles of any and every type dripping their bits, forming a germpool basin for folks to stick their fingers into for a taste.

Same goes for other countries getting intimate with donkeys/camels/monkeys and what have ye.

creditcarder

fritzelly wrote: »

Viruses don't like heat, same as your body raises its temperature to fight viruses

Seriously. So, as absurd as it sounds, the tropics are safer than the north?

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PhantomHat wrote: »

It's likely an effort by news outlets to limit coverage. The powers that be do not want unnecessary panic. There are after all other big news stories developing at the moment

True that, oil lost over 4% today (-15% for 2020), the DJIA is now opening with a 2% dip, FTSE100 showing a triple waterfall in the last 7 days.

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creditcarder wrote: »

Seriously. So, as absurd as it sounds, the tropics are safer than the north?

Then there is bacterial infections, which may be partial to a bit of sweating. Mosquitos also, are nasty too for spreading stuff, thankfully not too widespread in colder N.Europe.

VinLieger

Duke of Url wrote: »

Out of curiosity. Does climate have any effects on Coronavirus’s like wet climates v dry climates?

Yea they travel on water molecules so hotter dryer weather equals less chance of infection

Quantum Erasure

tom1ie wrote: »

Serious question here. Where are people getting their info?

this twitter is good for official stats updates

first confirmed cases in Sweden, Spain and 2 in Russia reported today
(also first 2 confirmed in the UK, 2 in Italy also) 7 in Germany, 6 in France

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1223374787487072257

hmmm

VinLieger wrote: »

So new theory ive seen is the reason the number is only going up by a little over 1k per day is because thats the amount of test kits they are getting acces to or able to process per day.

And if thats true then the lancet projected infected numbers are starting to actually worry me

I'm not a doomer and I fully believe the cases are being under-reported in the epicentre around Wuhan. They have to be and it's nothing deliberate - the Chinese can only know about the people who are turning up to hospitals, not the ones who are recovering at home during the quarantine.

We'll know the true figures in a couple of months. The key figures for me now are the number of critical patients and whether that goes down over time, because they should be relatively accurate - if you are very sick at home you will go to hospital, but otherwise you'll just sit indoors watching Netflix while feeling a bit hot.

creditcarder

VinLieger wrote: »

Yea they travel on water molecules so hotter dryer weather equals less chance of infection

Hmmm, curious how bangkok is getting any with the dry heat tbh.

Clarence Boddiker

tom1ie wrote: »

Serious question here. Where are people getting their info?
It’s non stop brexit bull**** on sky news, bbc news and RTÉ news. CNN are showing non stop trump impeachment.
You would think corana outbreak isn’t that serious at all!

https://mobile.twitter.com/LokiJulianus

fritzelly

creditcarder wrote: »

Seriously. So, as absurd as it sounds, the tropics are safer than the north?

http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2014/the-reason-for-the-season-why-flu-strikes-in-winter/

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Spain and Sweden added today to the growing affected regions/countries.
US has it's 7th case confirmed, down in the SF'Bay way.

VinLieger

creditcarder wrote: »

Hmmm, curious how bangkok is getting any with the dry heat tbh.

Its not impossible just less likely, also dont forget literal human contact.

fritzelly

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

Spain and Sweden added today to the growing affected regions/countries.
US has it's 7th case confirmed, down in the SF'Bay way.

In Spain now, must go into quarantine for 2 weeks to be sure, was sneezing yesterday

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Could be worse, the Lassa virus is killing and infecting more people in Nigeria +20% this week.
Probably best not to read up the effects of it.

Instead dust off your bible/buddah, air the garlic, and throw some salt and sage around the place as the Tribulation nears.
Funny thing is the (x4) or so buses that picked up Engerlands quarantine subjects, was called 'horsemen' coaches.

Duke of Url

This is an interesting article on CNN

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/31/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic-spread-study/index.html

Half way down you will see that the people who tested positive had very mild symptoms.

I wonder does it effect demographic in different ways

Tin Foil Hat

tom1ie wrote: »

Serious question here. Where are people getting their info?
It’s non stop brexit bull**** on sky news, bbc news and RTÉ news. CNN are showing non stop trump impeachment.
You would think corana outbreak isn’t that serious at all!

This is the best site I've come across
https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/01/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

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Duke of Url wrote: »

I wonder does it effect demographic in different ways

Far, far too early to assume (unlikely anyway).
China has likey got what 98%? of all cases, perhaps more if including the 'unofficial'.

Only side note (that read somewhere) is that for one family of six that had it, 'each' patient showed subtle different mutations of it.

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Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

This is the best site I've come across
https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/01/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

That 1st (early area) 21.57% case figure status for Hubei isn't encouraging.

fritzelly

I'm not saying Umbrella corporation but in Spain why have I been served this glass

https://imgur.com/gallery/4tswglP

josip

fritzelly wrote: »

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I would say strange the numbers are not increasing but the same happened in Wuhan, stayed very low but slowly they increased very rapidly

Huh?

Quantum Erasure

josip wrote: »

Huh?

fritzelly

josip wrote: »

Huh?

After it became widespread news the numbers were increasing by 50% each day and this was several weeks after the initial infection
We may only be seeing the start of this in the west

bilston

VinLieger wrote: »

So new theory ive seen is the reason the number is only going up by a little over 1k per day is because thats the amount of test kits they are getting acces to or able to process per day.

And if thats true then the lancet projected infected numbers are starting to actually worry me

Had thought this myself that there is probably a limit to the number of cases that confirmed everyday.

The infected figure could be anything.

I assume the fatality figure is probably more accurate.

Nijmegen

So the yanks have said anyone who isn’t a citizen or direct relation to a citizen who has been in China over the prior 14 days won’t be allowed into the country from Sunday evening.

theguzman

Nijmegen wrote: »

So the yanks have said anyone who isn’t a citizen or direct relation to a citizen who has been in China over the prior 14 days won’t be allowed into the country from Sunday evening.

Sensible move, considering the size and scale of the United States.