British version of Trump becomes PM

ancapailldorcha

antix80 wrote: »

I hear it the whole time. I'm sure there's a few instances in this thread.

Feel free to quote some.

steddyeddy

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

This thread is mad - right down to the title.

Liberal types personally offended because someone they don't like got elected in another country. Like him or not, Trump has done most of what he said he would and their economy is doing fine.
Boris can't be any worse than say Leo Varadkar - the most empty suit Taoiseach we've had yet. More concerned with his gigs and Tweets than running the country with any sort of competence, or even coming down on dodgy insurance claims from within his own party.

Even more funny is the hope that the UK economy goes down the toilet to teach them a lesson and because it's "de Brits". Time to get over the 800 years and join the rest of us in the 21st century.

Well the EU isn't any particular friend to Ireland either.. maybe a friend of convenience. Oh sure we got a lot of infrastructure investment and subsidies, but we're a net contributor these days and we certainly paid them back with the cheapest bailout in history :rolleyes: to prevent the contagion to their own banks.

If the UK economy tanks as some seem to hope, it'll be far more damaging to us than Brussels, Paris or Berlin

I think your post embodies Brexit perfectly. Brexiters are more angry about people talking down Brexit rather than being angry at the people who brought about the vote that will actually destroy the British economy.

miamee

tedpan wrote: »

It's funny, Boris was born in the US and his great grandad was turkish.

He is also related to European royalty and a descendant of King George II - all discovered when he went on Who Do You Think You Are?

AllGunsBlazing

Looks like he gave Corbyn a bit of a hiding in their first joust in parliament today. Corbyn will probably continue to struggle in these exchanges. Unlike Boris, May was easily flustered during pmqs, and Corbyn frequently tripped her up. Boris is rarely ever at a loss when it comes to verbal backhanders..

fqollere

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

Looks like he gave Corbyn a bit of a hiding in their first joust in parliament today. Corbyn will probably continue to struggle in these exchanges. Unlike Boris, May was easily flustered during pmqs, and Corbyn frequently tripped her up. Boris is rarely ever at a loss when it comes to verbal backhanders..

ya but that's the least of their problems at this stage

they should be co-operating

dudara

Trump-related posts deleted. There are plenty of other threads to discuss the US and Trump. This is not that thread.

dudara

Boggles

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

Looks like he gave Corbyn a bit of a hiding in their first joust in parliament today. Corbyn will probably continue to struggle in these exchanges. Unlike Boris, May was easily flustered during pmqs, and Corbyn frequently tripped her up. Boris is rarely ever at a loss when it comes to verbal backhanders..

It was just a load of roaring and shouting as usual, bit more boisterous today.

The only meaningful slap down issued today was by Barnier.

steddyeddy

In parliament Boris insisted on ditching the backstop. The EU's chief negotiator sends a message out that this is unacceptable. From my perspective the only good thing about Boris is that he's going to show Brexit for the sham it is a lot sooner than May.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-eu-plan-deal-negotiation-irish-backstop-prime-minister-a9020866.html

Boggles

steddyeddy wrote: »

In parliament Boris insisted on ditching the backstop. The EU's chief negotiator sends a message out that this is unacceptable. From my perspective the only good thing about Boris is that he's going to show Brexit for the sham it is a lot sooner than May.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-eu-plan-deal-negotiation-irish-backstop-prime-minister-a9020866.html

PM Johnson has stated that if an agreement is to be reached it goes by way of eliminating the backstop. This is of course unacceptable and not within the mandate of the European Council

That bolded part seems to be lost in the Bozo mania.

Enter name here

Boggles wrote: »

That bolded part seems to be lost in the Bozo mania.

The BOLDEST part seems to be lost on the likes of yourself and others. Boris has quite clearly stated he doesn't care and will walk away, what part of that is everyone getting confused? The world's 5th largest economy has stated they will walk away if you think that wont make the EU re negotiate people will be sorely mistaken.

antix80

Enter name here wrote: »

The BOLDEST part seems to be lost on the likes of yourself and others. Boris has quite clearly stated he doesn't care and will walk away, what part of that is everyone getting confused? The world's 5th largest economy has stated they will walk away if you think that wont make the EU re negotiate people will be sorely mistaken.

I think it's interesting that Trump pulled out of an EU trade deal. I wonder if he thinks he'll have more bargaining power if both the UK and EU want a trade deal with the US.

Then there's Australia/New Zealand and South America all negotiating trade deals with the EU. Not sure how the nature of these negotiations depends on what the UK is doing. Seems to me the UK needs to act fast and make friends if it's to leave the EU in 3 months.

Enter name here

antix80 wrote: »

I think it's interesting that Trump pulled out of an EU trade deal. I wonder if he thinks he'll have more bargaining power if both the UK and EU want a trade deal with the US.

Then there's Australia/New Zealand and South America all negotiating trade deals with the EU. Not sure how the nature of these negotiations depends on what the UK is doing. Seems to me the UK needs to act fast and make friends if it's to leave the EU in 3 months.

Yes we can see how much that South American (eu sanctioned trade deal) is going to affect Irish farmers. It will be the end of their farms and business but lets all celebrate the EU shall we.

Faugheen

Enter name here wrote: »

The BOLDEST part seems to be lost on the likes of yourself and others. Boris has quite clearly stated he doesn't care and will walk away, what part of that is everyone getting confused? The world's 5th largest economy has stated they will walk away if you think that wont make the EU re negotiate people will be sorely mistaken.

He won’t walk away. Parliament will pass a binding vote that won’t allow him to.

Plus, he’s bluffing anyway. Boris might be a bumbling fool but even he knows what damage a no-deal Brexit causes.

He won’t be able to walk away because of Commons, so he’ll get an extension and call a general election so a clear majority government will be able to pass whatever it wants.

Boggles

Enter name here wrote: »

The world's 5th largest economy has stated they will walk away if you think that wont make the EU re negotiate people will be sorely mistaken.

5th really? Sure let's play a bit of Top Trumps.

The EU is the largest economy in the world. Although growth is projected to be slow, the EU remains the largest economy in the world with a GDP per head of €25 000 for its 500 million consumers.

The EU is the world's largest trading block. The EU is the world’s largest trader of manufactured goods and services.

The EU ranks first in both inbound and outbound international investments

The EU is the top trading partner for 80 countries. By comparison the US is the top trading partner for a little over 20 countries.

The EU is the most open to developing countries. Fuels excluded, the EU imports more from developing countries than the USA, Canada, Japan and China put together.

Yeah Bozo holds all the cards all right. :rolleyes:

steddyeddy

Boris Johnson's government has been warned by Nancy Pelosi that there won't be a UK-US trade deal if the Good Friday agreement is harmed. So even if the EU caves under pressure we have American backing.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/brexit-pelosi-warns-uk-not-to-jeopardise-belfast-agreement-1.3967768?fbclid=IwAR2zxWtEnQoW3hVPo1tYOe8SQdtBrncnJeBQqcIxLTbtiFDBoF01A9ZQFrI

blinding

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I would say it accelerates ageing by about 50%.

Blair turned into Lucifers representative on earth . It goes to show that when that sort of evil is inside you it cannot be hidden on your face .

blinding

fryup wrote: »

first Trump now this.....have the lunatics taken over the asylum?

Perhaps the reason we have Trump / Brexit / Boris is that the Lunatics were running the asylum before these three things happened:eek::eek::eek:

Boggles

steddyeddy wrote: »

Boris Johnson's government has been warned by Nancy Pelosi that there won't be a UK-US trade deal if the Good Friday agreement is harmed. So even if the EU caves under pressure we have American backing.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/brexit-pelosi-warns-uk-not-to-jeopardise-belfast-agreement-1.3967768?fbclid=IwAR2zxWtEnQoW3hVPo1tYOe8SQdtBrncnJeBQqcIxLTbtiFDBoF01A9ZQFrI

Add to that the 2 fingers China gave them a couple of weeks ago.

Brexit does not make the UK the greatest country in the world, it makes them dangerously sub-servant.

They gave real matches and real petrol to an absolute Clown, lets hope some adults get involved.

Wanderer78

blinding wrote:

Perhaps the reason we have Trump / Brexit / Boris is that the Lunatics were running the asylum before these three things happened

There's an element of truth to this, but is this the solution!

blinding

fqollere wrote: »

i think they won't leave at the last minute


everything that's happening now is drama before a second referendum imo

There certainly won’t be a second referendum before a General Election , nor should there be .

blinding

dudara wrote: »

There’s a certain part of me that’s very curious to see what Boris will achieve. He said today that will take personal responsibility

And then he went to say that Britain will be ready by October. 3 months time, with most of Europe on holidays in August. The project manager in me is having a good giggle at that timeline.

But what do you think your self ?;)

Stop moaning ffs

Brexit is 1000 days old and unresolved. Boris thinks he can solve it in 90.
Boris is deluded.

Still waiting on the EU to cave. (Not gonna happen)
Still waiting for the EU to throw Ireland under the bus (not gonna happen)

blinding

Wanderer78 wrote: »

There's an element of truth to this, but is this the solution!

In democracies the People decide the solution or what they consider the best solution on offer !

blinding

Cameron surrendered to the Eu= Out of his job .

May surrendered to the Eu = Out of her job .

Advice to Boris Johnson = do not surrender to the Eu if you want to stay in your job .

Wanderer78

blinding wrote:

In democracies the People decide the solution or what they consider the best solution on offer !

It should be interesting to see how this democracy works out in reality, but you d have to wonder, will we ever experience it

blinding

Wanderer78 wrote: »

It should be interesting to see how this democracy works out in reality, but you d have to wonder, will we ever experience it

Democracy is considered by some to be a very bad system but many many many times better than the alternatives ( to paraphrase Winston Churchill )

Hopefully Britain returns to being a Democracy soon . There has been a three year aberration where Britain has ceased to be a democracy i.e. Not Respecting the will of the People in the Referendum and the following General Election .

A Country should cherish its democracy . Look at Hong Kong now and let that be a warning to us all .

Stop moaning ffs

Nobody is stopping or disrupting democracy in the uk though.
They voted to leave. Grand. They just seem to be going in circles about how.

blinding

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Nobody is stopping or disrupting democracy in the uk though.
They voted to leave. Grand. They just seem to be going in circles about how.

The Anti-Democratcs in the UK have been trying to subvert democracy by every conceivable means . It is no surprise that they are Eu-Philes .

Stop moaning ffs

blinding wrote: »

The Anti-Democratcs in the UK have been trying to subvert democracy by every conceivable means . It is no surprise that they are Eu-Philes .

Who are these anti democratics you refer to exactly?

Boggles

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Brexit is 1000 days old and unresolved. Boris thinks he can solve it in 90.
Boris is deluded.

Still waiting on the EU to cave. (Not gonna happen)
Still waiting for the EU to throw Ireland under the bus (not gonna happen)

He wishes he had 90 days.

The EU council don't meet again until October 12th.

He was told quite clearly yesterday don't bother ringing if it's about the backstop.

He has 20 odd days.

Like I said May was a torturous slow train crash, this will be quick and spectacular.