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British version of Trump becomes PM

  • 23-07-2019 11:34am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭


    Boris wins leadership race to become PM. Fired for lying, racist in his Telegraph columns and clueless. How will this pan out?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49084605


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    british version of trump... come on borris is nowhere near trump. You also say it like its a bad thing....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭antix80


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Boris wins leadership race to become PM. Fired for lying, racist in his Telegraph columns and clueless.

    :rolleyes:

    What is the point of being so biased. He'll probably be a better leader than twinkletoes varadkar anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    At least he will get things done for better or worse he will achieve what that joke of a PM May could not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    antix80 wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    What is the point of being so biased. He'll probably be a better leader than twinkletoes varadkar anyway.

    Never heard Leo V called twinkletoes before. Why would he be given that nickname?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,668 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    At least he will get things done for better or worse he will achieve what that joke of a PM May could not.

    i very much doubt that, expect a lot of bluster and misinformation if he last longer than a few months he will be a disaster (unless the responsibility makes him grow up and actually start acting in a way the postion requires but I cant see that)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,810 ✭✭✭quokula


    Never heard Leo V called twinkletoes before. Why would he be given that nickname?

    Because knuckle dragging homophobes would think it's clever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    At least he will get things done for better or worse he will achieve what that joke of a PM May could not.

    If you were hiring someone would you consider it a good point that they might get something done for "better or worse". Would you not hire someone who would get things done for the better?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    If you were hiring someone would you consider it a good point that they might get something done for "better or worse". Would you not hire someone who would get things done for the better?

    Well Brexit is going to happen regardless, inaction is worse than action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,403 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    i very much doubt that, expect a lot of bluster and misinformation if he last longer than a few months he will be a disaster (unless the responsibility makes him grow up and actually start acting in a way the postion requires but I cant see that)

    Yeah Johnson will likely be more pigheaded than May and either nothing happens or they crash out without deal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    i very much doubt that, expect a lot of bluster and misinformation if he last longer than a few months he will be a disaster (unless the responsibility makes him grow up and actually start acting in a way the postion requires but I cant see that)

    Indeed that is the hope but he was already foreign secretary. Surely this would have provided the impetus to grow up. Instead he made a series of gaffes which damaged Britain's reputation worldwide and put a British citizen in Iran in more trouble because of his careless attitude.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭antix80


    quokula wrote: »
    Because knuckle dragging homophobes would think it's clever.

    Would they?

    It's just what springs to mind when I see the little twit showing his socks off at every opportunity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,259 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Did the Simpson's predict this?


    I like South Park take on it in 2016

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Yeah Johnson will likely be more pigheaded than May and either nothing happens or they crash out without deal

    He’s pretty much positioned himself for no deal.

    But remember the old Vulcan saying - only Nixon can go to China. He might be able to exit with a deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,674 ✭✭✭elefant


    Well Brexit is going to happen regardless, inaction is worse than action.

    Have you created a situation in your head where the choice is Boris Johnson or an inanimate object?

    Nobody would be 'inactive'. And almost anybody would be more effective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Looks like a no deal Brexit so. Not great for Ireland either as he seems to have some funny attitudes about us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭nw5iytvs0lf1uz


    at this moment britian needs boris. they voted to leave and if they dont it will have serious implications for the very fabric of the UK.
    when he gets them out of europe the British people can start to bridge their differences.
    and who knows maybe the liberal democrats will win the next election and they can re join.
    Thats democracy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭satguy


    Boris is nothing like Trump,

    He not orange..
    He probably only has half the IQ of Trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭pjdarcy


    satguy wrote: »
    Boris is nothing like Trump,

    He not orange..
    He probably only has half the IQ of Trump.

    and that's saying something!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    quokula wrote:
    Because knuckle dragging homophobes would think it's clever.

    Is it a homophobic slur? Fred Flinstone is gay?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Well Brexit is going to happen regardless, inaction is worse than action.

    He wrote two articles about leaving the EU prior to the election. One extolling the benefits of leaving and one for the befits of staying. He is certainly not a typical Brexiter or one with conviction.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Let’s leave Leo’s sexuality and socks out of this please.

    dudara


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Trump and Boris, fun times ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭scooby77


    While certainly not delighted with the news, I do believe it mightn't be the disaster many fear because:
    1. He's not a complete idealogue like many brexiteers, he's likely to be more open to compromise than May.
    2. He actually grew into the role of Mayor of London, and as time went on was reasonably popular, earning grudging respect from many initial doubters.
    3. Personality is important in negotiation, like it or not. Even his opponents often say he's affable and good company. Also surprisingly shrewd.

    I'll probably eat my words but...maybe he'll do ok, at least better than May.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Both have Same body type and Dodgy haircuts . brother from another mother !

    Give him a chance at least before we condem him .

    He's Brexit and an ongoing situation with Iran to deal with he's going to have to hit the ground running


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    scooby77 wrote: »
    While certainly not delighted with the news, I do believe it mightn't be the disaster many fear because:
    1. He's not a complete idealogue like many brexiteers, he's likely to be more open to compromise than May.
    2. He actually grew into the role of Mayor of London, and as time went on was reasonably popular, earning grudging respect from many initial doubters.
    3. Personality is important in negotiation, like it or not. Even his opponents often say he's affable and good company. Also surprisingly shrewd.

    I'll probably eat my words but...maybe he'll do ok, at least better than May.

    Having the support of the US, Australia and most of the other british allies and territories outside of the EU will also help greatly for negociating on a non EU trade platform.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭Enter name here


    It's ok if it all goes pear shaped, Ireland can just sell its soul to the Eu again for another pot of gold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    At least he will get things done for better or worse he will achieve what that joke of a PM May could not.

    May never wanted Brexit. She was handed a poisoned chalice by Cameron, and just simply tried to follow the will of the electerate.

    Boris on the other hand, always wanted to be PM, and was probably always going to be. He wants Brexit, and will probably do all to get it, including lying. Lost all respect for him when he ran after the referendum, realising he to had no plan either.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    They have nothing in common.

    Assuming they are similar is pure lazy.

    Good luck to him. I hope he keeps Ireland in mind when he is running the UK.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,365 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Looks like a no deal Brexit so. Not great for Ireland either as he seems to have some funny attitudes about us.

    He appears to have funny attitudes towards pretty much everyone from outside the UK, and probably plenty who aren't, so we're nothing special.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    They have nothing in common.

    Assuming they are similar is pure lazy.

    Good luck to him. I hope he keeps Ireland in mind when he is running the UK.

    Racist, prone to talking without thinking and described as incredibly stupid by people working with them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    He'll be gone at about 11.30pm on Sunday 3rd November and the UK will still be in the EU this time next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,684 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    At least he will get things done for better or worse he will achieve what that joke of a PM May could not.

    what things?

    I don't understand how just doing anything regardless of outcome or intent is to be classed as something positive..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,684 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Looks like a no deal Brexit so. Not great for Ireland either as he seems to have some funny attitudes about us.

    fairly standard Tory attitude to Ireland really


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭Duane Dibbley


    The UK voted Brexit and now have a Brexit PM. Now they can get on with it. A quick reshuffle of his cabinet to install his team of Brexiteers and the UK can get on with Leaving the EU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,684 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    The UK voted Brexit and now have a Brexit PM. Now they can get on with it. A quick reshuffle of his cabinet to install his team of Brexiteers and the UK can get on with Leaving the EU.

    not if Parliament block him


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 418 ✭✭Duane Dibbley


    lawred2 wrote: »
    not if Parliament block him

    Who requests the extension from the EU?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭Enter name here


    sabat wrote: »
    He'll be gone at about 11.30pm on Sunday 3rd November and the UK will still be in the EU this time next year.

    I'll one up you, by saying the UK will successfully leave the EU. And the EU will collapse and be found out for what it is, a German controlled union that will crash and burn within the next 10 years and countries can get back to their own governance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Gatling wrote: »
    !

    Give him a chance at least before we condem him .

    You know hes been in politics already, yeah?

    They didnt just drop in someone nobody has ever heard of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Having the support of the US, .

    Support if the US how? Trump is doing what's best for (I was going to say america , but no) Trump. If that involves ****ting all over the UK , then that's what'll happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Some of my labor supporting friends will be very happy with this. They view Johnson as the stick that will break the camel's back for the Tories.

    In reality under any other leader labor would have looked like a valid option a long time ago. Hopefully the move go expel the anti-Semitism from the party will improve their prospects.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,684 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Who requests the extension from the EU?

    He'll be out of a job if he doesn't adhere to the will of Parliament... The HOC is not dictated to by a PM when the numbers aren't in the PM's favour


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Calhoun wrote: »
    Some of my labor supporting friends will be very happy with this. They view Johnson as the stick that will break the camel's back for the Tories.

    In reality under any other leader labor would have looked like a valid option a long time ago. Hopefully the move go expel the anti-Semitism from the party will improve their prospects.

    With corbyn in charge, the tories could elect a blind cat and people would support it to keep corbyn out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Trump and Boris, fun times ahead.

    Trump will be tussling his hair and saying 'good boy' and Boris will kiss his ass.
    Boris uses the aul' Bertie trick of playing the bumbling fool and while Boris is a fool, he's got a sinister streak he hides.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,403 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Having the support of the US, Australia and most of the other british allies and territories outside of the EU will also help greatly for negociating on a non EU trade platform.

    US fair enough but Germany, France. Ireland, Netherlands, Italy, Belgium, Spain and all top 10 exporting partners of the UK with Germany, Ireland, Netherlands and France being #2-5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    Calhoun wrote: »
    Some of my labor supporting friends will be very happy with this. They view Johnson as the stick that will break the camel's back for the Tories.

    In reality under any other leader labor would have looked like a valid option a long time ago. Hopefully the move go expel the anti-Semitism from the party will improve their prospects.
    With corbyn in charge, the tories could elect a blind cat and people would support it to keep corbyn out.

    When Corbyn won the leadership, I suggested that it was the best thing that could ever happen the Tories - guaranteed to be in Government for a couple of elections.

    I would like to think that Boris will bring the Tory Government crashing down, but after sitting up all night a few weeks ago watching the various votes in Westminster, I'm beginning to think the whole lot of them have a death wish. This "will of the people" schtick has them all petrified to stand up and do (what I think) is best for their country - a second referendum in light of the considerable amount of new information available to the electorate. If "the people" remain unconvinced by this new info, the no loss to the Brexiteers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭Tired Gardener


    No surprise, Boris was going to win as soon as he announced a tax break for the rich. So now we get to see whether his talk is just bluster or not. I honestly think that it is all bluster to come across as a man of action to the people, but when it comes to action he is well out of his depth.

    I doubt he'll achieve anything and resign in a few months.

    Brexit claims another Tory political career, and will hopefully just slowly fade away.

    It is going to be fun watching the resignations come as a result of Boris Johnson winning.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Racist, prone to talking without thinking and described as incredibly stupid by people working with them.

    All 3 of your points are based on here say, for both men.

    Nobody gets to run a country and be stupid at the same time. Anyone who thinks so is naïve.

    If you could give me 1 objective example of either person being racist I would be happy to agree with you. Good luck with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    When Corbyn won the leadership, I suggested that it was the best thing that could ever happen the Tories - guaranteed to be in Government for a couple of elections.

    I would like to think that Boris will bring the Tory Government crashing down, but after sitting up all night a few weeks ago watching the various votes in Westminster, I'm beginning to think the whole lot of them have a death wish. This "will of the people" schtick has them all petrified to stand up and do (what I think) is best for their country - a second referendum in light of the considerable amount of new information available to the electorate. If "the people" remain unconvinced by this new info, the no loss to the Brexiteers.

    be it through their own decision or referendum , the more they kick the can down the road or suggest voting again to remain , the more likely it is that they'll lose the working class vote for decades to come. You'll see a further rise of right wing parties as working class people flock there. The rich 'go away EU taxes' element of the vote would donate to any number of mad men, as would the elderly. Best they see it through with political experience than hand the country to the likes of the BNP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,674 ✭✭✭elefant


    IAMAMORON wrote: »

    If you could give me 1 objective example of either person being racist I would be happy to agree with you. Good luck with that.

    Flag-waving piccaninnies with watermelon smiles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    All 3 of your points are based on here say, for both men.

    Nobody gets to run a country and be stupid at the same time. Anyone who thinks so is naïve.

    If you could give me 1 objective example of either person being racist I would be happy to agree with you. Good luck with that.

    George W. thick as mud.
    Trump telling the squad to go back where they came from followed up by lies about them, they called America garbage etc.
    Talking about grabbing women etc. Gent.
    Boris on Burkas: "I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes."
    Described gay men as "tank-topped bumboys."

    You can re-write what racist means and argue that it's lost all meaning, which is very beneficial for anyone being racist.


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