Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

ohnonotgmail

cryptocurrency wrote: »

tomorrow

we shall see if your miserable prediction skills have improved.

FrancieBrady

My betting is on a 'big reveal' that will allow Boris to stall the whole project again.

cryptocurrency

FrancieBrady wrote: »

My betting is on a 'big reveal' that will allow Boris to stall the whole project again.

and kill the tory party as a political force

The membership is over 80% for leave and leave fairly hard

FrancieBrady

cryptocurrency wrote: »

and kill the tory party as a political force

The membership is over 80% for leave and leave fairly hard

Oh stop with the melodramatics...nobody nor no event has managed to 'kill' the Tory party in the history of the UK nor the Labour party either.

It's like those here who thought that FF were finished as a party. Wishful thinking clouded by political naivety.

cryptocurrency

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Oh stop with the melodramatics...nobody nor no event has managed to 'kill' the Tory party in the history of the UK nor the Labour party either.

It's like those here who thought that FF were finished as a party. Wishful thinking clouded by political naivety.

screwing up the economy like FF is different to the doubling down on brexit whihc the tories have had to survive. There is no going back from this even if they are presnted with many forks and obstacles, it will and has to happen.

The rest is wishful thinking on your side.

FrancieBrady

cryptocurrency wrote: »

screwing up the economy like FF is different to the doubling down on brexit whihc the tories have had to survive. There is no going back from this even if they are presnted with many forks and obstacles, it will and has to happen.

The rest is wishful thinking on your side.

What 'wishful thinking'?

Have you watched the last 3 to 4 years? :rolleyes:

cryptocurrency

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What 'wishful thinking'?

Have you watched the last 3 to 4 years? :rolleyes:

Yes and I seen it evolve to today

FrancieBrady

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Yes and I seen it evolve to today

You have been embarrassingly wrong before, you should learn your lesson.

As I said, it was only last night that the BBC had any kind of an expert look at what life will be like outside the EU and it is that realisation that could still derail this so far, unrealisable Brexit.

KildareP

cryptocurrency wrote: »

The UK has a destination and by hook or by crook it will get there and that is to not be subjected to the rules of the EU, esp in terms of it's economy and it's global ambitions.

It has no more a destination than me deciding to cancel my car insurance and tax because I refuse to be beholden to the rules of the road and pay the government and the insurance companies vast amounts of money every year that I feel could be better spent elsewhere.

I still need to get to work every day.

I still need to go do my shopping in the nearest town every week.

I still want to be able to get around.

cryptocurrency wrote:

UK will leave and will prosper. The UK economic model needs not to be tied with over regulation and this is what the EU fears most. I understand the EU fears as the UK will make mince meat of their socialist agenda on a head to head on trade and the rest will wake up to it.
The scream from the EU is absolute hysterics and desperatation.

So why hasn't it then?
The only reason the UK has not yet left the EU yet is because of the UK.
Nobody else!

As for the EU, at this stage a lot of it's leaders are wishing the UK would just leave already and actually make a bloody decision for once.

The EU has stopped caring.

cryptocurrency wrote:

Boris wins a majority today then mark it down as the beginning of the end of the EU as we know it. This will lead to either big changes, huge ones or thye are toast.

The UK will thrive as this low regulation centre point in europe and will take a huge cultural shift for the EU to catch up.

Except economically it will no longer be in Europe.
It's goods heading into the European markets will become significantly more expensive overnight and, if as you state it plans to deregulate, then quality will naturally drop or it's goods won't be permitted into the EU at all because they fail the EU's minimum standards.

More expensive for lesser quality. A real double whammy.

What then? Who are they going to sell to?

cryptocurrency wrote: »

The choice for the UK is brexit and take trade to the rest of the world where it really is happening or stay in this inward looking club getting ever increaasing socialist and will eventually implode.

Anyone with a brain knows the EU is a leftist hellhole.

Again no-one can ever answer the question that if it's such an amazing plan, why has everyone else done the complete opposite?

Why is everyone else bothering to negotiate trade deals with the EU? Surely it's a complete waste of time!

Why have many key trading partners - Australia, New Zealand, Canada - stated a deal with the EU is more valuable to them than a UK one? Australia even recommending they'd rather than no deal with the UK whatsoever than risk souring a future deal with the EU by signing one?

cryptocurrency wrote: »

YOu are hanging on to the most pathetic and unimportant detail on the whole UK LEAVING THE EU FACT.

Again - no-one is stopping the UK leaving the EU but the UK. That's a fact.

Donald Trump

cryptocurrency wrote: »

I am saying that those who have been saying about the disaster that will happen to the UK over brexit has been wrong on everything and will continue to do so

Speaking about people getting things wrong, are you not one of these people who were going on about how Boris was definitely taking the UK out on 31st Oct................and then went very quiet after 1st Nov

cryptocurrency

Donald Trump wrote: »

Speaking about people getting things wrong, are you not one of these people who were going on about how Boris was definitely taking the UK out on 31st Oct................and then went very quiet after 1st Nov

is that all you got..that date. You are desperate now.

Everyone who uses the date as a response has lost straight away. It's meaningless and desperate.

cryptocurrency

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/dan-obrien-corbyn-may-take-britain-the-way-of-venezuela-but-a-labour-win-is-least-worst-outcome-for-ireland-38777272.html?fbclid=IwAR26RWpkSmlQVyi-eECYDHLMCbRVSlnhxP6oRBX5uyc8dkMxFuHzN8AHPS8

Great, there is some sort of delight in cheering the UK's implosion under labour here

FrancieBrady

cryptocurrency wrote: »

is that all you got..that date. You are desperate now.

Everyone who uses the date as a response has lost straight away. It's meaningless and desperate.

Lost what?

Cork Boy 53

cryptocurrency wrote: »

You make out the EU has power. It's a tin pot club of **** weak nations who if the UK took the shackles off could plough them into submission.

Can I have some of whatever it is you`re smoking there ? Most idiotic of a long list of idiotic comments by you.

Timberrrrrrrr

cryptocurrency wrote: »

is that all you got..that date. You are desperate now.

Everyone who uses the date as a response has lost straight away. It's meaningless and desperate.

At the leaders debates he promised they would leave on the 31st, he was asked if he was to become PM and they didn't leave on the 31st would he resign (in a live debate) and refused to answer the question because he knew it was impossible for it to happen.

Now he claims they will leave on the 31st january, screams "GET BREXIT DONE" at every opportunity without explaining how he will do it. Come january 31st they will still be in the EU, COme january 31st 2005 they will still begin the EU.

Just back from voting for Labour for the 1st time in many years.

Padre_Pio

I can only laugh at what Brexit has been reduced to.

From all the bluster and promises from Farage and Cameron's humiliating stepdown, all the ideals of Britain proudly exiting the EU, taking back that £350million for the NHS and setting the country up as an independent powerful nation, and now look at it.

Three years of absolutely shambolic leadership, broken promises, broken PMs, betrayals, sackings, resignations, scandals, borders in the Irish Sea, maybe no borders at all, divorce bill, hoarding food and medicines, the collapse of the Torys, the lack of faith in political institutions, Theresa May the embarrassment that sold the UK down the river with Chequers, Boris "Dead in a Ditch" Johnson, extensions, more extensions, deals made and rejected and made and rejected. Scottish Independence, maybe Welsh Independence, Northern Ireland abandoned, England split between Leavers and Remainers, Ireland and the EU holding strong. It makes me happy in a schadenfreude sense to see this misadventure go so horribly horribly wrong.

Millionaire only not

Padre_Pio wrote: »

I can only laugh at what Brexit has been reduced to.

From all the bluster and promises from Farage and Cameron's humiliating stepdown, all the ideals of Britain proudly exiting the EU, taking back that £350million for the NHS and setting the country up as an independent powerful nation, and now look at it.

Three years of absolutely shambolic leadership, broken promises, broken PMs, betrayals, sackings, resignations, scandals, borders in the Irish Sea, maybe no borders at all, divorce bill, hoarding food and medicines, the collapse of the Torys, the lack of faith in political institutions, Theresa May the embarrassment that sold the UK down the river with Chequers, Boris "Dead in a Ditch" Johnson, extensions, more extensions, deals made and rejected and made and rejected. Scottish Independence, maybe Welsh Independence, Northern Ireland abandoned, England split between Leavers and Remainers, Ireland and the EU holding strong. It makes me happy in a schadenfreude sense to see this misadventure go so horribly horribly wrong.

Horribly wrong for them we hope !
Were bad enough, Our crowd can’t build a hospital much less buy a printer without blowing every last shilling!

cryptocurrency

Padre_Pio wrote: »

I can only laugh at what Brexit has been reduced to.

From all the bluster and promises from Farage and Cameron's humiliating stepdown, all the ideals of Britain proudly exiting the EU, taking back that £350million for the NHS and setting the country up as an independent powerful nation, and now look at it.

Three years of absolutely shambolic leadership, broken promises, broken PMs, betrayals, sackings, resignations, scandals, borders in the Irish Sea, maybe no borders at all, divorce bill, hoarding food and medicines, the collapse of the Torys, the lack of faith in political institutions, Theresa May the embarrassment that sold the UK down the river with Chequers, Boris "Dead in a Ditch" Johnson, extensions, more extensions, deals made and rejected and made and rejected. Scottish Independence, maybe Welsh Independence, Northern Ireland abandoned, England split between Leavers and Remainers, Ireland and the EU holding strong. It makes me happy in a schadenfreude sense to see this misadventure go so horribly horribly wrong.

These comments make me laugh and are so poorly thought out.

UK is about to leave, it will be fine. The economic disaster predicted has not happen nor will happen. Scottish or Welsh independance will not happen and is clear to anyone who has the slightest idea what is happening in the UK. Northern Ireland, basket case...Brits want rid but it will bankrupt Ireland, be careful what you wish for.

England split? Remainers are gullible, they buy the fear and wonder if they will have sky movies next year, they are not important and will soon realise that they are panicking over nothing and will move on to their next fear...probaly something to do with which gender they are or prozac. The nation will move on a prosper.
A majority today will be the first step on the road to recovery. Cameron got a majority in 2015 on the promise of the vote and had to follow through, the tories lives depend on it. It is the same today about Boris and Brexit.
History will not be kind to May, Bercow and the last parliament but the UK moves on.
Majority today puts no deal back onthe table and gives the remainiacs very little they can do about it. We could see as october closed in the EU feared no deal and was helped scupper it by the remainers. It MUST comeback if the UK is to get a serious deal in 2020.

We will still see people here talk of the "brexit shambles" of 2016-2019 like it means anything in 2020 but it won't and while it is not straigh forward, the destination will be the same in a few years and it is what most brexiteers want.

Let the games commence. Oh and any tips how to make a border poll happen now will be gratefully accepted in westminster.

cryptocurrency

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cryptocurrency wrote: »

Majority today puts no deal back onthe table and gives the remainiacs very little they can do about it.

That depends on the size of the majority, less than 20 and no deal might not be workable.

However I expect that they'll get 350+ seats and that will be enough to push through no deal if they want to

Loafing Oaf

8-10 wrote: »

That depends on the size of the majority, less than 20 and no deal might not be workable.

Have the Tories not been purged of virtually all dissent on Brexit though? Would not any majority, well at least 5 or 6 say, give BJ a free hand?

8-10

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Have the Tories not been purged of virtually all dissent on Brexit though? Would not any majority, well at least 5 or 6 say, give BJ a free hand?

For a deal, yes. If they intend on pushing through no deal I'd imagine there would be dissent as there's definitely tory seats with constituencies that would be significantly affected by a no deal so that's where it might get murky

KildareP

cryptocurrency wrote: »

UK is about to leave, it will be fine. The economic disaster predicted has not happen nor will happen

So it's going to be absolutely fine for the UK.
Yet you'd have us believe it's going to herald the swift yet painful implosion of the EU.

cryptocurrency wrote: »

These comments make me laugh and are so poorly thought out.

Donald Trump

cryptocurrency wrote: »

is that all you got..that date. You are desperate now.

Everyone who uses the date as a response has lost straight away. It's meaningless and desperate.

It didn't appear meaningless to a certain subset of posters on here in the weeks leading up to it when they were guaranteeing with gleeful certainty of their glorious exit from the EU on that date. :pac:

Am not sure what I'm supposed to have lost though. I don't feel any difference than before I made that post. Anyway, you seem to be stuck in some personal deluded fantasy world so maybe in that world I've lost something.

jmayo

Padre_Pio wrote: »

I can only laugh at what Brexit has been reduced to.


Three years of absolutely shambolic leadership, broken promises, broken PMs, betrayals, sackings, resignations, scandals, borders in the Irish Sea, maybe no borders at all, divorce bill, hoarding food and medicines, the collapse of the Torys, the lack of faith in political institutions, Theresa May the embarrassment that sold the UK down the river with Chequers, Boris "Dead in a Ditch" Johnson, extensions, more extensions, deals made and rejected and made and rejected. Scottish Independence, maybe Welsh Independence, Northern Ireland abandoned, England split between Leavers and Remainers, Ireland and the EU holding strong. It makes me happy in a schadenfreude sense to see this misadventure go so horribly horribly wrong.

You could put some music to those words and it would remind me of the heroin fueled Trainspotting.

Oh and this picture I think sums up some Brexiters.

MadYaker

cryptocurrency wrote: »

These comments make me laugh and are so poorly thought out.

UK is about to leave, it will be fine. The economic disaster predicted has not happen nor will happen. Scottish or Welsh independance will not happen and is clear to anyone who has the slightest idea what is happening in the UK. Northern Ireland, basket case...Brits want rid but it will bankrupt Ireland, be careful what you wish for.

England split? Remainers are gullible, they buy the fear and wonder if they will have sky movies next year, they are not important and will soon realise that they are panicking over nothing and will move on to their next fear...probaly something to do with which gender they are or prozac. The nation will move on a prosper.
A majority today will be the first step on the road to recovery. Cameron got a majority in 2015 on the promise of the vote and had to follow through, the tories lives depend on it. It is the same today about Boris and Brexit.
History will not be kind to May, Bercow and the last parliament but the UK moves on.
Majority today puts no deal back onthe table and gives the remainiacs very little they can do about it. We could see as october closed in the EU feared no deal and was helped scupper it by the remainers. It MUST comeback if the UK is to get a serious deal in 2020.

We will still see people here talk of the "brexit shambles" of 2016-2019 like it means anything in 2020 but it won't and while it is not straigh forward, the destination will be the same in a few years and it is what most brexiteers want.

Let the games commence. Oh and any tips how to make a border poll happen now will be gratefully accepted in westminster.

Do you think the UK is in a better place now than it was before the 2016 referendum?

I hope this will be over soon one way or another but I don't think a hard brexit will happen either way, we saw what happened in parliament last time with Tory defections etc. They'll have to negotiate some sort of a deal and get it through parliament and I don't think this election will make that any easier. I think were in for several more years of this dues the UKs inability to decide what it wants.

Padre_Pio

cryptocurrency wrote: »

These comments make me laugh and are so poorly thought out.

UK is about to leave, it will be fine. The economic disaster predicted has not happen nor will happen. Scottish or Welsh independance will not happen and is clear to anyone who has the slightest idea what is happening in the UK. Northern Ireland, basket case...Brits want rid but it will bankrupt Ireland, be careful what you wish for.

England split? Remainers are gullible, they buy the fear and wonder if they will have sky movies next year, they are not important and will soon realise that they are panicking over nothing and will move on to their next fear...probaly something to do with which gender they are or prozac. The nation will move on a prosper.
A majority today will be the first step on the road to recovery. Cameron got a majority in 2015 on the promise of the vote and had to follow through, the tories lives depend on it. It is the same today about Boris and Brexit.
History will not be kind to May, Bercow and the last parliament but the UK moves on.
Majority today puts no deal back onthe table and gives the remainiacs very little they can do about it. We could see as october closed in the EU feared no deal and was helped scupper it by the remainers. It MUST comeback if the UK is to get a serious deal in 2020.

We will still see people here talk of the "brexit shambles" of 2016-2019 like it means anything in 2020 but it won't and while it is not straigh forward, the destination will be the same in a few years and it is what most brexiteers want.

Let the games commence. Oh and any tips how to make a border poll happen now will be gratefully accepted in westminster.

See that lads, thats your typical Jeremy Clarkson, Nigel Farage esque little englander. Best of luck to your country when you're happy to f*ck half the population over.

Nate--IRL--

Padre_Pio wrote: »

See that lads, thats your typical Jeremy Clarkson, Nigel Farage esque little englander. Best of luck to your country when you're happy to f*ck half the population over.

As much as I hate Jeremy Clarkson, he's a very ardent remainer.

Nate

easypazz

368 seats for boris according to exit poll.

buried

Not surprising. Sure let them have at it. At least this now means we can get our own General election here in Ireland now this crew will get their ready brexit passed. No more excuses.