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Rock on, Rockall! (it's back)

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    #782
    Nobelium
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    recedite wrote: »
    I was waiting for that :D
    A classic example of an ad hominem logical fallacy.

    Yep, if you can't handle the facts and have no factual counter argument, you can always resort to name calling.
    You'd think even school kids would be taught this is a massive logical fail.


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    #783
    jmayo
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    Who can be bothered making logical arguments.

    It's friday fooking evening you loons.

    FFS this place is getting worse.


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    #784
    Nobelium
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    jmayo wrote: »
    Who can be bothered making logical arguments.

    It's friday fooking evening you loons.

    FFS this place is getting worse.

    lets pray you're not handling any rockall negotiations then, or we'd be screwed.


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    #785
    Junkyard Tom
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    RobMc59 wrote: »
    I agree,Britain and Ireland have a special relationship

    Maybe the people do, some of them at least, but the states don't. The British state's involvement in Ireland has been a curse for the vast majority of the population - our history is testament to that.
    which should transcend whatever is happening over the EU

    We've nailed our colours to the mast and that mast has an EU flag on it. It's a shame British politicians, particularly Tories, can't seem to get to grips with that.


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    #786
    steddyeddy
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    recedite wrote: »
    I was waiting for that :D
    A classic example of an ad hominem logical fallacy.

    It's not a fact, it's an opinion.


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    #787
    janfebmar
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    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Maybe the people do, some of them at least, but the states don't. The British state's involvement in Ireland has been a curse for the vast majority of the population - our history is testament to that.



    We've nailed our colours to the mast and that mast has an EU flag on it. It's a shame British politicians, particularly Tories, can't seem to get to grips with that.

    If you google it you will see that it is estimated that as many as six million people living in the UK have an Irish-born grandparent (around 10% of the UK population). The 2001 UK Census states that 869,093 people born in Ireland are living in Great Britain. The vast majority seem to be getting on well, or they would have returned home. There are a huge amount of people in Ireland with links to Britain too. We have been moving over and back for centuries. The histories of these islands are intertwined, like it or not. We are much more like Liverpool than Leipzig or Lisbon.


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    #788
    FrancieBrady
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    janfebmar wrote: »
    If you google it you will see that it is estimated that as many as six million people living in the UK have an Irish-born grandparent (around 10% of the UK population). The 2001 UK Census states that 869,093 people born in Ireland are living in Great Britain. The vast majority seem to be getting on well, or they would have returned home. There are a huge amount of people in Ireland with links to Britain too. We have been moving over and back for centuries. The histories of these islands are intertwined, like it or not. We are much more like Liverpool than Leipzig or Lisbon.

    We are in the EU...not the UK. You may want, and are fully free to re-locate. :)


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    #789
    Atlantic Dawn
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    RobMc59 wrote: »
    I agree,Britain and Ireland have a special relationship which should transcend whatever is happening over the EU and having reciprocal agreements to allow each other access to fish each other's waters is the sensible thing to do imo.


    Yes but you can't do deals outside the EU, you are either in or out, we can't do deals when the UK have left to allow them to sell us parsnips for x price when the rest of the EU has tariffs at y for imported parsnips from outside the EU.


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    Nobelium wrote: »
    You snooze you loose [sp] Ireland...

    Is that your explanation of how the UK lost the 26 counties, eh ? :pac::p


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    #791
    janfebmar
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    We are in the EU...not the UK. You may want, and are fully free to re-locate. :)

    Its not a question of relocating, although many people do move between these islands, we are natural partners. We have freedom of movement, and it is only right that we can fish in their waters, and they can fish in our waters. The EU should not stop that.


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    #792
    FrancieBrady
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    janfebmar wrote: »
    Its not a question of relocating, although many people do move between these islands, we are natural partners. We have freedom of movement, and it is only right that we can fish in their waters, and they can fish in our waters. The EU should not stop that.

    The EU aren't stopping it...the UK/Scot think they can.


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    #793
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    janfebmar wrote: »
    Its not a question of relocating, although many people do move between these islands, we are natural partners. We have freedom of movement, and it is only right that we can fish in their waters, and they can fish in our waters. The EU should not stop that.

    No, I think You'll find that was the Scots (threatening at least).


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    #794
    Junkyard Tom
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    janfebmar wrote: »
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    janfebmar wrote: »
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    janfebmar
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    The EU aren't stopping it...the UK/Scot think they can.

    We insist on the backstop and piss off the British, and arrest 2 of their trawlers off Louth, I am not surprised they are reminding us of the legal position over Rockall should they wish to enforce it.


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    #796
    FrancieBrady
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    janfebmar wrote: »
    We insist on the backstop and piss off the British, and arrest 2 of their trawlers off Louth, I am not surprised they are reminding us of the legal position over Rockall should they wish to enforce it.

    The 'Backstop' is a British invention.


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    janfebmar
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    The 'Backstop' is a British invention.
    And insisted on by our government.


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    #798
    Junkyard Tom
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    When are the 'Vichy Irish' going to learn that we are the EU?


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    FrancieBrady
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    janfebmar wrote: »
    And insisted on by our government.

    The EU want the British to comply with a mechanism they invented.


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    janfebmar wrote: »
    We insist on the backstop and piss off the British, and arrest 2 of their trawlers off Louth, I am not surprised they are reminding us of the legal position over Rockall should they wish to enforce it.

    Ah, I see where you've gone wrong.

    This has got nothing to do with pissing off the British. That's what exporting Mrs Brown is for.

    The backstop is to stop the DUP wet dream of a hard border*



















    * That it pisses off the Tories is only a bonus :p


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    #801
    janfebmar
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    The EU want the British to comply with a mechanism they invented.
    Do not blame the EU, is is us insisting on the backstop. Heinz from Hanover does not care.


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    #802
    FrancieBrady
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    janfebmar wrote: »
    Do not blame the EU, is is us insisting on the backstop. Heinz from Hanover does not care.

    Here is Jean-Claude from Luxembourg with the not insignificant job of President Of The EU Commission:
    The backstop is an integral part of the Withdrawal Agreement. While we hope the backstop will not need to be used, it is a necessary legal guarantee to protect peace and to ensure there will be no return to a hard border on the island of Ireland, while protecting the integrity of our Single Market and the Customs Union.


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    #803
    Nobelium
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    Rockhall . . like provo catnip . . .the British own it and it's resources since 1955, the Irish missed the boat.


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    Nobelium wrote: »
    the Irish missed the rock.

    Fyp.

    Every castle paddy is forgetting that even if Ireland recognised the UK claim to Rockall it'd be irrelevant while we are both in the EU. :rolleyes:


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    Atlantic Dawn
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    Nobelium wrote: »
    Rockhall . . like provo catnip . . .the British own it and it's resources since 1955, the Irish missed the boat.


    They also 'owned' Hong Kong, only 6000 miles from London. In other news slavery has been abolished.


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    #806
    FrancieBrady
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    Nobelium wrote: »
    Rockhall . . like provo catnip . . .the British own it and it's resources since 1955, the Irish missed the boat.

    We have been fishing away around it regardless of them and we'll continue to do it.

    Boris has other fish to fry..so to speak.


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    #807
    Nobelium
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    They also 'owned' Hong Kong, only 6000 miles from London.

    Nope, they leased Hong Kong, they never owned it. Do a little research lads.


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    #808
    FrancieBrady
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    Nobelium wrote: »
    Nope, they leased Hong Kong, they never owned it. Do a little research lads.

    They thought they could bully their way to staying there too...until somebody pulled out a bigger gun...Research lad.


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    #809
    Nobelium
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    They thought they could bully their way to staying there too...until somebody pulled out a bigger gun...Research lad.

    obsessed with gun love and terrorism aren't ye


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    Atlantic Dawn
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    Such a trailer trash country where they pillaged and raped the entire earth, bloody disgrace.


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    #811
    Nobelium
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Such a trailer trash country where the majority of them don't know the history of the country they live in where it basically pillaged and raped the entire earth, bloody disgrace.

    bit hard on the Irish, most of them are not that bad


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