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Woman shot & killed in Derry being treated as a terrorist incident MOD WARNING IN OP

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    #182
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Appalling,senseless and cowardice.


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    #183
    zapitastas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 498 ✭✭zapitastas


    markodaly wrote: »
    Thats not true at all. 7 nationalists MP's in Westminister could actually do alot. We see the power the DUP wield at the moment with 10 MP's.

    A vote for SF in any Westminister election is a wasted vote. You may as well just not vote at all.

    The title of the Tory party are conservative and unionist. They are fellow travellers with the DUP. SF would have no place in Westminster.

    The central issue is that the British should have no role in Irish affairs and the likewise the Irish have no business interfering in British affairs.


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    #184
    Lavinia
    Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    Cannot read all 10+ pages of this but just thought to say I am surprised that - not being for the woman killed - we'd not even hear about the riots in Derry.

    Why is this I wonder.


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    #185
    branie2
    Registered Users Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Very sad


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    #186
    markodaly
    Registered Users Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Well sure given that you've been shut down so repeatedly on this in the Brexit thread you're right to give it another go elsewhere.

    Erm, what? I don't think I have posted in a Brexit thread, well in about ever.


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    #187
    markodaly
    Registered Users Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Mollyb60 wrote: »

    And SF run their campaigns on the promise that they won't take their seats in Westminster. So the people who still vote for them accept that fact and are happy to give them the mandate to represent them all the same.

    This is the problem right here and I would imagine now, that the folly of this strategy has come home to roost. Perhaps next time people may think twice.


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    #188
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,779 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Lavinia wrote: »
    Cannot read all 10+ pages of this but just thought to say I am surprised that - not being for the woman killed - we'd not even hear about the riots in Derry.

    Why is this I wonder.

    Because you made it up.


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    #189
    markodaly
    Registered Users Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    zapitastas wrote: »
    The title of the Tory party are conservative and unionist. They are fellow travellers with the DUP. SF would have no place in Westminster.

    The central issue is that the British should have no role in Irish affairs and the likewise the Irish have no business interfering in British affairs.

    In fairness, this is codswallop.

    There are other parties in Westminister and interests at play here.
    NI until a border poll decrees it, is part of the United Kingdom and therefore it is in one's interest to have a voice at the table.

    The rest is the justification of zealots and headbangers. Moral and ideological purity is at play here and we can see the manifestation of that, shooting dead a young woman.


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    #190
    lawred2
    Registered Users Posts: 24,297 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    markodaly wrote: »
    Erm, what? I don't think I have posted in a Brexit thread, well in about ever.

    Oh well just another one of your clones trotting out the same tripe


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    #191
    markodaly
    Registered Users Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Oh well just another one of your clones trotting out the same tripe

    What are you on about? Please speak English as you are making a fool of yourself.


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    #192
    Liamalone
    Registered Users Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Liamalone


    A 15yr old boy is getting the blame locally on 'social media'.

    Edit: has been arrested.


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    #193
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    markodaly wrote: »
    This is the problem right here and I would imagine now, that the folly of this strategy has come home to roost. Perhaps next time people may think twice.


    You obviously know nothing about the north if you think people will move away from SF because of this strategy. What dont you understand? SF say they will not take seat if elected, they get elected and do as they promise, people continue to vote for them, its pretty simple really, even you should have the capacity to understand it.


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    #194
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Liamalone wrote: »
    A 15yr old boy is getting the blame locally on 'social media'.

    Edit: has been arrested.


    Is that on a news report? having a look and don't see anything,


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    #195
    Liamalone
    Registered Users Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Liamalone


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Is that on a news report? having a look and don't see anything,

    A friend told me, named him also.


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    #196
    citytillidie
    Registered Users Posts: 22,042 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Lavinia wrote: »
    Cannot read all 10+ pages of this but just thought to say I am surprised that - not being for the woman killed - we'd not even hear about the riots in Derry.

    Why is this I wonder.

    Lies it was on the news last night before the lady died

    ******



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    #197
    Laois_Man
    Registered Users Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    boardise wrote: »
    'Saoradh ' ? ... Is this the Gaelic for 'Sarah' ?

    It's Gaelic for "Liberation"


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    #198
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    lawred2 wrote: »
    What has this got to do with SF?

    Maybe get down off that hobby horse and knock off the grandstanding

    The IRA and it's derivatives have everything got to do with Sinn Fein. Sinn Fein have to be doing everything it can to denounce any sort of violence or any sort of undemocratic achievement of a United Ireland.

    But no, you have their leader walking through New York holding an "England get out of Ireland" banner. They've a disgusting history, and they're not doing enough to disown it.

    I'd never vote for a United Ireland. What happened to that poor young girl is disgusting. **** those who did it and their disgusting nationalism. We want nothing to do with that **** here in Ireland.


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    #199
    NIMAN
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    If true, it shows how heroic the new leaders of this breakaway group are.

    Why would I take a gun and shoot at the police, heavily armed who might fire back at me?

    Sure I'll hand the gun to a 15 yr old kid, and let him do the shooting.

    That way if any sh1t happens, I'm off scot free


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    #200
    Lavinia
    Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    citytillidie wrote: »
    Lies it was on the news last night before the lady died
    any link to those news but from before she was killed? i cannot seem to find it. i tried.


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    #201
    NIMAN
    Registered Users Posts: 33,203 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    As someone who hopes to live to see a United Ireland, if this is what's needed to bring about, then count me out.

    It's not worth any more human lives.


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    #202
    Junkyard Tom
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    markodaly wrote: »
    7 nationalists MP's in Westminister could actually do alot.

    This has been dismantled and sunk numerous times yet you still seem not to get it.


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    #203
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    NIMAN wrote: »
    As someone who hopes to live to see a United Ireland, if this is what's needed to bring about, then count me out.

    It's not worth any more human lives.

    I think this is a perfect summation of the attitude of most reasonable people in the South. Most probably favour a United Ireland, but not at the expense of these sorts of acts. These "Republicans" that murder innocent people are shunned by the citizens of the Republic they wish to be part of.


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    #204
    cameramonkey
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    Amirani wrote: »
    I think this is a perfect summation of the attitude of most reasonable people in the South. Most probably favour a United Ireland, but not at the expense of these sorts of acts. These "Republicans" that murder innocent people are shunned by the citizens of the Republic they wish to be part of.


    So you change you mind about a perfectly reasonable aspiration a United Ireland because some uneducated person (probably a teenage) take a shot at some police and kills an innocent woman.



    Do you let the actions of idiots in general change you political ideas?


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    #205
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    As a republican I have to say I'm disgusted to what happened to this woman.i really really had hope the violence was behind us at this stage. RIP to that woman.
    I hope anyone involved has the book thrown at them.


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    #206
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,993 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    It struck me yesterday as Pellosi was talking that there are far too many people still clapping themselves and select others on the back for the GFA.

    Your word 'commemorating' is apposite because the GFA is dead atm. And it has stagnated and failed to deliver fully. One of the reasons a lot have been left behind.
    This killing is the culmination of stagnation that far too many have been willing to ignore.
    NIMAN wrote: »
    As someone who hopes to live to see a United Ireland, if this is what's needed to bring about, then count me out.
    It's not worth any more human lives.
    It would be even worse if somebody had deliberately cranked things up for the Pelosi visit.
    If minor political "points scoring" is the result they were after, then its not exactly a great victory.
    The most powerful US Democrat, Nancy Pelosi, visited the border and delivered a stark message.
    If the UK's manner of leaving the EU damages the Good Friday Agreement then forget about a US-UK trade deal.
    "That's just not on the cards if there's any harm done to the Good Friday accords," she said.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-47979214
    Its not even The Whitehouse saying that, its their opposition.


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    #207
    Jurgen Klopp
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    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    This has been dismantled and sunk numerous times yet you still seem not to get it.

    3 posts from you so far and not a word condemning these "republican" arse holes just doing all you can to ensure the blame is firmly directed at the DUP

    Says a fcuking lot


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    #208
    noodler
    Registered Users Posts: 26,312 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    So you change you mind about a perfectly reasonable aspiration a United Ireland because some uneducated person (probably a teenage) take a shot at some police and kills an innocent woman.



    Do you let the actions of idiots in general change you political ideas?

    Well, that wasn't at all what was said.


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    #209
    markodaly
    Registered Users Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    You obviously know nothing about the north if you think people will move away from SF because of this strategy. What dont you understand? SF say they will not take seat if elected, they get elected and do as they promise, people continue to vote for them, its pretty simple really, even you should have the capacity to understand it.

    Oh, I understand it alright, and I think its patiently and obviously retarded. But there you go, that is the North for ya. They deserve each other.


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    #210
    markodaly
    Registered Users Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    This has been dismantled and sunk numerous times yet you still seem not to get it.

    Dismantled and sunk numerous times by whom exactly? You, as if you are the moral authority on the topic?

    It is funny though in a thread about a young woman shot dead by IRA wannabe nationalistic scumbags you want to wade in with the crap and defense you spout numerous times when it comes to SF/IRA and their awful history of violence on this island.

    Maybe you should cop yourself on like a good lad.


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    #211
    markodaly
    Registered Users Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    3 posts from you so far and not a word condemning these "republican" arse holes just doing all you can to ensure the blame is firmly directed at the DUP

    Says a fcuking lot

    100%

    Much to say about da Brits and the DUP at any given opportunity but when their ideological kin murder a woman for the Irish cause..... tumbleweeds....

    It's pathetic really.


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