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Leaf e+ 62kWh

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    #242
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Have to say I can't wait to test drive one. 215 Hp. Nice but it will be heavier.

    Someone said here a while back they had planned to sort the wheel spin issue but haven't seen anything to confirm that.

    Pity Nissan in Carlow are gone.


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    #243
    Mike9832
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭Mike9832


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Have to say I can't wait to test drive one. 215 Hp. Nice but it will be heavier.

    Someone said here a while back they had planned to sort the wheel spin issue but haven't seen anything to confirm that.

    Pity Nissan in Carlow are gone.

    Will be some machine alright

    Will pull like a train with that 215bhp

    I like the look of the new Leaf too

    Pity it's so expensive

    For sure I would have one if it was reasonably priced, €30,000-€33,000

    Got a great review here, cooling looks to be improved massively

    https://insideevs.com/reviews/348996/nissan-leaf-e-pus-review-drive/


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    #244
    DrPhilG
    Registered Users Posts: 12,226 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    You'll be sticking a deposit down I'd say...


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    #245
    [Deleted User]
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    Any word on the AC charger ?


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    #246
    Mike9832
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭Mike9832


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    You'll be sticking a deposit down I'd say...

    Be nice


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    #247
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    You'll be sticking a deposit down I'd say...

    The “buy once buy right” motto seems to have been forgotten

    Also the “5 second car”

    Hahaha


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    #248
    Mike9832
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭Mike9832


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    The “buy once buy right” motto seems to have been forgotten

    Also the “5 second car”

    Hahaha

    Why are you ganging up?


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    #249
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    DrPhilG and Shefwedfan banned from thread until Wednesday morning


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    #250
    Soarer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,865 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Mike9832 wrote: »
    Will be some machine alright

    Will pull like a train with that 215bhp

    I like the look of the new Leaf too

    Pity it's so expensive

    For sure I would have one if it was reasonably priced, €30,000-€33,000

    Got a great review here, cooling looks to be improved massively

    https://insideevs.com/reviews/348996/nissan-leaf-e-pus-review-drive/

    That link is sickening.
    The L62 can be had for less than $25k stateside.
    Will end up being the guts of €40k here.


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    #251
    Old diesel
    Registered Users Posts: 5,788 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    The test Mike links - does seem to fit nicely into Nissans use pattern for the car.

    And that really is the problem with Nissan...

    The 500 miles a day thing is a touch overdone by EV critics

    But flexibility in usage of the car is important.

    The test looks to have been a 200 odd mile to get there - stay a night or 2 and return.

    Even with full on rapidgate knowing all possible problem scenarios - an L40 will do that.

    Yes it does look like the temp gain is reduced which is good.

    But id like to see how the 350/400 mile in a day scenario plays out.

    That's where the cooling could really struggle.


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    #252
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Soarer wrote: »
    That link is sickening.
    The L62 can be had for less than $25k stateside.
    Will end up being the guts of €40k here.

    That's because in the USA you don't get paid for having Kids or get a house, food, clothes , college or healthcare etc compliments of the taxpayer if you can't afford it. Here you do.


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    #253
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Price and charge points, 20 million allocated, this is 11 th May and no sign of new ESB chargers ! not looking good.


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    #254
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,170 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Price and charge points, 20 million allocated, this is 11 th May and no sign of new ESB chargers ! not looking good.

    Not supposed to start until September at the earliest so hardly surprising.....


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    #255
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That’s a complete and utter joke !


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    #256
    Mike9832
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭Mike9832


    Soarer wrote: »
    That link is sickening.
    The L62 can be had for less than $25k stateside.
    Will end up being the guts of €40k here.

    Were a treasure island for them


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    #257
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Any dates for the release of the price of L62?


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    #258
    Irishjg
    Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭Irishjg


    Sad to say the leaf60 is DOA. No proper TMS and still Chademo DC rather than CCS. Add in the extra bonus of the cost @ circa 43K . I can't see many reasons why somebody one buy one .


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    #259
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Irishjg wrote: »
    Sad to say the leaf60 is DOA. No proper TMS and still Chademo DC rather than CCS. Add in the extra bonus of the cost @ circa 43K . I can't see many reasons why somebody one buy one .

    You're correct, no one would pay 43 K for a Nissan Hatch even if it has 215 Hp.

    Although a GTI Golf would cost probably 50 K with decent spec.

    Tax is the real issue , we get continuously raped with tax here for everything and we continue to accept it.


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    #260
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    Will the new ESB chargers have ChaDeMo and will they support 100 Kw ? if not I certainly wouldn't touch a 62 Kwh Leaf, not a hope in hell. Imagine a 60 Kwh car handicapped at 50 Kw charging ? ridiculous.


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    #261
    Soarer
    Registered Users Posts: 8,865 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Irishjg wrote: »
    Sad to say the leaf60 is DOA. No proper TMS and still Chademo DC rather than CCS. Add in the extra bonus of the cost @ circa 43K . I can't see many reasons why somebody one buy one .

    Don't kid yourself. They'll fly out of the showrooms.


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    #262
    ethernet
    Registered Users Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭ethernet


    Soarer wrote: »
    Don't kid yourself. They'll fly out of the showrooms.

    I think you’re right. Ready availability of the car would be a big plus over its rivals.


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    #263
    charlieIRL
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,190 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    Soarer wrote: »
    Don't kid yourself. They'll fly out of the showrooms.

    The day i was in the nissan garage there was 15 ready to go out the door, all plated up ready for collection. Most of them we larger 60kWh ones.


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    #264
    KCross
    Registered Users Posts: 12,090 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Will the new ESB chargers have ChaDeMo and will they support 100 Kw ?

    Thats what eCars have tendered for (100kW CHAdeMO)... whether thats what they actually put on the ground is unknown.


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    #265
    Mike9832
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭Mike9832


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Will the new ESB chargers have ChaDeMo and will they support 100 Kw ? if not I certainly wouldn't touch a 62 Kwh Leaf, not a hope in hell. Imagine a 60 Kwh car handicapped at 50 Kw charging ? ridiculous.

    Even on a long journey its not a big deal

    500km trip, you'll only need a 45min charge @ 50kW

    Theyll sell well unfortunately


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    #266
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,565 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    KCross wrote: »
    Thats what eCars have tendered for (100kW CHAdeMO)... whether thats what they actually put on the ground is unknown.


    They would be one of the first outside of APAC and one or two at dealerships. Chademo is limited to 50kW (43-45kW) generally.

    Mike9832 wrote: »
    Even on a long journey its not a big deal

    500km trip, you'll only need a 45min charge @ 50kW

    Theyll sell well unfortunately


    True but then you need a destination charger or you'll have to charge again at slower than 43kW (note, leaf is limited to 43-45kW on 50kW units)

    If they sell well, it's due to a dearth of supply of anything else. You can't even register for a Soul/e niro until 2020, TM3 not here yet, etc


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    #267
    kuro68k
    Registered Users Posts: 261 ✭✭kuro68k


    Soarer wrote: »
    That link is sickening.
    The L62 can be had for less than $25k stateside.
    Will end up being the guts of €40k here.

    £40k Sterling in the UK!

    If you want nice paint you have to pay Luxury Car Tax too, currently £320/year.

    The PCP deals on offer are really crap too. I was hoping they might improve because it's now a lot cheaper to own a Tesla Model 3 on PCP than it is to own a Leaf 62, which is a little bit crazy.


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    #268
    icom
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭icom


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Any dates for the release of the price of L62?


    It's on the Nissan.ie website. From €40,500 for the Leaf 62.

    https://www.nissan.ie/vehicles/new-vehicles/leaf/price-specifications.html#grade-ZE1-2

    From £35,895 in the UK

    https://www.nissan.co.uk/vehicles/new-vehicles/leaf/prices-specifications.html#grade-LEAFZE1A-3


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    #269
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,001 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    kuro68k wrote: »
    The PCP deals on offer are really crap too. I was hoping they might improve because it's now a lot cheaper to own a Tesla Model 3 on PCP than it is to own a Leaf 62

    You're confusing monthly PCP payments with cost of ownership. They are not the same as a lot of people have painfully found out!


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    #270
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mike9832 wrote: »
    Even on a long journey its not a big deal

    500km trip, you'll only need a 45min charge @ 50kW

    Theyll sell well unfortunately

    No big deal ? seriously ? 45 mins is too long................


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    #271
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,001 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    On a 500km trip my family and I would want to have lunch or dinner. And go to the bathroom. That would easily take the guts of 45 minutes even in a fast food place.


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