Dairy Chitchat 3

K.G.

alps wrote: »

Do you think the movies would be an outlet for them?

Planet of the jerseys

einn32

whelan2 wrote: »

There are so many variables though. Is the oh working? Kids in college? Childcare? Borrowings? ......

What's a living?

Mortelaro

whelan2 wrote: »

There are so many variables though. Is the oh working? Kids in college? Childcare? Borrowings? ......

Aye,I know at least 3 dairy farmers who tell you they're doing great
In reality,their other half's plump salary is paying for the groceries,the car,the kids education etc
As my father always said,nothing helps a farm more than a good laying hen or a good c0ck in the case of a farmerette
Processors love this
As a long term strategy for new entrants, they really should be looking at setting up a dairy match making service
Plenty single high sslaried employees in the processors to get it going

Millionaire only not

Mortelaro wrote: »

Aye,I know at least 3 dairy farmers who tell you they're doing great
In reality,their other half's plump salary is paying for the groceries,the car,the kids education etc
As my father always said,nothing helps a farm more than a good laying hen or a good c0ck in the case of a farmerette
Processors love this
As a long term strategy for new entrants, they really should be looking at setting up a dairy match making service
Plenty single high sslaried employees in the processors to get it going

Yes and u will go a long way to find full time farmers !
There is a huge difference when ever bill has to be paid from the farm !
I know farms where they have been in a position go just farm away kids house car third level all virtually ran from wife’s wages !
Match making service good idea pity wasn’t around when I was looking (wanted good looking wife , hard worker grossing over 60k a year )

straight

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

What about getting 2 livings from 100 cows?

That's not a one man operation then. Different story.

straight

einn32 wrote: »

What's a living?

Average industrial wage at least

yosemitesam1

straight wrote: »

Average industrial wage at least

Before or after loans/continued investment paid for?

Mooooo

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

Before or after loans/continued investment paid for?

Have to be after

mahoney_j

straight wrote: »

Average industrial wage at least

In reality some farmers and tegasc thru profit monitors would have us believe we work for nothing if they showed an accurate wage for hours worked the glossy looking picture would be well gone .throwing out cop of high teens low 20s is an insult

Buford T. Justice XIX

Debating whether to milk or not. The girls seem happy enough atm.

einn32

straight wrote: »

Average industrial wage at least

Last year a full time employee had average industrial earnings of €47,596 according to a journal.ie article. The average overall was €38,871.

GrasstoMilk

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Debating whether to milk or not. The girls seem happy enough atm.

Hows the grab going?.

Buford T. Justice XIX

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Hows the grab going?.

Great, tbh. I need a wall to push the squashed bales against to get a good hold of the plastic on those but I can work around them, mostly.

I'm keeping about 95% of the plastic and about 90% of the netting. The plastic can be pulled out from under the remains of the half bale the following day and the netting is the start of the net around the bale and no catcher is going to get that so that has to be pulled off by hand after feeding.

I'll be opening the pit next week so that will be a test as the teeth are about 3 inches shallower than the sides so there'll be a few tufts of silage left on the pit face, I'd say.

whelan2

What price are silage bales atm. Very good quality from reseeded new ground.

Millionaire only not

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Great, tbh. I need a wall to push the squashed bales against to get a good hold of the plastic on those but I can work around them, mostly.

I'm keeping about 95% of the plastic and about 90% of the netting. The plastic can be pulled out from under the remains of the half bale the following day and the netting is the start of the net around the bale and no catcher is going to get that so that has to be pulled off by hand after feeding.

I'll be opening the pit next week so that will be a test as the teeth are about 3 inches shallower than the sides so there'll be a few tufts of silage left on the pit face, I'd say.

I turn them push them down to the ground , I have a tanco on a Teleporter. the tanco bale shears only thing they ever managed to make right !
The Cashel and them might not work that way they look bigger

jaymla627

whelan2 wrote: »

What price are silage bales atm. Very good quality from reseeded new ground.

25 euro I'd reckon, getting beet delivered to yard washed for 40 euro ton, alot better value if set-up with diet feeder to chop and feed it out, has put some condition up on cows since they went on it a month ago

whelan2

jaymla627 wrote: »

25 euro I'd reckon, getting beet delivered to yard washed for 40 euro ton, alot better value if set-up with diet feeder to chop and feed it out, has put some condition up on cows since they went on it a month ago

I'm buying in bales at 25 delivered. I had a terrible year off farm, didnt get to make many bales.

straight

jaymla627 wrote: »

25 euro I'd reckon, getting beet delivered to yard washed for 40 euro ton, alot better value if set-up with diet feeder to chop and feed it out, has put some condition up on cows since they went on it a month ago

Is the beet good to milk off of in the spring?

jaymla627

straight wrote: »

Is the beet good to milk off of in the spring?

Milk through here all year round and cows are flying on it milk wise, using up a pit of fairly mediocre silage but the beet is compensating for it, big time....
Going pitting 350 ton of it after xmas for buffering with year round instead of silage, the shine and condition of the cows on it is something else

awaywithyou

jaymla627 wrote: »

Milk through here all year round and cows are flying on it milk wise, using up a pit of fairly mediocre silage but the beet is compensating for it, big time....
Going pitting 350 ton of it after xmas for buffering with year round instead of silage, the shine and condition of the cows on it is something else

sugar beet or fodder beet.....?

Panch18

jaymla627 wrote: »

Milk through here all year round and cows are flying on it milk wise, using up a pit of fairly mediocre silage but the beet is compensating for it, big time....
Going pitting 350 ton of it after xmas for buffering with year round instead of silage, the shine and condition of the cows on it is something else

Will you put something in the pit with it? Straw or maize?

What’s you’re approach to washing and chopping going to be?

jaymla627

awaywithyou wrote: »

sugar beet or fodder beet.....?

Its enermax, hybrid beet, sugar beet taints milk at higher feed rates, over 12kgs fresh, they're on 20kgs fresh at the minute and no issues

Mooooo

straight wrote: »

Is the beet good to milk off of in the spring?

Good in fairness, cow's go mad for it so if buffering would need plenty feed space or they'll blow each other out of it. A fair bit of work if you have to go washing and chopping yourself tho esp at calving time. Last time we had beet the diet was silage maize and beet and a 3 way mix. Fresh Cow's drove on and held condition. But there was two of us there then in the yard. Edit may have to balance it for minerals

jaymla627

Panch18 wrote: »

Will you put something in the pit with it? Straw or maize?

What’s you’re approach to washing and chopping going to be?

Tillage farmer will drop it up washed and chopped, will run through tub feeder then and mix in something like oat feed to soak up beet juices at a rate of 4 to 1, whatever can be got in bulk and cheap...will clamp it then pit needs to be long and narrow

jaymla627

Mooooo wrote: »

Good in fairness, cow's go mad for it so if buffering would need plenty feed space or they'll blow each other out of it. A fair bit of work if you have to go washing and chopping yourself tho esp at calving time. Last time we had beet the diet was silage maize and beet and a 3 way mix. Fresh Cow's drove on and held condition. But there was two of us there then in the yard

Get it delivered washed here and 14 cube tub will chop up 6 and a half ton in 10 minutes, keeps for 2-3 days perfect and put threw feeder as needed in tmr, alot less messing then bales if set-up right

Mooooo

Any of ye paint yer calving / calf sheds and if so what do ye use?. Would be a mix of old plastered block walls and mass concrete.

steer

jaymla627 wrote: »

25 euro I'd reckon, getting beet delivered to yard washed for 40 euro ton, alot better value if set-up with diet feeder to chop and feed it out, has put some condition up on cows since they went on it a month ago

How many kilos of beet are you feeding?

Base price

Mooooo wrote: »

Any of ye paint yer calving / calf sheds and if so what do ye use?. Would be a mix of old plastered block walls and mass concrete.

We clean out and power hose the calf rearing sheds during the Summer months and paint the dividing gates/feed barriers.
Our calf rearing sheds lay idle until the following Spring. I white wash the walls, gates and feed barriers to about 3' with a fluffy roller and hydrated lime. It has worked well for us over the years.

K.G.

Mooooo wrote: »

Any of ye paint yer calving / calf sheds and if so what do ye use?. Would be a mix of old plastered block walls and mass concrete.

Either "vanilla sundae"or "natural calico"

jaymla627

steer wrote: »

How many kilos of beet are you feeding?

20kgs freshweight a cow per day, same to incalf heifers and weanlings are on 10kgs