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Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

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    #4832
    [Deleted User]
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    Feisar wrote: »
    To be clear I hold no ire against the poor kids (not that my like or dislike matter a whit), however what hope do they have?

    We know nothing about the children, and we shouldn't be posting about them, except in the most abstract of sense. ie. how Cash's behavior or life choices are likely to affect their future. Commenting on how the children are now... is worse than useless. At least we can draw some details about the mothers life and behavior. Not so with the children.

    I say leave speaking specifically about the children out of the discussion entirely. The mothers behavior is damning enough.


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    #4833
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Prisoner 6753 wrote: »
    If she ain't poor she could have afforded her own accommodation then before going public with this well planned story that not only made national headlines but global headlines.

    I'm patiently awaiting to hear of other families pulling this stunt.

    Namely the 2 women in Co.Cork amongst others.

    Forget a mobile home and a caravan in a patch of grass in a housing estate, forget sleeping in tents on a beach, they should have camped in the garda station like Ms Cash the cute hoor.

    Certainly a big news story in Ireland but global headlines? I very much doubt that is the case.


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    #4834
    Foggy Jew
    Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭Foggy Jew


    jjmcclure wrote: »
    Putting all the ranting and raving aside, the majority here are rightly upset by what has happened and how it has been portrayed by the media.


    Should we start another thread for those who are opposed to what happened and craft a letter to the main media outlets and a formal complaint to RTE regarding the biased coverage of this story? We should also register the dissatisfaction of the silent majority with the government via our local TD's.


    I wonder how many boards users we could get to "sign" the letter? Could we start a movement here??

    Count me in. I am still incensed by this whole circus.

    It's the bally ballyness of it that makes it all seem so bally bally.



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    #4835
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Certainly a big news story in Ireland but global headlines? I very much doubt that is the case.

    It was posted several pages back it appeared in New Zealand


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    #4836
    dav3
    Registered Users Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    jjmcclure wrote: »
    Putting all the ranting and raving aside, the majority here are rightly upset by what has happened and how it has been portrayed by the media.


    Should we start another thread for those who are opposed to what happened and craft a letter to the main media outlets and a formal complaint to RTE regarding the biased coverage of this story? We should also register the dissatisfaction of the silent majority with the government via our local TD's.


    I wonder how many boards users we could get to "sign" the letter? Could we start a movement here??

    Yes, yet another angry letter sent to RTE signed by anonymous is exactly what's needed.

    The homeless crisis doesn't exist.
    The rental crisis doesn't exist.
    The housing crisis doesn't exist.
    There are no waiting lists for hospitals.
    There are no people lying on trolleys in hospitals.
    There is no cover-up by the catholic church with regards to sexual abuse.

    There is however, Margaret Cash and taxing the poor.

    We're all waiting with bated breath to see where this "movement" goes.


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    #4837
    Dannyriver
    Registered Users Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Dannyriver


    Wheety wrote: »
    Your point does not stand.

    Not agreeing with someone claiming a lot of free money and demanding a free house is not the same as someone being on a different contract and earning more than someone else.

    Tell that to the person doing the same job for less money due to the eroding of workers rights since the 80's... I never said they were the same my point was around what s fair and unfair and how easily people turn a blind eye to what s unfair when the odds are stacked on their side.


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    #4838
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    dav3 wrote: »
    Yes, yet another angry letter sent to RTE signed by anonymous is exactly what's needed.

    The homeless crisis doesn't exist.
    The rental crisis doesn't exist.
    The housing crisis doesn't exist.
    There are no waiting lists for hospitals.
    There are no people lying on trolleys in hospitals.
    There is no cover-up by the catholic church with regards to sexual abuse.

    There is however, Margaret Cash and taxing the poor.

    We're all waiting with bated breath to see where this "movement" goes.

    as opposed to the lazy waster movement?


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    #4839
    maynooth_rules
    Registered Users Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭maynooth_rules


    Foggy Jew wrote: »
    Count me in. I am still incensed by this whole circus.

    Me too


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    #4840
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    naughtb4 wrote: »
    The lazy waster movement?

    Jesus wept, whoever at Boards came up with the ignore button deserves a medal.

    I'd say the lazy waster movement is well established - they at least have political support! From elected lazy wasters but still!!!


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    #4841
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Jesus wept, whoever at Boards came up with the ignore button deserves a medal.

    I'd say the lazy waster movement is well established - they at least have political support! From elected lazy wasters but still!!!

    That's exactly what I meant.......


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    #4842
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    Deleted User wrote: »

    That's not homeless... and frankly, we really should be objecting strongly to the notion that it is.

    I said this before: I am (as most people on this thread) also "homeless".
    I have only a "temporary shelter" from my bank - which is "reviewed on the monthly basis". And if I stop paying a monthly contributions to bank. My "shelter accomodation" will be taken away from me by the bank. And I have to sleep at local Garda station.
    so the only difference between me and Ms Cash that I have to pay a substantial amount each month.


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    #4843
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Well, to I'm sure the utter disgust of the Ms Cash Entitlement Posse, I am leaving early.

    Using my hard earned money to go football.

    It will be good to be in a crowd of good solid working class people - those who actually work that is!

    See you all on the other side, fight the good fight and workers of the world, you have nothing to lose but your chains! If we could afford chains!!!


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    #4844
    [Deleted User]
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    na1 wrote: »
    I said this before: I am (as most people on this thread) also "homeless".
    I have only a "temporary shelter" from my bank - which is "reviewed on the monthly basis". And if I stop paying a monthly contributions to bank. My "shelter accomodation" will be taken away from me by the bank. And I have to sleep at local Garda station.
    so the only difference between me and Ms Cash that I have to pay a substantial amount each month.

    I also have a mortgage, but the State isn't going to offer me loads of money to pay it, and frankly, won't give a damn if I can't pay, losing both the house, and the past 15 years of installments. But then, I'm male, and can't have 7 children 'easily'.

    The point remains though. The word homeless should be used solely to describe those traditionally considered homeless... not people who can afford to rent a place but don't.


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    #4845
    tom1ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    dav3 wrote: »
    Yes, yet another angry letter sent to RTE signed by anonymous is exactly what's needed.

    The homeless crisis doesn't exist.
    The rental crisis doesn't exist.
    The housing crisis doesn't exist.
    There are no waiting lists for hospitals.
    There are no people lying on trolleys in hospitals.
    There is no cover-up by the catholic church with regards to sexual abuse.

    There is however, Margaret Cash and taxing the poor.

    We're all waiting with bated breath to see where this "movement" goes.

    What is your problem?
    Because we are calling out ms cash for leading her life of entitlement at the taxpayers expense, that somehow means we are turning a blind eye to sexual abuse, people on trolleys and waiting lists?
    Are you serious?


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    #4846
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    Deleted User wrote: »
    not people who can afford to rent a place but don't.

    Can't afford to rent ANY place, or the place they want to live in?)


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    #4847
    tom1ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Prisoner 6753 wrote: »
    They can deduct it at source from welfare but that requires signed consent.

    Signed consent from who?


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    #4848
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Signed consent from who?

    The person in receipt of the welfare payment


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    #4849
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Prisoner 6753 wrote: »
    The person in receipt of the welfare payment


    LOL


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    #4850
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users Posts: 34,044 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    tom1ie wrote: »
    What is your problem?
    Because we are calling out ms cash for leading her life of entitlement at the taxpayers expense, that somehow means we are turning a blind eye to sexual abuse, people on trolleys and waiting lists?
    Are you serious?

    Sadly the irony is lost on some.

    If Ms Cash and her ilk was not getting thousands per year maybe some of these other crisis would not be great.


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    #4851
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,465 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Her "im entitled to a house" statement is infuriating. Fair enough, if someone tries really hard to get their shít together over a long period of time and it doesn't work out, the state should be able to provide means tested assistance.

    But this one signed up to the housing list at aged 17. She never bothered her hole and is now approaching the one million euro mark in terms of welfare received from the state in just over a decade.

    A million quid and shes still only 28.


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    #4852
    [Deleted User]
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    She got awarded a house? Anyone got a link to this?


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    #4853
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    LOL

    http://www.anpost.ie/AnPost/MainContent/Personal+Customers/Social+Welfare/household+budget.htm

    She can pay the following through the above


    Local Authority / Housing Body Payments
    Electric Ireland
    Bord Gáis Energy
    eircom
    Airtricity
    Irish Water


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    #4854
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Deleted User wrote: »
    She got awarded a house? Anyone got a link to this?

    https://extra.ie/2018/08/16/news/irish-news/homeless-mum-of-seven-offered-three-bedroom-house


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    #4855
    Faith+1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    So anyone with a valid point to make is deemed a 'prejudiced conservative'

    The fcuking cheek of the media

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/larissa-nolan-progressive-liberals-now-think-its-okay-to-sneer-at-single-mums-37226006.html


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    #4856
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Prisoner 6753 wrote: »
    http://www.anpost.ie/AnPost/MainContent/Personal+Customers/Social+Welfare/household+budget.htm

    She can pay the following through the above


    Local Authority / Housing Body Payments
    Electric Ireland
    Bord Gáis Energy
    eircom
    Airtricity
    Irish Water


    Oh i get what you're saying .

    She is hardly going to agree to it though. This will be her cycle

    Moved into place -> Dont pay rent -> after 18months rent free removed from premises -> go public that her 7 kids are now homeless -> public outcry -> moved into place

    And the cycle goes on and on

    Hilarious


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    #4857
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    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    LOL

    Same as tenants on rental assistance. They have to give permission for the rent allowance to go directly from the state dept to the landlord even though the payment is a contribution towards the rent. Go figure, eh?

    I think HAP is different though.


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    #4858
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users Posts: 34,044 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    If they're Thousand people like her then they cost the state 50 million a year. That's 1 Billion over 20 years for doing sweet FA.


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    #4859
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Oh i get what you're saying .

    She is hardly going to agree to it though. This will be her cycle

    Moved into place -> Dont pay rent -> after 18months rent free removed from thrashed premises -> go public that her multiples of kids are now homeless -> public outcry -> moved into place

    And the cycle goes on and on

    Hilarious

    Slightly edited but what you say is correct.


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    #4860
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
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    The_Kew_Tour wrote: »
    If they're Thousand people like her then they cost the state 50 million a year. That's 1 Billion over 20 years for doing sweet FA.

    When Joan Burton was in Social Welfare she estimated 80% of the OPFP claimants were living with the partners, predominantly mothers but also some fathers get the payment, if each of these are doing a Ms Cash I can only imagine the figure.

    I fully accept that a lot of the cases of OPFP are legitimate just to make it clear.


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    #4861
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users Posts: 34,044 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Prisoner 6753 wrote: »
    When Joan Burton was in Social Welfare she estimated 80% of the OPFP claimants were living with the partners, predominantly mothers but also some fathers get the payment, if each of these are doing a Ms Cash I can only imagine the figure.

    I fully accept that a lot of the cases of OPFP are legitimate just to make it clear.

    Oh ya I'm just giving a very small portion of people.

    I reckon it's well more then what I'm claiming but trying just give a sense of how bad things are and how much it costs.

    Are the left in country going fix that? Ya ****ing right they will.


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