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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,289 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    A view from Feminist Ire

    "Let me be perfectly clear; if you are one of those people who last week thought or said or posted or tweeted or commented that Margaret Cash had surely some part to play in sleeping in a garda station along with her children, you are one of those people who would have said the same about the mothers and the children in the Magdalen laundries and the Mother and Baby homes."

    Anger is an energy.

    I made the mistake of reading the full article.

    To even compare someone who decided to have 7 kids and is on over 50 k a year tax free with the women in the laundries is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,987 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Wheety wrote: »
    Why, what would happen if she was?


    Did you ever see a movie called "scanners"?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    SnazzyPig wrote: »
    What a ridiculous exaggeration.

    Japanese (I know, the husband works nearby, not just stereotypically assuming!) family on the LUAS most mornings - both going to work, kids to school and daycare etc.

    Like a well oiled machine and there's five of them. Bless them, they must work all the hours God sends.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Wheety wrote: »
    Why, what would happen if she was?

    Wheety - his point is anyone who disagrees with him on anything is racist.

    Race comes into everything. It's deeply worrying.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,289 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Torch and pitchfork sales through the rough, keyboards destroyed by sprayed froth and key thumping......we can only thank lord jesus himself she wasn't nigerian.

    Maybe you can put in a word with Mary Lou for her, sure she must have lots of space in her house to put her up.

    Maybe bring the husband in as well when he gets out.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    I made the mistake of reading the full article.

    To even compare someone who decided to have 7 kids and is on over 50 k a year tax free with the women in the laundries is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.

    As did I but I am glad I made it to the comments, alright own up - who did this:
    John | August 17, 2018 at 1:25 pm
    Another gob****e trying to spin the feminist angle to deflect criticism from this parasite. Here’s the fact and the only fact – Cash is a scumbag who has never, and will never contribute anything to this country, but feels “entitled” to earn more in benefits than most workers doing a 9-5 will ever see. That applies regardless of whether she is a female or a male – she is a welfare parasite and a drain on the state.

    And if you think for one second that anybody in their right mind (or employment because they are who pay for this leech) is going to rally to her cause?? You must be extremely naive, or extremely thick (maybe both). She is the “homeless crisis” personified – a disgusting sense of entitlement to something she does not and will never deserve. Real homeless are sleeping on the streets, not gaming their way to a “forever home”..

    Well said sir, well said!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,987 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Wheety - his point is anyone who disagrees with him on anything is racist.

    Race comes into everything. It's deeply worrying.




    Please don't claim to have any notion as regards my posts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Melendez


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    'Temporary flat is no solution - Politicians don't care about us'

    "Being homeless and being poor are two different things," she told the RTE show Today With Miriam. "There's no one saying there's anyone poor here. What I'm saying is, I'm homeless. I haven't enough to get a home but I've enough to get me through the week.

    "I saved hard to get my child that dress. And she was lovely. I think she was beautiful."

    She said she found the negative responses difficult to deal with.

    "It's hard when you know you haven't done anything wrong. I'm entitled to live my life, I'm entitled to buy my daughter a communion dress and to go for a few drinks with friends.

    "I've met hundreds of families in the same situation. There are lots of homeless mothers out there walking around Dublin trying to find some place to go."

    Inner City Helping Homeless has been working as an advocate for Ms Cash, and she thanked it for all the help it had provided.

    However she was critical of politicians for the lack of support they had shown her.

    "No one contacted me. They don't care about me. They're comfortable in their own homes. They're fair sorted.

    Reared

    "What gives them the right to think this is OK? I was born and reared here. Every Irish citizen is entitled to a home," she said.

    The young mum added that she wants to be housed in Tallaght ultimately.

    "That is where my family are from and that is where all my children's family and friends are," she said.

    "We will take it as it comes, but we would ultimately want a house in Tallaght."

    https://www.herald.ie/news/temporary-flat-is-no-solution-politicians-dont-care-about-us-37224513.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 540 ✭✭✭jjmcclure




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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    I made the mistake of reading the full article.

    To even compare someone who decided to have 7 kids and is on over 50 k a year tax free with the women in the laundries is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.

    Not the first one to do so

    Laundry apologists live among us

    https://deshocks.com/2018/08/13/laundry-apologists-live-among-us/


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Not the first one to do so

    Laundry apologists live among us

    https://deshocks.com/2018/08/13/laundry-apologists-live-among-us/

    Oh look what she links to:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/erica-fleming-home-3322687-Apr2017/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    jjmcclure wrote: »

    Sorry Ms. Larissa Nolan, you, like many second rate interns in the media especially the hysterical sensationalist organ your write for have been sicked in by this person.

    Ms Cash had no issue living off the benefits of her husbands crimes even when it was the crime of robbing and badly injuring an elderly lady.

    Mscash is NOT, i repeat NOT a single mother. She is married, her husband is in Cloverhill JAIL

    Maybe do a tiny little bit of research. Journalists used to do this,but these days are too lazy or too incompetent. She, her currently jailed husband and her j#kids caused a huge amount of stress to her former neighbours. They celebrated when she left. The council have numerous complaints about her.

    hence the one week trial period and the month by month follow on period.

    A proper journalist could find all this out easily.

    but sure that wouldn't suit the hysterical story - the truth rarely does!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    2 weeks in santa ponsa in September. Whats the betting.
    She is not poor she is just homeless, she said.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    DCC has rent arrears of 50 million so no.

    Can dcc ,or any council in the country, legally debit arrears from a persons benefit payment?
    If not why not?
    If they can, why aren’t they doing it?


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    Melendez wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    /Sigh. Nope.

    Don't get me wrong. You're entitled to your opinion, but the manner in which you have presented your opinion here hasn't impressed me in the slightest. And yes, I've read the thread from start to finish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,044 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Torch and pitchfork sales through the rough, keyboards destroyed by sprayed froth and key thumping......we can only thank lord jesus himself she wasn't nigerian.

    Yawn


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    Its not the last time some of those kids will sleep in a garda station I bet.

    Next time it wouldn't be a plastic chairs. It would be an appropriate wooden bed and a steel bars.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I made the mistake of reading the full article.

    To even compare someone who decided to have 7 kids and is on over 50 k a year tax free with the women in the laundries is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.

    Stay on this thread, and you'll read worse. :D

    I'm amazed that some people actually believe the crap they communicate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    na1 wrote: »
    She is not poor she is just homeless, she said.

    If she ain't poor she could have afforded her own accommodation then before going public with this well planned story that not only made national headlines but global headlines.

    I'm patiently awaiting to hear of other families pulling this stunt.

    Namely the 2 women in Co.Cork amongst others.

    Forget a mobile home and a caravan in a patch of grass in a housing estate, forget sleeping in tents on a beach, they should have camped in the garda station like Ms Cash the cute hoor.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Please don't claim to have any notion as regards my posts.

    Your posts generally seek to diminish any responsibility or wrongdoings for perceived minorities in most threads you wade into. They also seem to demonise anyone who has the cheek to call these people out on their bullsh*t, even when warranted.

    I'd say that's a fair assessment of your offerings most times I've seen you post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Can dcc ,or any council in the country, legally debit arrears from a persons benefit payment?
    If not why not?
    If they can, why aren’t they doing it?

    They can deduct it at source from welfare but that requires signed consent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Did you ever see a movie called "scanners"?

    No.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    na1 wrote: »
    She is not poor she is just homeless, she said.

    She wasn't "homeless", she was "houseless". The difference being that with the money she was receiving she could have rented somewhere outside of the immediate city area. She had the means to provide accommodation for herself and her children, and chose to seek extra support instead.

    That's not homeless... and frankly, we really should be objecting strongly to the notion that it is.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    /Sigh. Nope.

    Don't get me wrong. You're entitled to your opinion, but the manner in which you have presented your opinion here hasn't impressed me in the slightest. And yes, I've read the thread from start to finish.

    Even the threats that the Gardai are about to doorstep me after tracing my IP address ??!! :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    The only advantages are better tax structures for investments, and for pensions. So if you want to invest the money your company can do it after paying 12.5% instead of the usual ~50%. But the directors will pay the full whack of personal tax on whatever cash they withdraw as their salary.

    They normally pay themselves miserable wages to avoid high taxation.
    But they can close the company any time and get all the cash from the account paying something around 20% in Tax (without paying PAYE & PRSI)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,510 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Dannyriver wrote: »
    I agree they are not but my point still stands.

    Your point does not stand.

    Not agreeing with someone claiming a lot of free money and demanding a free house is not the same as someone being on a different contract and earning more than someone else.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,606 ✭✭✭Feisar


    A view from Feminist Ire

    "Let me be perfectly clear; if you are one of those people who last week thought or said or posted or tweeted or commented that Margaret Cash had surely some part to play in sleeping in a garda station along with her children, you are one of those people who would have said the same about the mothers and the children in the Magdalen laundries and the Mother and Baby homes."

    Anger is an energy.

    "To want a home in which to have and raise children, and to be supported by society in so doing, is a perfectly feminist ideal and to suggest otherwise is pure misogyny. The work of having and raising children is work of value on which society depends; indeed without the work of mothers in growing, birthing and raising our children society as we know it would end within a generation."

    Yea, it's more toerags we need LOL.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,606 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Feisar wrote: »
    "To want a home in which to have and raise children, and to be supported by society in so doing, is a perfectly feminist ideal and to suggest otherwise is pure misogyny. The work of having and raising children is work of value on which society depends; indeed without the work of mothers in growing, birthing and raising our children society as we know it would end within a generation."

    Yea, it's more toerags we need LOL.

    To be clear I hold no ire against the poor kids (not that my like or dislike matter a whit), however what hope do they have?

    First they came for the socialists...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 540 ✭✭✭jjmcclure


    Putting all the ranting and raving aside, the majority here are rightly upset by what has happened and how it has been portrayed by the media.


    Should we start another thread for those who are opposed to what happened and craft a letter to the main media outlets and a formal complaint to RTE regarding the biased coverage of this story? We should also register the dissatisfaction of the silent majority with the government via our local TD's.


    I wonder how many boards users we could get to "sign" the letter? Could we start a movement here??


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