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RTE World Cup Coverage
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Cork Boy 53 wrote: »What is there to comment on really? More of what they usually do in Apres Match.
Yes indeed - what is there to really comment on besides the fact that they're there.
I've largely excused myself from this thread for the last three weeks, as things had become a little too heated for my liking - but now that the tournament's nearly over and things seem to be calming down again, I may as well say the following two things:
(1) Adrian Eames isn't the greatest soccer commentator in the world, is he? Hams it up a bit, I think. Mind you, it's likely that he'll take over as RTE's main soccer commentator when George Hamilton retires.
(2) Will Hope be on the panel tomorrow? If not, then unless I'm mistaken that means she'll have been on it for just *one* day - and not alongside Eamo and Brady, either. Yes, Picard facepalm time again...
:rolleyes: 
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Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »Not a hope of Kerr being promoted after his dismal performance as commentator.
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You're making it sound like this was a huge deal for RTE getting her on, it wasn't. She was pretty much a curious look novelty.
Unless I was in another world, there was *some* hype when she was announced as a pundit.
Obviously, nowhere near as much hype as there would have been if someone like Paul Gascoigne had been announced - but there was some hype nonetheless.Again, unless you know she was pushing for more RTE airtime then your point is entirely hollow. This isn't her part of the world, and it's massively inconvenient for her and everyone to have her on more significantly than what she was on for.
I'm well aware this isn't her part of the world (mind you, this isn't necessarily Didi Hamann's part of the world either, although he doesn't have as far to travel as she did).
And why would I even think that she was pushing for more airtime? Although she is something of a loose cannon, and I feel that RTE should have made more use of her while she was there, I actually *don't* see why she would be unhappy with the amount of airtime she *did* get. And it's certainly true that she was never going to get as much airtime as Eamo, Brady and some of the other homegrown pundits, even if she had been on for the whole month.She was on a Brazil game? Correct me on this, but Brazil playing anyone in a world cup match is a big one! Hardly RTEs fault it didn't go to extra time.
In this part of the world, Brazil playing Mexico at the WC isn't *quite* as big as them playing England, France, Germany or even Argentina, is it? (Mexico did beat the Germans, of course, but disappointed after that.)
Obviously, no broadcaster in the world can be blamed for Brazil winning 2-0 inside 90 minutes. And no broadcaster in the world can be blamed for Neymar's theatrics during the match, either.We don't even know how much she was getting, RTE might have shelled out a whole load of cash on her.
I'd be very, very surprised if she came free.She didn't say anything particularly controversial either, plus its not like Eamo hasn't been on televised debates with women. He hasn't shared too many football panels with women, much like everybody else then!
She didn't say anything particularly controversial because the chance didn't come for her to do so.
Eamo has of course been on televised debates with women... but I honestly can't say I've seen him share a soccer panel with one (no sexism intended). And I definitely haven't seen him on a football panel - although the thought of him sharing one with Pat Spillane and Joe Brolly is quite appealing.
(Don't take that personally, BTW.
)She came over, did a couple of days, then went home. She's happy, RTE are happy. No problem.
No question that she and RTE are happy - but one or two viewers *do* feel a bit short-changed.
No question, either, that most people will have forgotten all about it by the time Qatar 2022 comes round. RTE will probably hire another American pundit for a day or two of that tournament, and that pundit will also go home happy - regardless how much hype there is.0 -
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Go Harvey Go wrote: »Unless I was in another world, there was *some* hype when she was announced as a pundit.
Obviously, nowhere near as much hype as there would have been if someone like Paul Gascoigne had been announced - but there was some hype nonetheless.
I'm well aware this isn't her part of the world (mind you, this isn't necessarily Didi Hamann's part of the world either, although he doesn't have as far to travel as she did).
And why would I even think that she was pushing for more airtime? Although she is something of a loose cannon, and I feel that RTE should have made more use of her while she was there, I actually *don't* see why she would be unhappy with the amount of airtime she *did* get. And it's certainly true that she was never going to get as much airtime as Eamo, Brady and some of the other homegrown pundits, even if she had been on for the whole month.
In this part of the world, Brazil playing Mexico at the WC isn't *quite* as big as them playing England, France, Germany or even Argentina, is it? (Mexico did beat the Germans, of course, but disappointed after that.)
Obviously, no broadcaster in the world can be blamed for Brazil winning 2-0 inside 90 minutes. And no broadcaster in the world can be blamed for Neymar's theatrics during the match, either.
I'd be very, very surprised if she came free.
She didn't say anything particularly controversial because the chance didn't come for her to do so.
Eamo has of course been on televised debates with women... but I honestly can't say I've seen him share a soccer panel with one (no sexism intended). And I definitely haven't seen him on a football panel - although the thought of him sharing one with Pat Spillane and Joe Brolly is quite appealing.
(Don't take that personally, BTW.)
No question that she and RTE are happy - but one or two viewers *do* feel a bit short-changed.
No question, either, that most people will have forgotten all about it by the time Qatar 2022 comes round. RTE will probably hire another American pundit for a day or two of that tournament, and that pundit will also go home happy - regardless how much hype there is.
Your use of asterixes (asterices?) hurts my head....*my head*.
There was indeed some fanfare, but on the basis of RTE's favourite pastime these days, promoting the hell out of the fact they they are promoting the sisterhood. RTE being essentially a feminist propaganda outlet these days.
We're not talking about a huge former star of the game in the mould of a Pele or Maradona, or even a Roy Keane. She was a photogenic (and very successful) player who had a high profile in the States, but that's about it. It's also not like she is a particularly engaging person, putting that real insight into the game (there aren't many of these around anyway). Her key selling points seem to be that she is 1. American, 2. Female and 3. Has a bit of an edgy past. She seems fond of the tactic of throwing out inflammatory accusations as excuses for failures of her and her team, sexism, racism etc. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt on number 3 there, but I don't particularly view any of those points as something which adds to the piece, it's pretty much an irrelevance. What does seem to be apparent is that she has very few supporters back home, and although high profile...ish, it's not like she has a wealth of experience in this area, or a whole host of others competing for her services.
What exactly were her pearls of wisdom that we all missed out on later in the tournament? She was absolutely certain that "Brazil France would be the game of the tournament". I forget how that one ended up.
Didi Hamann is not a similar comparison. He worked in England for many years, and indeed has worked for RTE for what, 8 years now? He has also been over here a lot with the ubiquitous Liverpool FC promotion that goes on in this country. He most likely has quite a few friends here, and probably some degree of a home in England, a 30 minute flight away. Solo is a completely different story. She has never worked over here, and probably doesn't know anybody here.
She worked on Brazil Mexico and Sweden Switzerland. In reality we'd have to have thought that would have ended up with Germany in one of those games, it could conceivably have been Brazil Germany. I'm sorry but Brazil are a huge deal in every part of the world when it comes to football. They were the tournament favourites and could conceivably have been knocked out by Mexico, themselves having defeated the hosts already in the tournament.
You say yourself that she probably cost a bit, maybe RTE felt that getting her over for a couple of days was good enough. Maybe she felt herself that she only wanted to do a couple of games. Punditry is the most overrated role in sport anyway, so we shouldn't feel shortchanged about anybody not being that prominent. I'd say those one or two people who feel that way are literally the one or two.
"She didn't say anything particularly controversial because the chance didn't come for her to do so." Absolutely not true.
I'll leave it at that on the matter.0 -
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