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Extreme cold weather from Feb 25th on, and now St. Patrick's Day on...

  • 19-02-2018 10:24pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭


    Looks like we could be getting another 2010. some places could be in for half a foot of snow and widespread tempretures of up to -15 at night. dont know why met eirreann are not sending out a warning in time for farmers and fodder stocks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭Mississippi.


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    Looks like we could be getting another 2010. some places could be in for half a foot of snow and widespread tempretures of up to -15 at night. dont know why met eirreann are not sending out a warning in time for farmers and fodder stocks

    Where was that forecast on?
    I was just expecting an " ordinary " frosty weekend . -2° or so ?

    I plink therefore I am



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


    Where was that forecast on?
    I was just expecting an " ordinary " frosty weekend . -2° or so ?

    Check out the weather forum on boards

    See this thread. I'm glued to it this past week.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057843266


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Where was that forecast on?
    I was just expecting an " ordinary " frosty weekend . -2° or so ?

    I think it will be similiar to that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    Looks like we could be getting another 2010. some places could be in for half a foot of snow and widespread tempretures of up to -15 at night. dont know why met eirreann are not sending out a warning in time for farmers and fodder stocks

    Up to -15°C doesnt mean much. Widespread temeratures would be a lot higher id imagine and under-10 would be in isolated areas of perfect conditions for low temps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    Lads if there was any danger of that in sight met Eir would be issuing status red warnings. If it -1 there issuing warnings.

    A lot of attention paid to air chair weathermen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    Looks like we could be getting another 2010. some places could be in for half a foot of snow and widespread tempretures of up to -15 at night. dont know why met eirreann are not sending out a warning in time for farmers and fodder stocks
    Its still a week away too. Forecasts have been known to change.
    They had a red warning for the majority of the country when the south coast was the only area that fully warranted a status red


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    ya they are mad for a repeat of 1947, the oul boys who farmed here before me said they never wanted to see it again.
    Snow is grand until you have to make your living in it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


    Lads if there was any danger of that in sight met Eir would be issuing status red warnings. If it -1 there issuing warnings.

    A lot of attention paid to air chair weathermen.

    Red / orange / yellow warnings only given out 24-36 hours before event.

    I hope they are wrong but by all accounts we are in for some seriously cold conditions from the weekend and into next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    jimmy G M wrote: »
    Red / orange / yellow warnings only given out 24-36 hours before event.

    I hope they are wrong but by all accounts we are in for some seriously cold conditions from the weekend and into next week.

    Yeah if the forecast is still the same tomorrow evening, lads would want to start thinking about lagging pipes, topping up antifreeze, getting salt and grit for yards, etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭George Sunsnow


    Lads if there was any danger of that in sight met Eir would be issuing status red warnings. If it -1 there issuing warnings.

    A lot of attention paid to air chair weathermen.
    As excited as I am about the science of next week,there is a lot of boards banter on that thread
    Met eireann do not issue warnings unless something is within 48 hours of happening
    They also do not go beyond 5 days usually but this is already creeping into their forecasts so it is worth keeping an eye on

    I mentioned it here at least a week ago
    I actually would be concerned enough to make some simple preparations
    Fill your oil tanks both for the house and tractors
    Have enough dairy nuts or meal delivered
    Think about what you’d need to do if water pipes freeze
    Think about where you can get a portable tank to draw milk to central collection points if milk lorries cannot come
    Drain all water from the milking machine if this weather happens
    Whether it happens or not prepare for it

    The UK met office think this could go on for about 2 weeks or more
    They do discuss potential future weather hazards
    Met eireann generally don’t
    So my best advice is prepare


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭George Sunsnow


    Met Éireann now have snow showers in their further outlook for the east and south


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Met Éireann now have snow showers in their further outlook for the east and south

    If the snow held off, the frost might help dry the ground


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    I only listrn to the weather around silage time only so haven't heard any of this.

    "2010"... The freezing temps started in early Dec and continued until nearly the end of Jan. The yards were deadly here. The diesel gummed up in the tractor diesel filters. Frozen drinkers.

    We are nearly into March now. So that is one big difference. I believe the severity will not be as bad because of where we are in the calendar. I could be way wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    While I try and keep a level head, the danger seems to be the possibility of a heavy snowfall at some stage before this predicted cold spell is over.
    Think what happened in March in Down and Antrim a few years ago when army helicopters had to be brought in for farmers.
    The Sun is stronger this time of year. It's just the possibility of these extreme cold air temperatures forecasted mixing with a warmer (than the air) sea temperature or a low pressure system coming up from the south and interacting with the cold air is causing concern.

    To the weather followers these charts are all their Christmases come at once. Never seen since sliced bread was invented.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,223 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Muckit wrote: »
    I only listrn to the weather around silage time only so haven't heard any of this.

    "2010"... The freezing temps started in early Dec and continued until nearly the end of Jan. The yards were deadly here. The diesel gummed up in the tractor diesel filters. Frozen drinkers.

    We are nearly into March now. So that is one big difference. I believe the severity will not be as bad because of where we are in the calendar. I could be way wrong.

    1947 was bad. My mother was born on the 10 of April that year and there were still snow drifts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    The weather forum is like a junior b team full of oldies that were good ballers once upon a time and are all living on past glories of the good old days. They prepare as best as possible but go out and inevitably get bet by 17 points. Come in sit in dressing room, look around at each other and wonder how and why things didnt go the way they predicted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    The weather forum is like a junior b team full of oldies that were good ballers once upon a time and are all living on past glories of the good old days. They prepare as best as possible but go out and inevitably get bet by 17 points. Come in sit in dressing room, look around at each other and wonder how and why things didnt go the way they predicted.

    You never know they might win the next match. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    whelan2 wrote: »
    1947 was bad. My mother was born on the 10 of April that year and there were still snow drifts

    But did they go on for 6-8weeks like 2010?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭George Sunsnow


    Muckit wrote: »
    But did they go on for 6-8weeks like 2010?!

    In 47 much of Leinster had snow on the ground for all of March yes

    Here is MT Cranium’s take this morning ,his daily forecast on the weather forum and it’s not to be sniffed at
    He is a qualified meteorologist ,who has worked in the Canadian met
    He only comments in the drama threads on the weather forum when somethings up
    He does not bring that into his forecast thread unless somethings up

    ADVANCE ALERT -- A spell of severe winter weather is now considered very likely starting around Sunday 25th and lasting perhaps a week or longer. Details are of course sketchy but the depth of cold air apparently heading west towards Ireland would suggest that temperatures could be well below freezing, and that snowfall is a strong possibility in the east, south and perhaps coastal areas of north and west as well, and we are seeing some charts on the most reliable models that are real jaw-droppers for snowfall potential, so be aware and check for updates, there is still a slight chance of a less intense outcome but with all global models marching in lock-step towards this scenario, confidence is growing.

    SUNDAY is more likely to be turning colder in stages with temperatures falling sharply by afternoon and evening as stronger east winds develop (40 to 60 km/hr) adding quite a chill to temperatures around 2 to 5 C.

    MONDAY to WEDNESDAY (26 to 28 Feb) are now looking very likely to be "Baltic" as the expression goes, in fact that's pretty much where the winds will originate, with some variations in direction between southeast and northeast as weak troughs develop in the arctic easterly flow. Temperatures will probably be well below normal with highs -2 to +2 C and lows -7 to -3 C, higher readings where these winds have just come in from the ocean or Irish Sea, lower readings well inland. Heavy snow showers are quite possible especially near east and south coasts, won't speculate on amounts yet but disruptive potential.

    FURTHER OUTLOOK calls for this wintry spell to continue with the European model showing potential for a heavy snowfall around 1-2 March, stay tuned as these details could change, but in any event, it appears likely that the cold spell will get one or two reinforcements from the east, with only limited amounts of warming between the coldest spells. If it does snow heavily in some areas and then clears, temperatures could drop well below -8 C over snow in clear skies. The overall effects of this spell could be quite disruptive to travel. (The chances appear to be at least 70 per cent that some form of wintry weather will occur, whether it lasts as long as some guidance suggests might be more like 40 per cent probable).


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    He only comments in the drama threads on the weather forum when somethings up
    He does not bring that into his forecast thread unless somethings up

    Agreed!

    Something is coming. Severity yet to be determined. Time to be sensible and make a few preparations while hoping for just mundanity.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,936 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Anyone looking for cheap trace heating cable kits, should go onto www.traceheatinguk.co.uk got 2x 37m pre-wired rolls for under 200 euro delivered, the only place in Ireland that quoted prices was over 700 euro for the equivelant kit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    Anyone looking for cheap trace heating cable kits, should go onto www.traceheatinguk.co.uk got 2x 37m pre-wired rolls for under 200 euro delivered, the only place in Ireland that quoted prices was over 700 euro for the equivelant kit

    Have you just bought these or how you them fitted and tested? Beat running with kettles!

    To put a positive slant on this weather thing, l reckon there will be great drying out which will be most welcomed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Id manage cold fine but by fcuk I hate snow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭I says


    Muckit wrote: »
    Have you just bought these or how you them fitted and tested? Beat running with kettles!

    To put a positive slant on this weather thing, l reckon there will be great drying out which will be most welcomed.

    Would ya spread urea just in case they’re wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    I says wrote: »
    Would ya spread urea just in case they’re wrong?

    I wouldn't personally due to my land. No fert ever goes out here before St. Patricks day... on a good year. Reckon will be well into April this year.

    Back to the weather.... as a man once said to me 'sure we don't get weather in this country!' So true. We have to have alerts on the radio from Teresa Mannion telling us to drive slower as there is limited braking on icy roads. Really. The latest is the glare from the winter sun. Ah come off it! If somebody crashes, blame the council or 'the saltman.' The drama of it all. Just everyone use that thing between their ears and leave the drama to EastEnders. Oh God l knew this would happen one day.... im turning into a grumpy old man!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Muckit wrote: »
    I wouldn't personally due to my land. No fert ever goes out here before St. Patricks day... on a good year. Reckon will be well into April this year.

    Back to the weather.... as a man once said to me 'sure we don't get weather in this country!' So true. We have to have alerts on the radio from Teresa Mannion telling us to drive slower as there is limited braking on icy roads. Really. The latest is the glare from the winter sun. Ah come off it! If somebody crashes, blame the council or 'the saltman.' The drama of it all. Just everyone use that thing between their ears and leave the drama to EastEnders. Oh God l knew this would happen one day.... im turning into a grumpy old man!!

    Yeah ya are :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Neighbours have the lawnmowers out in force.
    Daffodils are blooming. Cows are out.
    Sun is shining. Land is drying.

    It would be a shame to tell em about the weather forecasts. The cows and daffodils that is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    I cut the lawn on Saturday! Some growth!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Neighbours have the lawnmowers out in force.
    Daffodils are blooming. Cows are out.
    Sun is shining. Land is drying.

    It would be a shame to tell em about the weather forecasts. The cows and daffodils that is.

    I'll mow mine tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Reggie. wrote: »
    I'll mow mine tomorrow

    I'll keep a listen out for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Urea going out here now anyways.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Urea going out here now anyways.
    I'll probably wait till the fish migrate back to the rivers before I go out:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    Local town sold out of thermal underwear and tinned soup. It's going to be a sad day for this little village if the world ends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,723 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Muckit wrote: »
    But did they go on for 6-8weeks like 2010?!

    I think it did in places.
    There was snow still about during may, where heavier drifts and behind sheltered ditches, it had frozen through and lingered a long time.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,756 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Muckit wrote: »
    I cut the lawn on Saturday! Some growth!

    I'm leaving mine, might want to graze it in April.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    blue5000 wrote: »
    I'm leaving mine, might want to graze it in April.

    Not much growth here at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Dank Janniels


    Would the frost do any damage if I cut the lawn b4 this upcoming cold spell
    Sorry if thats a stupid question!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,723 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Would the frost do any damage if I cut the lawn b4 this upcoming cold spell
    Sorry if thats a stupid question!

    Minimal unless you cut it and it frosts heavy that night..

    The worst damage is from walking all over frozen grass..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Would the frost do any damage if I cut the lawn b4 this upcoming cold spell
    Sorry if thats a stupid question!

    It's not recommended to cut grass when there is a risk of frost or v. cold temperatures.

    Cutting opens the leaf structure to the elements and cold conditions will result in die back and poor growth afterwards.


    Leave mowing the lawn until the temperature rises to a decent day / night time average.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    gozunda wrote: »
    It's not recommended to cut grass when there is a risk of frost or v. cold temperatures.

    Cutting opens the leaf structure to the elements and cold conditions will result in die back and poor growth afterwards.


    Leave mowing the lawn until the temperature rises to a decent day / night time average.
    That's exactly what I need. Little regrowth on the lawn :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Who2


    Reggie. wrote: »
    That's exactly what I need. Little regrowth on the lawn :D

    You’d be the first lad looking for an excuse to buy a new mower.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Who2 wrote: »
    You’d be the first lad looking for an excuse to buy a new mower.

    I am buying a new one this year actually :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Who2


    Reggie. wrote: »
    I am buying a new one this year actually :o

    You’ll need to buy another one for a spare as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,046 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Who2 wrote: »
    You’ll need to buy another one for a spare as well.

    https://goo.gl/images/CXLwBG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Reggie. wrote: »
    That's exactly what I need. Little regrowth on the lawn :D


    Bare patches and weeds - you could be on to a new fad there alright ... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Who2



    He will need to change those yolks annually, he should have kept the Massey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.



    Ohhh never seen them before


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,194 ✭✭✭alps


    gozunda wrote: »
    .

    Cutting opens the leaf structure to the elements and cold conditions will result in die back and poor growth .

    And does grazing not have the same effect?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    alps wrote: »
    And does grazing not have the same effect?

    Is that a rhetorical question? Or do you graze you lawn rather than mowing :D

    See:

    https://www.lawn-tech.co.uk/lawn-care-guide/will-frost-damage-lawn/


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