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Cheltenham Preview Nights 2018
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RivetingRoger wrote: »Boyles just not bothering with NRNB this year??????????
They've been NRNB on all races for the last week0 -
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RivetingRoger wrote: »No.......they havent???
Ladbrokes have
Just came from Boyles
They havent
And their prices are pretty much the same as firms who ARE going nrnb. Pathetic bunch.0 -
William Hill are the same, only give money back if your horse is out of Cheltenham altogether. If it runs in another race you're screwed.0
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RivetingRoger wrote: »No.......they havent???
Ladbrokes have
Just came from Boyles
They havent
Either you're messing or a staff member informed you in the wrong.0 -
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Boyles have been nrnb online and in shops since March 10
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Fin40, my apols I see it on the website now
Thats crazy as I was in Boyles in "am i allowed mention branch here?" at lunch today and the lass behind the counter said they had'nt and they didnt know when they would. She also told me they could give me NRNB prices on the championship races "on request" at the counter.....
How very focking odd..........
No posters no advertising nothing to say they were NRNB either.........................0 -
Bookmakers staff are becoming increasingly lazy and ill-informed.0
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RivetingRoger wrote: »No.......they havent???
Ladbrokes have
Just came from Boyles
They havent
Yes they have.0 -
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Haydock Preview Evening – 5th March
Panel
Gareth Leonard (MC for the Night)
Warren Greateaux
Andy Gibson
Mark Chapman
Brian Hughes Did not turn up.
Day 1
Supreme Novices
MC: Getabird 11/8, probably bigger on day. Kalashnikov has form in the book but horses that win Betfair Hurdle generally done nothing here.
WG: Has Western Ryder but main intention but at moment is Ballymore bound but will switch here if it comes up soft. Bit disappointed with him this year but does have some form at Cheltenham. Richard Johnson seems him as a Stayer and worthy EW if he does go here at 33/1. Fan of Kalashnikov.
AG: Getabird, has taken same route as previous Mullins hot pots in this but not in same league as Douvan, Vautour etc. and too short. Possibly ground dependant and should be 5/2 so would oppose at 11/8. Likes Kalashnikov on better ground. Back Claimantakinforgan ante post. Lost in Translation may go better and Scarlet Dragon was an eye-catcher in 2nd part of his last race but both could go Ballymore. Kalashnikov Rock solid for placepot.
MC: Scarlet Dragon has been nibbled at. Also Slate House EW could go well.
Arkle
AG: Footpad well supported early doors like an Altior or Douvan in previous years for this but probably too short now as they were good things at the time. Petit Mouchoir wasn’t as fluent LTO as Footpad.
St Calvados, not sure on whether he will go on the course or like the ground. There has been a difference of option between the trainer, jockey and work rider.
North Hill Harvey has EW chance without favourites market. Will pick up the pieces.
WG: Footpad been impressive. PM had interrupted preparation LTO and may improve.
Fan of St Calvados, jumps well. NHH could run into a place and Nicholls says he is 10lb better for Cheltenham. Would probably play PM
MC: would be with PM. Brain Power better right handed
Champion Hurdle.
MC: BD looks a banker but last back to back winner in this was 2005. Melon not good Enough. Yorkhill jumping an issue. Wicklow Brave for EW money.
WG: can’t see BD being beat. MTOY will be second.
Chat about what ground will be. WG thinks soft, AG thinks G/S.
AG: doesn’t like short priced favourites and wound rather Faugheen at 7/4 WO BD. MTOY EW chance and has backed Chitbello WO BD
GL: likes Wicklow Brave EW
GL mentioned that WG had Keeper Hill in the 4 miler and is available at around 14/1 although he did fall LTO. WH said he jumped well until the fall.
Mares Hurdle
WG: Has not decided if La Bague Au Roi goes here and is currently in favour 60/40 that she will go here. More to come from her and has run well on heavy and soft ground.
AG: La Bague Au Roi was 6/1 without Apple’s Jade for this and sees that as a great EW bet.
Other races on Day 1.
Ultima
AG: Has backed Singlefarmpayment weeks ago and fancies his chances although will need luck in running with his hold up style. Coo Star Sivola is very well handicapped but always seems to run far too wide.
National Hunt Chase (4 Miler)
AG: No Comment has had a very interesting campaign.
MC: Money has come for No Comment and also Elegant Escape but unsure if he goes here.
Close Brothers
De Plotting Shed well fancied and backed heavily but the panel seemed to know that Any Second Now has been laid out for this.
MC: Money definitely has come for De Plotting Shed. MC also says that no favourite has won a handicap at the Festival for 4 years.
Day 2
Ballymore
AG: Will oppose Samcro. Willie Mullins likes Next Destination but unsure if he goes here.
MC: Feels Samcro must be taken on.
WG: Felt On the Blind Side has been overlooked in this.
GL: Heard OTBS has had sore shins but WG thought he banged a joint.
RSA
MC: Feels Monalee should go here but probably will go JLT.
WG: This is gruelling race and unsure which horses will run here.
AG: Thinks Presenting Percy should go to the 4 miler but probably will run here and have a good chance. Likes Black Corton.
QMCC
WG: Thinks Altior too good and will win impressively. Says he is probably the most talented horse in training. GL agrees.
GL: Actually likes Min.
MC: Altior will win.
AG: Politilogue is now too long in the W/O Altior market and probably should be backed.
Other races on Day 2.
Cross Country
MC: Not sure why The Last Samurai is going here and likes Tiger Roll.
Fred Winter
MC: Act of Valour well backed. Some money taken for Nicholl’s Oistrakh Le Noir.
WG: Likes Espirit de Samoza here.
Champion Bumper
WG: Knows Mullins likes Hollowgraphic and Acey Milan has probably the best for of the British horses.
Brian Hughes has text AG to say he likes Cloudy Dream in the Ryanair, Look my Way in the Fred Winter, Barney Dwan in the Close Bros and his old favourite Mount Mews EW in the JLT.
Day 3
JLT
AG: Again difficult to see who runs here. If Monalee ran here he would have a great chance. Invitation Only seems to be favourite by default. Very open race with no superstar. Feels Tizzard’s will improve at the festival. Also says Bigmatre is a big prize. Terrefort confirmed here and soft ground would be a plus.
WG: Benetar beat his horse Keeper Hill on bad ground, wasn’t that impressive though but maybe a solid EW. Big fan of Terrefort and has a good chance in an open race. Finian’s Oscar would be a no no. Modus is timid horse (a soft f*cker as Nicholls says)
MC: Terrefort is unexposed and would be his choice.
Ryanair
AG: Waiting Patiently won’t run and BH has confirmed this. Really strong on Top Notch EW and is one of his biggest bets so far. Will also cover by backing Balko Des Flos and Cue Card as win only bets. Probably would back and trade Cloudy Dream in running. Frodon could spoil the party.
MC: UDS is a bit more restrained now than the tear-*rse he used to be. This race is as far as he wants tho,
AG: Expects Cue Card to be ridden aggressively.
WG: Very open race and if you can get 12s on Cue Card he is a good EW bet.
Stayers
WG: 6 or 7 could win this and very open. La Bague Au Roi would get the Mares allowance and would have a good chance if he sends her here. Says she is stronger this year and won 3m on heavy so distance not an issue. Wishes Mares was on the new course on the Thursday then his decision would be made. Also thinks Yanworth could be a big player.
AG: Agrees with WG that 6 or 7 could win it and La Bague Au Roi is of interest. Sam Spinner has the best form and if Mullins trained would be 7/4 so he is overpriced. Interesting market move on Supasundae after this last win beating Faugheen over a different trip, will he stay?
Yanworth will trade bigger in running. Penhill isn’t without a chance if fit.
L’Ami Serge will be favourite heading down the hill but doesn’t find off the bridle.
MC: Agrees that Sam Spinner should be shorter. Penhill is of interest but hasn’t been backed by the owner yet which is normally a sign. Would back L’Ami Serge EW.
Other races on Day 3
Pertemps
WG: Runs Boite but took a heavy fall LTO.
MC: Took money on Thomas Campbell & Who Dares Wins.
AG: Likes Who Dares Wins.
A man from the northern Racing Club says that Matt Woolston, head man at the jockey club, informed him that Glenloe only ran at Market Rasen last time to get a handicap mark for this race. Is this a sign?
Kim Muir
WG: Says Missed Approach will be saddled by Noel McPartland (but I cant find an entry for him).
MC: Mall Dini well backed for this but he always seems well backed at the festival.
Day 4
Triumph Hurdle
GL: Likes Redicean
MC: Thought Apple’s Shakira would be short priced favourite but now Redicean has entered the fray and now thinks Redicean will go off jolly on the day.
WG: Likes Redicean, very impressive so far and Alan King is good with juvenile hurdlers. Also likes We Have A Dream and won LTO even though wasn’t at this sharpest.
AG: Redicean impressive and likes the fact he is good from 2 out until the line although LTO he was impressive throughout the whole race. Stormy Ireland is also of interest and maybe a back to lay in running.
Albert Bartlett
MC: Popular betting race and there could be a turn up. Santini backed well by connections.
WG: Runs Mulcahys Hill who has graded form and has a squeak. Thinks Next Destination would win this if he runs.
AG: Likes Warren’s horse EW.
Gold Cup
AG: 7 or 8 have a chance here. Our Duke or Killultagh Vic EW chances. Sizing John, Might Bite and Native River all have obvious chances and rightly first 3 in the market. SJ is the one who has more to prove. Native River has had the perfect prep though. Potential to lay Might Bite in running.
MC: Fan of Native River. Road to Respect has similar to profile as SJ last year. Would just pick Road to Respect over Native River though.
WG: Might Bite will run his race and looks more straightforward this year. Was good in the King George. Also likes Native River, worried about the bounce factor though but if he runs to his form last year will be right up there. Edwulf will run conservatively and staying on for a place.
AG: Thinks Definitely Red is a good solid chaser but runs to about 150 bar one time. Total Recall probably out for a spin before an Irish Grand National effort. Minella Rocco and Djakadam massive prices.
GL: Might Bite.
Other Races on Day 4.
County Hurdle
AG: Old favourite A Hare Breath EW. Wants Charli Parcs to go here as would back him but looking like he will go Champion Hurdle which is a shame.
Foxhunters
WG: Says Paul Nicholls likes Wonderful Charm.
Grand Annual
MC: Money for Vaniteaux,
AG: Likes Vaniteaux but only negative he’s not the bravest in a finish.
WG: Also likes Vaniteaux.
NAPS
MC: Tiger Roll (X Country)
WG: Any Second Now (Close Brothers)
AG: A Hare Breath (County)
GL: Ordinary World (Grand Annual) – Ran well behind Min.
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Mentioned tonight at the Boyles preview that the owner of Monalee has a big bet for RSA so most likely to run in that.0
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Racing Post Preview
PK - Paul Kealy
GL - Gavin Lynch
PM - Patrick Mullins
RF - Richard Forristal
TM - Thom Malone
NM - Nicola McGeady
Supreme
PM - Very excited about Getabird. Was very impressive lto, jumped brilliant, and professionally.
PK - Not sure what is wrong with Kalashnikov. Found loads, and can't see him out of the frame.
RF - Taking Getabird on. Question about going l/h. Last 6 winners run at least 4 times. Thinks ND should be in this. Huge engine.
GL - On Getabird, and will be on again on the day if he goes 9/4 5/2. People presume he's slow, has gears. Summerville Boy best e/w.
Arkle
PM - Footpad our nap of the festival. Just under top class as a hurdler, and not sure PM jumps well enough. SC a worry, but Footpad has form in the book.
PK - Can't knock Footpad on anything done over fences, but thinks PM will be a better horse than he was LTO. Thinks SC wants soft ground, even though trainer says not a worry.
NM - Footpad started to drift in the week, evens to 15/8, and others started to shorten, but then everyone said nothign wrong, nothing changed. People looking at ground she thinks. Likes SC.
GL - Against BP, jumps to right, poor at chelts x2. Can't have SC unless soft. Thinks FP held up, behind. Worried about PM jumping. With Footpad, always an advantage to have Ruby.
RF - With Footpad, and thinks PM's run was outstanding last time. Not sure he'll turn it around. Hard to oppose Footpad. Can't remember seeing a hurdler improve to much for going over a fence. If it wasn't for the drift wouldn't even think about getting it beat.
PM - Wasn't quick enough for CH over 2, but the way he jumps fences makes up ground, and makes him quick enough for 2m chase.
Champion Hurdle
PM - Faugheen been fine all year, which is why we are scratching our heads. We know he still has ability, after Morgiana. Changed a few things at home, and hoping that will spark him up a bit, as well as Cheltenham. Yorkhill schooled very well over hurdles at Curragh, so have option of here, or Ryanair.
RF - Where would you run him?
GL - CH
RF - Ryanair
NM - Ryanair
PK - On his runs this year doesn't matter
We know ability is there, but thinks that Yorkhill is in better form than all year. Wicklow Brave, better ground, better he'll run. Melon never went a yard with the hood, thinks he is great value at 10/1, and taking hood off at Cheltenham.
PK - I always want to oppose short prices, even if only small bets. Only chink for BD is that he might have forgotten how to race. Shaken up to beat JC, because almost looked like forgotten what to do. Won a good CH, but has backed Wicklow Brave, in normal and w/o markets. Thinks he is very talented, and asks PM if he's riding. PM laughs and says he would love to ride WB.
RF - Thinks 3m was a test first time out for Yorkhill, thinks he'll pick up pieces in whatever race he runs in. BD beat a proper yardstick in MTOY, and wouldn't worry about last day. Can't see Faugheen winning now.
GL - Yorkhill, Faugheen,, and BD only horses who have ability to win race, and two of them you can't have. BD may have forgotten how to race, but can't look past BD.
All say how good a horse MTOY is, and PM says doesn't get credit he's deserves.
Mares Hurdle
Can AJ be beaten?
PK - Backed La Bague for this and Stayers. Thinks she'll prob end up here because Stayers looking tough, and one to beat here.
PM - BDD prob go here, very exciting over fences, but schooled well over hurdles. LTO ran very keen, and did well to win. AJ fantastic. VVM in great form, but going without a prep. Won't give her as much rope this time, and hope that helps.
NM - Anything but Apples Jade please
RF - Non event AJ wins. Beat Supasundae, and SS fave for Stayers. 4/6 is almost value. Verdana Blue value at 20/1 a place if she runs.
GL - AJ great, but thinks BDD might chase her home, if you can get 5/2 3/1 w/o value.
PK - Ultima - Coo Star Sivola, Close Bros - Barney Dwan, NH Chase - No Comment
PM - Might ride Rathvinden in the NH Chase
RF - NH Chase - Jury Duty, Ultima - American & Le Rocher
GL - NH Chase - Rathvinden, Close Bros - Any Second Now
Neptune
PK - Samcro prob is good thing, but I don't back short priced faves. Take him on with Black Op. Thinks he ran a nice race against Santini.
PM - Next Destination most likely to go here, but entered everywhere. ND form not as good as Samcro, but know he handles Cheltenham, and jumps very well.
NM - This is the one we'd probably want to lay, of the hype horses.
RF - Fantastic horse, but I'm a ND fan, and hope he doesn't run in the AB. Look at what he beat the last day, beat CS, Jetz, BBB, DDG. Thinks ND take some stopping here or Supreme.
PK - 4 of last 7 faves been beaten in this race.
GL - Hard to see Samcro beaten. Against OTBS, hill is a worry, NH even said. ND and Samcro 1-2. Would like Samcro in Supreme.
TM - Anything at a big price?
PK - Black Op thinks happier on better ground. NH talks about Santini as a GC horse.
PM - Not sure where DDG goes, but thinks 14/1 good price and entitled to improve.
RSA
NM - PP my bet of the week
RF - Take on PP not ideal prep, beaten at top level. For a horse to win a G1 after fall Monalee had was some going. Bad fall, and a kicking, won well last day, one for him.
GL - Thinks Davy is a better judge than he is.
PK - Likes PP, didn't like the prep. 1/2 thinks Monalee is ending up in the JLT, race falling apart. Not sure what's wrong with Black Corton, won Reynoldstown easily, and if he started his career in November, would be shorter. Could be a fluke, but jumps well, and always finds.
PM - Al Boum Photo & IO, will be split. One going JLT. Gave Monalee an easy lead, and that's why race finished like it did. Thinks set up for Monalee, and thinks he's more of a JLT horse. Over 3m, thinks it might be like AB last year. Not sure PP race was hard, hacked around, and PP could have won. DR gave him sympathetic ride. Al Boum Photo more room for improvement, than IO.
QMCC
TM - Altior?
PK - Yeah, most likely. Got to prove it, after first run out from break. Should be good enough, and wouldn't surprise him if Min got closer. Way they talk about Altior, he could be another Sprinter.
PM - Min better chaser, but not sure he'd turn it around with Altior, as he doesn't look any worse over fences. Min had better prep, but Altior looked good. Douvan is the one. Stepping him up day by day, and if he pleases them in a couple important bits of work this week will go. Thinks he's better than Altior. Holly is delighted with him, going without a run. Unenviable task, but if any horse can, Douvan could.
NM - Not much support for Douvan, and Altior return was a dream. Competitive race. Politologue solid e/w. If Min or Douvan show up, it's a race.
RF - Can't see Douvan coming back FTO. Quevega did it in the mares, but this isn't the mares.
PM - We managed it with Arctic Fire
RF - That's' not Altior, if you do this, greatest training performance ever. Altior impossible to oppose, not concerned about bounce. Min improving horse, but it's Altior.
GL - Altior should be 180 after Cheltenham, thinks he's underrated. Interesting to see who Ruby rides. Ricci said if Ruby doesn't ride Douvan, why we running him? Shocked if Altior beat.
Bumper
PM - I usually listen to Willie for my ride in the bumper, but I have more of a say than other races.
Blackbow best performance so far. Hollowgraphic he loves. .Ran great race last year as a 4yo, and won well lto. Tornado Flyer will improve for the run. Carefully Selected surprise package, and will be a strong stayer who will settle. No problem with atmosphere, in his opinion.
GL - Blackbow, thinks Rhinestone the danger. Last day was shortly after Irish CH, and quicker than Supasundae with same weight.
RF - Blackbow, form great, and sire is good. Hollowgraphic not for him as a bumper, but long term prospect. Know your score as an outsider at big price. Bought for 400k for pipe, and 33/1 overpriced.
NM - Nick Gifford's horse positive, but can't separate Hollow & Blackbow
PK - Doesn't have a big bet in this. Blackbow great rating, but sneaky feeling Rhinestone might turn it around.
PM - Giggs horse entered, not sure if it runs.
Weds Handicaps
GL - Can't wait to see DR on Mitchouka in FW and watching him ride it. Tiger Roll & Cause of Causes in Cross Country.
RF - Malaya in Fred Winter & Jers Girl in Coral Cup if she runs.
PM - Deal D'estruval surprised how well he ran over 2, appreciate step up.
NM - Act of Valour maybe in FW seen some bets for
PK - Le Breuil & Springtown Lake Coral Cup & Act of Valour in Fred Winter off 136 - PN won it 3/7
JLT
TM - What's going to run biggest problem
PM - IO or ABP - Possibly IO as ABP looked like staying on better last day.
RF - Looks like a consolation race, and Modus appeals. 2nd in Champ Bumper, and 2nd in CC behind Supasundae. 7/1 a fair price.
PK - FO horse with most talent, but not prep you want. No mean feat to give Benatar 7lbs, and if he can return to that, should go close. Backed Benatar, too. If Monalee turns up, wins.
GL - Finians most talent, but jumping. Modus run 4x and won 3/4 in small fields at odds on. IO right favourite, and would fancy Monalee if it showed up. Poorest of the 3 chases. Maybe IO.
Ryanair
TM - Un De Sceaux great.
PM - Loves the game. 2x Sprinter beat him he got back up for 2nd. Iron Horse. Ran away with Ruby in middle of race, and some of those leaps. Was extraordinary last year. Not a big horse, but attacks fences. More cut the better. Never been forgiven for being beaten by Sprinter, but won an Arkle & Ryanair.
PK - Loves Cue Card, wil have to back him, but can't see him winning. Sometimes you get on the wrong side of a horse, and stay there. That's me with UDS. Only thing is, the horses in behind last year are 1/22 since. Will take him on with BDF, with hope, more than anything. Top Notch could come back, but not sure if he's 'Top Notch'
GL - Agrees with PM that UDS doesn't get the respect he deserves. Fantastic horse. Pity we won't see Waiting Patiently, and thinks BDF be better with good ground.
RF - UDS underappreciated. Great battle to get back for 2nd against Sprinter. Can't see him beaten, and thinks price is value. Would love to see WP here, for the spectacle.
PM - 8/1 NRNB big price for Yorkhill, and the rail on his inside helps like Ruby says. Easier to ride at Cheltenham.
Mares Novice Hurdle
TM - Laurina
PM - She's like Let's Dance, but taller. In fantastic form, we think the world of her. If ground a little softer it will suit. Maria's Benefit has experience. What Laurina did at Fairyhouse looked exceptional.
PK - Handicapper rated Maria's Benefit 152, not sure the prices should be so wide apart. Prices are wrong with that big a diff. But MB had a setback.
GL - MB only missed a weeks work, should be ok.
RF - Laurina's form strong. If she's as good as they saying, she won't be beaten.
Stayers Hurdle
TM - Supasundae favourite here, are you with him?
PK - Didn't finish strongest lto, so you wonder. Backed La Bague a few weeks ago, but don't think running here now. Rumours about Bloom trying to get a box for the Thursday. If Penhill returns to that form.
PM - Penhill back in full training, and as fit as they can have him. Holly said he is her nap of the festival. Won so well last year, and Monalee 2nd. Know he handles track/trip, lots experience. Schooled well the other day. Not ideal, but have to play the cards how they're dealt. Wide open race. Bacardys overpriced, schooled him and he's slick over hurdles, even after going chasing. Race he won in Punchestown very good.
RF - Supasundae worthy favourite, and thinks Yanworth prob be favourite if he hadn't gone chasing. Thinks Supasundae is lairy, and running in ICH was right. Sam Spinner is vulnerable. Robbie can ride a race on SS, but needs to stay, thinks he will.
Talking about Apples beating SS, and PM thinks that AJ beat SS easier than it looked.
GL - Laying Sam Spinner, Supa Sundae 0/2 at the trip. Yanworth or Penhill for him. Penhill pushed wide in AB and still won.
PK - Coming round to Penhill. Thinks UKWIMH could be a silly price, but he's another 10 year old, and hasn't been as good this year.
Thursday Handicaps
GL - Mall Dini - KM Sqouateur doesn't jump well enough. Brown Advisory - Kings Socks 2nd to Footpad in a G1
RF - Mall Dini - KM & Sort It Out - Pertemps
PK - Who Dares Wins - Pertemps. Brown Advisory - Mister Whittaker better on good ground
PM - Nothing in KM or Pertemps. Pleasant Company in Brown Adv, might go to National. Patricks Park up 10lbs, and will run where he can get in.
Triumph Hurdle
PM - This race has changed, French breds have changed it. Lots of proper NH bred horses. Mr Adjudicator has best form. Good race, and told time was good, w/e that means. Farclas was 2nd to Espoir when he was on form. Jumped a bit sticky early, but better with hood off. Stormy Ireland is pandoras box, hopes timeform right. Very small, and doesn't do as much at home. Fabulous jumper, and the plan wasn't that in Fairyhouse, but let her roll on. Wasn't 100% for Leopardstown, train her better at home. Great form now. Saldier is a chasing horse for future, and very good flat form. Can't wait to see him over a fence.
NM - Apples Shakira unbeaten in 4, and NH singing her praises. Impressed with Redicean.
PK - AS been favourite, but not sure it will like it if ground turns up fast. Worried about Redicean, after first 2. Laid him everything last time, and watched him run like that. Farclas getting buried will help him, he thinks. Battled when they went last few furlongs. Both good, but fancies Farclas on better ground.
RF - Take on AS, looks like wants soft, but agrees with PK. Won't know which is best form. Redicean looked most impressive, and last time at Kempton looked vg. No bet, but Redicean the one.
GL - Very hard race, lots unbeaten. Redicean looked like diff horse lto. AS, on ground doesn't want better, NH thinks she does. Stormy prob make running, very fast race. AS if she's close enough will def finish up hill.
Talk about Stormy winning time being so good. RF says take it with pinch of salt, and GL agrees, but says it was very good.
Albert Bartlett
PM - Fabulous Saga obvious one, and race has strong profile for horses with experience, which he has. Forgive last run, too bad to be true. DDG fascinating horse, but same owner as FS. Next Destination was quite keen the last day, and you need to settle. Ballyward is there, would race behind the bridle, not enough experience maybe. Real Steel another one, who thinks better going over a trip. PT said same thing after he won over 2m.
PK - Santini only 3 runs, need exp. Doesn't ruin horses, but inexp get found out. 62 non finishers. For that reason Calett Mad, who he can't believe is 25/1 still. Going well in NH Chase before his 5th birthday. Bolted up in Pertemps trial. Nick Luck said NTD told him Calett Mad one horse that is thriving.
RF - Chef Des Obeaux he likes, and the last time a winner of this hadn't run over 3m was Bobs Worth. CDO ticks box, out and out stayer.
GL - CDO interesting if it comes up soft. Another Haydock merchant. If ground is good fancy Santini. DDG can't see him staying if you watch end of race with ND. Soft ground CDO or Chriss Dream.
Gold Cup
RF - In Might Bite camp, and Sizing John. Thinks it's between those 2. Great run destroying Djakadam, and out too quick lto. Might Bite is the up and coming horse. To do what he did in RSA, and still get up the hill after what he did. NDB knows what's coming, and if it wasn't for that quirk he'd be shorter. NR shouldn't be good enough. Our Duke improving but still a way. KV fallen or nearly fallen twice.
PM - SJ overpriced. KV had the injury, but has an engine, and it's an ask with his jumping. Inexperienced, and a race like this. Total Recall, thinks his form with Whisper puts him a way behind, but he's improving. Djakadam is overpriced, he thinks. Race always throws up horses that place year after year. Disappointed in Leopardstown, maybe ride him diff.
PK - Wide open. MB might be most talented, but wandered around 3/4 times at Cheltenham. SJ prob the best if he comes back. Likes young improving profile, and Road To Respect has that. Bachasson at a massive price, could be very talented. Skipped round AB, but didn't get home as a 5yo. Big ask, but big price.
PM - Bachasson improved a lot, but has heart and scope to jump. He's a young protential improver.
GL - Small e/w on Bachasson @ 50/1. Might Bite is actually 9, and should be 7/7 without Kempton. New Course is 50yards further in, so won't know about gate. NDB went too soon in KG, kicking before the bend. Idles a lot. Sizing John massive chance. Can't believe Native River is 5/1, will place lay him. Needs soft ground.
PK - Road to Respect
PM - Might Bite
NM - Our Duke
RF - Might Bite
GL - Sizing John
Friday Handicaps
GL - Hunters Call in the County Hurdle. Burning Ambition for Foxhunters 5/7 and young improver. Jamie Codd riding.
RF - Burning Ambition agreed. County Hurdle - Burbank & Patricks Park in Grand Annual.
PM - Carter McKay & Sandsend in M.Pipe.
PK - Ivanovich Gorbatov in County and thinks Hunters Call form looks fantastic. Deal D'Estruval & Des Bieffes with James Bowen in M. Pipe. Diego Du Charmil in the Grand Annual
PM - Whiskey Sour is in Supreme/County couldn't enter him in eurovision. Wants good ground.
'Very Willie Answer' from panel.
Charity Bets
PK - Coo Star Sivola in Ultima
PM - Footpad in Arkle
GL - Blackbow in Bumper
RF - Know The Score in Bumper
NM - Saint Calvados in Arkle0 -
Gordon Elliott stable tour:
Apples Jade-
She goes for the Mares’ Hurdle and I couldn’t be happier with her. She’ll do one more bit of work tomorrow morning and that’ll be her pretty much ready to go. She’s been easier to train this season. She just seems more mature and strong and her form on the track seems better than ever. I don’t think going there fresh will be a problem for her.
Bless the wings:
Trainer Says:
He will run in the cross-country chase and Davy Russell will ride him.
Blow by blow:
He’ll go for the Martin Pipe. He won well last time in first-time blinkers and that was probably the first time he’s shown his true form since he won the Grade 1 bumper at Punchestown. I’d say a combination of the less testing ground and blinkers were a help to him.
Cause of causes;
Trainer Says:
He goes to the cross-country race. It looks a good opportunity for him. He’s in very good form at home and we couldn’t be happier with him. He doesn’t do anything fancy at home, but he always seems to come alive at Cheltenham. Jamie Codd will ride him.
De plotting shed:
He goes for the novices’ handicap chase and probably looks like he’s well enough handicapped. I’d like to think the longer trip and better ground will help him. With a bit of luck, he won’t be far away.
Dounikos:
He goes for the RSA Chase. It’s looks a competitive renewal, but he jumps, stays and gallops and that’s what you need to win an RSA. I think stepping up to the RSA trip will be the making of him.
Fagan:
He’ll run in the National Hunt Chase. He hasn’t been an easy horse to train, but if you go back to his Albert Bartlett form he’d have a fair chance in this and he has a good record when fresh. He’ll be ridden by Barry O’Neill.
Farclas:
He’s in good form and will run in the Triumph Hurdle. We’re going to put a tongue tie on him for the first time there. He doesn’t have a breathing problem, but I think it might help him a bit. I think he’s improving with every run and while he’ll need to improve again, I don’t think there’s any more than a good jump between the best of the Irish juvenile hurdlers. Jack Kennedy will ride him.
Felix Desjy:
He runs in the Champion Bumper. I think he’s a good horse and Davy Russell will ride him. I didn’t think I needed to do too much more with him and wasn’t sure whether to send him here, but the lads gave me the nod to send one over for it and I thought he was the best candidate.
Flawless escape:
He’ll run in the Martin Pipe. I thought he ran very well in his first handicap at Leopardstown and he ticks a lot of the boxes for this race. We have a few riders booked already and we’re likely to have four runners in the race, but the specifics of who rides what won’t be sorted out until closer to the time.
Glenloe:
He goes for the Pertemps Final. It’s a competitive race, but he’s in very good form. The one worry would be if it came up a bit quick, but it looks like there’s no real chance of that happening.
Jury Duty:
He goes for the National Hunt Chase and Jamie Codd will ride. He stays three miles, but four miles will be a question he has to answer on the day. He has a good bit of class, so if he gets home he must have a fair chance.
Mengli Khan:
He goes for the Supreme Novices’ Hurdle and the drier the ground, the better his chance. It’s probably hard to see him reversing form with Getabird, but he’s in very good form. I’m just not sure he gave his running at Punchestown last time, as the third and fourth horses were a bit closer to him than I expected.
Mitchouka:
He goes for the Fred Winter and is really well. I can see him travelling very well, but whether he gets up the hill is the question I have. I hope I’m wrong, but that’s my gut feeling.
Monbeg notorious:
He won’t travel and will wait for the Irish Grand National.
Mossback:
He’ll run in the National Hunt Chase and Lisa O’Neill will ride him.
Outlander:
He’ll take his chance in the Gold Cup and it looks an open race. He had surgery for a kissing spine before he started back this season and I’ve been very happy with his performances this season. He ran bad in the race last season, but his jumping was terrible on the day and that was the case again at Punchestown after that, so maybe the issue with his back was to blame.
Samcro:
He goes for the Ballymore. If it came up really heavy, you never know, but the Ballymore is very much the plan as of now. I’d imagine we’ll give him a straightforward, jump him off in fourth or fifth and ride him like the best horse in the race.
Shattered love:
She goes for the JLT. She jumps and gallops and I thought this might be a weaker option than the RSA for her. She’s nice and straightforward, so we can jump her off good and handy there and make use of her jumping and stamina. She’d had a few runs leading up to Christmas, so we decided to train her for here after that rather than give her a run in between. Another part of that is that I want to have some of these horses still in top form for the spring festivals in Ireland too. The last couple of seasons we’ve found ourselves running a bit low on ammunition for those meetings, so we think giving some of them an easier time in the middle part of the season might pay off later.
Sire du berlais:
He’ll go for the Martin Pipe and is on good form. He’ll galloped through the line very well last time and I really liked his run.
Squouateur:
He’ll run in the Kim Muir and Jamie Codd will ride him. Based on his run in the Paddy Power he has a good chance and even looking at his run at Cheltenham last year up until he fell would give you in encouragement.
Tiger roll:
He goes for the cross country and Keith Donoghue will ride him. He had a kissing spine surgery before he came back this season and he’s another that seems to come alive at Cheltenham. We brought him over to school over these obstacles since his last run and I was delighted with him over there. We don’t like to leave any stone unturned if we can at all and that is why we do things like that. He’s absolutely flying at home and I think he’ll run very well.0 -
Preview Night 2
Paul Nicholls, Davy Russell and Bryony Frost
DAY 1
Supreme Novices Chase
Obviously my selection was CLAIMANTAKINFORGAN... Paul Nicholls didn't have many opinions on the race but we were both of the thought that KLASHNIKOV didn't have much of a chance on livelier ground and after such a hard race at Newbury. We also both thought that GETABIRD was too short for a horse that until last month wasn't even considered a Supreme runner..
Arkle
PETIT MOUCHOIR was the most popular horse. Paul Nicholls didn't particularly agree that Footpad would go to the JLT but at the same time thought that PETIT MOUCHOIR had the better chance to win on all known form. He felt the ground would be too fast for SAINT CALVADOS and that SCEAU ROYAL didn't have much of a chance on what he's achieved to date.
Ultima Handicap Chase
This race wasn't covered but the Owner of SINGLEFARMPAYMENT was in the audience. I spoke to him after and he confirmed that the horse was once again being sent for a crack at the race having been beaten on a photo last time out. He's had a stop start campaign and had a few issue's but is in cracking form right now.
Champion Chase
BUVEUR D'AIR was considered by all three of us to be the banker of the meeting. As long as he jumps he'll be all but impossible to beat.
Mares Hurdle
Again all three consider APPLES JADE to be incredibly hard to beat.
4m Chase
Race wasn't discussed but I put forward a case to why DOUNIKOS should run a good race if he can get home.
Close Brothers Novice Chase
Paul has MOVEWITHTHETIMES entered in this and one other race. He feels whichever one he runs in, this the more likely, he would have a cracking each way chance.
DAY 2
Ballymore Novices Chase
The race wasn't really discussed but SAMCRO is without a doubt the horse to beat.
RSA
I thought PRESENTING PERCY would be hard to beat and is the pick of Davy Russell who has the choice of the two market leaders. Paul and Bryony are expecting BLACK CORTON to be bang in contention too and a good each way bet.
Coral Cup
Paul feels that if TOPOFTHEGAME can stay sound and take his place he'd have a great chance. He's a horse that Nicholls thinks has a big future over fences next year
Champion Chase
ALTIOR was considered to be tough to beat, Paul conceded that he had hoped Politolgue would have given him a real race last time out, admitting that the only light was that Altior was poor in last years Arkle, for all he won. He expects POLITOLOGUE to be 2nd, isn't worried about MIN who we all felt is massively underpriced considering his form and runs this year have been poor.
Cross Country Chase
Wasn't discussed
Fred Winter
Of Pauls entries he's expecting ACT OF VALOUR to come out best of his and feels he's been nicely handicapped. He had run SAO last week to get him handicapped for the race but was disappointed that the handicapper refused to give him a mark. SAO remains a horse to track. I also spoke to him in private about a horse I've been following for some time called BIRDS OF PREY, he gave me a wry smile and said yeah he's decent, but he's taken his time to mature. He did however school well on Tuesday and may be out soon.
Champion Bumper
Again this race wasn't discussed but again I had a word with the owner of THE BIG BITE. He's a horse that has won both his bumper starts to date and after Noel Fehily rode him on debut he stated that the horse was "the best bumper horse he's ever ridden".. He won his next start with ease too. Now a decision hasn't been made as to whether he takes his chance in the race but he's 25/1 and with NRNB markets widely available he could prove a spot of value.
DAY 3
JLT Novices Chase
Obviously I was firmly in the Footpad camp NRNB.. Paul Nicholls was strongly of the opinion that MODUS was far too big of a price at 25/1, and expected him to run a big race.. We all felt that WILLOUGHBY COURT doesn't jump well enough.
Pertemps Final
Paul stated he needed CONNETABLE to win on the weekend to get a run in the race, clearly that didn't happen. For me, as long as the yard are in better form, LOUIS' VAC POUCH would be very hard to beat given his form, he seemed sold on my case for his chances.
Ryanair
Was a hard race to decipher because so many weren't running.. I felt if DOUVAN ran he'd win, Paul was of the opinion he wouldn't run. He thought WAITING PATIENTLY looks a fantastic horse but we were both of the opinion he may not run. UN DE SCEAUX was the only horse most definatly running and would have another brilliant chance should his rivals not show. Paul and Bryony were both expecting a better run this time round from FRODON, they thought depending on runners he'd have a good chance of a place but conceded it would be hard to win.
Stayers
It was of my opinion that if PENHILL ran he would have a great chance, if not my money would be on THE NEW ONE each way. Being out of Milan he's bred to improve for the step up in trip, Paul agreed. Paul Nicholls felt SAM SPINNER hadn't done a thing wrong this year and was the most likely winner.
Brown & Merribel Chase
One of two entries for MOVEWITHTHETIMES, they'll go to what they feel is the most winnable. BOUVEREUL is also coming back to himself and went close at the festival a year ago. He has a place squeak if he takes his place.
Mares Novice
Wasn't discussed
Kim Muir
One of two entries for BRAQUER D'OR, despite many jokes about the horse (the evenings host is the co owner) it is yet to be decided whether he will be running or not.
DAY 4
Triumph Hurdle
Not many opinions from Paul or Bryony on the race. I felt Apples Shakira would be very hard to beat, he wasn't as sold on her as I was and was concerned about her on faster ground. Since the evening Redicean has firmly put himself into the mix, for me its Apples race to lose.
County Hurdle
Wasn't Discussed
Albert Bartlett
Wasn't Discussed
Gold Cup
We were all of the opinion that MIGHT BITE is the most likely winner with nothing else coming into the race in form. The points were made that all of his rivals have too many question marks... Sizing John flopped last time, Our Duke cant jump well enough, Native River won a 3 runner race against a non stayer and a horse of Nicholls that wasn't fit, Coney Island flopped, Djakadam isn't good enough, Killughtagh Vic fell again, Definitely Red will find it all too quick and Minella Rocco isn't good enough also falling last time out. MIGHT BITE hasn't put a foot wrong and clearly has stamina in abundance.
Foxhunters Chase
WONDERFUL CHARM was Pauls NAP of the meeting. Himself and Bryony both felt that the horse had the most class in the race and with a clear round was the one they all had to beat. I wasn't going to disagree...
The Johnny Henderson and Martin Pipe weren't Discussed...
I was also passed on a horse for your trackers to follow for the future and one that may be a shade under the radar right now. The horse is INTERCONNECTED, he won a point to point at Larkhill last Sunday with total ease and looks like a good horse for the future when he takes to rules racing...0 -
Preview Night 2
Paul Nicholls, Davy Russell and Bryony Frost
DAY 1
Supreme Novices Chase
Obviously my selection was CLAIMANTAKINFORGAN... Paul Nicholls didn't have many opinions on the race but we were both of the thought that KLASHNIKOV didn't have much of a chance on livelier ground and after such a hard race at Newbury. We also both thought that GETABIRD was too short for a horse that until last month wasn't even considered a Supreme runner..
Arkle
PETIT MOUCHOIR was the most popular horse. Paul Nicholls didn't particularly agree that Footpad would go to the JLT but at the same time thought that PETIT MOUCHOIR had the better chance to win on all known form. He felt the ground would be too fast for SAINT CALVADOS and that SCEAU ROYAL didn't have much of a chance on what he's achieved to date.
Ultima Handicap Chase
This race wasn't covered but the Owner of SINGLEFARMPAYMENT was in the audience. I spoke to him after and he confirmed that the horse was once again being sent for a crack at the race having been beaten on a photo last time out. He's had a stop start campaign and had a few issue's but is in cracking form right now.
Champion Chase
BUVEUR D'AIR was considered by all three of us to be the banker of the meeting. As long as he jumps he'll be all but impossible to beat.
Mares Hurdle
Again all three consider APPLES JADE to be incredibly hard to beat.
4m Chase
Race wasn't discussed but I put forward a case to why DOUNIKOS should run a good race if he can get home.
Close Brothers Novice Chase
Paul has MOVEWITHTHETIMES entered in this and one other race. He feels whichever one he runs in, this the more likely, he would have a cracking each way chance.
DAY 2
Ballymore Novices Chase
The race wasn't really discussed but SAMCRO is without a doubt the horse to beat.
RSA
I thought PRESENTING PERCY would be hard to beat and is the pick of Davy Russell who has the choice of the two market leaders. Paul and Bryony are expecting BLACK CORTON to be bang in contention too and a good each way bet.
Coral Cup
Paul feels that if TOPOFTHEGAME can stay sound and take his place he'd have a great chance. He's a horse that Nicholls thinks has a big future over fences next year
Champion Chase
ALTIOR was considered to be tough to beat, Paul conceded that he had hoped Politolgue would have given him a real race last time out, admitting that the only light was that Altior was poor in last years Arkle, for all he won. He expects POLITOLOGUE to be 2nd, isn't worried about MIN who we all felt is massively underpriced considering his form and runs this year have been poor.
Cross Country Chase
Wasn't discussed
Fred Winter
Of Pauls entries he's expecting ACT OF VALOUR to come out best of his and feels he's been nicely handicapped. He had run SAO last week to get him handicapped for the race but was disappointed that the handicapper refused to give him a mark. SAO remains a horse to track. I also spoke to him in private about a horse I've been following for some time called BIRDS OF PREY, he gave me a wry smile and said yeah he's decent, but he's taken his time to mature. He did however school well on Tuesday and may be out soon.
Champion Bumper
Again this race wasn't discussed but again I had a word with the owner of THE BIG BITE. He's a horse that has won both his bumper starts to date and after Noel Fehily rode him on debut he stated that the horse was "the best bumper horse he's ever ridden".. He won his next start with ease too. Now a decision hasn't been made as to whether he takes his chance in the race but he's 25/1 and with NRNB markets widely available he could prove a spot of value.
DAY 3
JLT Novices Chase
Obviously I was firmly in the Footpad camp NRNB.. Paul Nicholls was strongly of the opinion that MODUS was far too big of a price at 25/1, and expected him to run a big race.. We all felt that WILLOUGHBY COURT doesn't jump well enough.
Pertemps Final
Paul stated he needed CONNETABLE to win on the weekend to get a run in the race, clearly that didn't happen. For me, as long as the yard are in better form, LOUIS' VAC POUCH would be very hard to beat given his form, he seemed sold on my case for his chances.
Ryanair
Was a hard race to decipher because so many weren't running.. I felt if DOUVAN ran he'd win, Paul was of the opinion he wouldn't run. He thought WAITING PATIENTLY looks a fantastic horse but we were both of the opinion he may not run. UN DE SCEAUX was the only horse most definatly running and would have another brilliant chance should his rivals not show. Paul and Bryony were both expecting a better run this time round from FRODON, they thought depending on runners he'd have a good chance of a place but conceded it would be hard to win.
Stayers
It was of my opinion that if PENHILL ran he would have a great chance, if not my money would be on THE NEW ONE each way. Being out of Milan he's bred to improve for the step up in trip, Paul agreed. Paul Nicholls felt SAM SPINNER hadn't done a thing wrong this year and was the most likely winner.
Brown & Merribel Chase
One of two entries for MOVEWITHTHETIMES, they'll go to what they feel is the most winnable. BOUVEREUL is also coming back to himself and went close at the festival a year ago. He has a place squeak if he takes his place.
Mares Novice
Wasn't discussed
Kim Muir
One of two entries for BRAQUER D'OR, despite many jokes about the horse (the evenings host is the co owner) it is yet to be decided whether he will be running or not.
DAY 4
Triumph Hurdle
Not many opinions from Paul or Bryony on the race. I felt Apples Shakira would be very hard to beat, he wasn't as sold on her as I was and was concerned about her on faster ground. Since the evening Redicean has firmly put himself into the mix, for me its Apples race to lose.
County Hurdle
Wasn't Discussed
Albert Bartlett
Wasn't Discussed
Gold Cup
We were all of the opinion that MIGHT BITE is the most likely winner with nothing else coming into the race in form. The points were made that all of his rivals have too many question marks... Sizing John flopped last time, Our Duke cant jump well enough, Native River won a 3 runner race against a non stayer and a horse of Nicholls that wasn't fit, Coney Island flopped, Djakadam isn't good enough, Killughtagh Vic fell again, Definitely Red will find it all too quick and Minella Rocco isn't good enough also falling last time out. MIGHT BITE hasn't put a foot wrong and clearly has stamina in abundance.
Foxhunters Chase
WONDERFUL CHARM was Pauls NAP of the meeting. Himself and Bryony both felt that the horse had the most class in the race and with a clear round was the one they all had to beat. I wasn't going to disagree...
The Johnny Henderson and Martin Pipe weren't Discussed...
I was also passed on a horse for your trackers to follow for the future and one that may be a shade under the radar right now. The horse is INTERCONNECTED, he won a point to point at Larkhill last Sunday with total ease and looks like a good horse for the future when he takes to rules racing...
Willoughby Court and Sceau Royale?
Is this one a week or so old?0 -
show me the money.1 wrote: »Lapoftheodds.com is his website keep an eye out there.
David Watkins preview now available.0 -
Anyone last any longer than 20 mins on Final Furlong preview? That Emmet Kennedy would do your nut in0
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They'll put that final furlong preview on YouTube when its over and I'll just flick through to the Tony Keenan bits. He called a few good ones last year. No heed in the other lot of them.0
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Paddy Power preview being tweeted for anyone interested
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Jesus this Kennedy lad is cat
Thinks he is some comedian , keeps on inturrupting people with his ‘jokes ‘ to camera and ‘hilarious ‘ fr ted quotes0 -
Had to turn off, you could see Geraghty didn't want to be there because of that clown.0
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Kennedy is close to unbearable. How the fcuk he hasnt been asked to tone it down by his colleagues is beyond me. Shouldn't be allowed mention his bets, I'd worry impressionable young fellas might listen.
Blake, as someone mentioned, is a poor writer but knows **** and is a good judge imo.0 -
NaiveMelodies wrote: »Kennedy is close to unbearable. How the fcuk he hasnt been asked to tone it down by his colleagues is beyond me. Shouldn't be allowed mention his bets, I'd worry impressionable young fellas might listen.
Blake, as someone mentioned, is a poor writer but knows **** and is a good judge imo.
Tripe talk. Blake's an incredible writer and journalist, one of the best in the business.0 -
STADEdeLUC wrote: »Tripe talk. Blake's an incredible writer and journalist, one of the best in the business.
Incredible writer? You jokin? He's not even a journalist at the end of the day.
He goes after some interesting topics but 17 paragraphs of stats doesn't do it for me.
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The Final Furling hasn't been good for at least 3 years.
As someone said the in jokes and incessant ranting are unbearable. I tune in every now and again but Jesus from the few I have caught this year they've been cat. Kennedy never misses the opportunity to tell everyone about other podcasts or radio that he's on. Non stop name drops. It's ridiculous. I try to catch it whenever Keenan and Delargy are on. Delargy is an excellent judge!
Bring back Noel Hayes I say.0 -
Jaysus I must be the only one who enjoyed it
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Geraghty looked as if he would rather be anywhere else than sitting there
Blake and Kennedy have too much of a bro-mance going on0
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