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Cheltenham Preview Nights 2018

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    #62
    handsfree2
    Registered Users Posts: 298 ✭✭handsfree2


    WickIow Brave wrote: »
    Yeah I just find it difficult to see Footpad being beat. 4th in a Champion Hurdle is a very decent level as a hurdler and he's on a another level as a chaser. Whereas, Petit Mouchoir is probably of a similar level hurdling or chasing. Saint Calvados is an unknown but I'd want 8/1 or bigger to be backing an unknown tbh and he's 5s and could well go off second fav.

    People touting St Calvados is a gift to the Footpad/PM backers


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    #63
    handsfree2
    Registered Users Posts: 298 ✭✭handsfree2


    WickIow Brave wrote: »
    Getabird is another everyone seems to be against. I can see him being a much bigger price on the day while something like Mengli Khan, Paloma Blue, Claimantakinforgan - one of those will go off single figures. I'm against Getabird myself but if he went out to a decent price I'd have to reconsider. I'd be against Kalashnikov and Summerville Boy, so if say Getabird drifts and Mengli Khan shortens a lot, I'd have to back Getabird whereas at the current prices I'd be on Mengli Khan. Almost certain Paloma Blue is going to be my main Supreme bet though and I'll probably back one more.

    From my point of view, I think Mengli Khan is the underrated horse here. For the Moscow flyer, they turned him around in 17 days after the leopardstown run, and he was giving weight to getabird. If he was below par that day then that second isn't too bad.

    As for the leopardstown run, he was fav that day and could have easily gone on to win well that day but for going through the wing of a hurdle. Had he then his form would be comparable to Samcro. If fact I would rate it as better because it was a strongly run race.

    Lots of ifs and buts here, I know.


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    #64
    WickIow Brave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭WickIow Brave


    handsfree2 wrote: »
    From my point of view, I think Mengli Khan is the underrated horse here. For the Moscow flyer, they turned him around in 17 days after the leopardstown run, and he was giving weight to getabird. If he was below par that day then that second isn't too bad.

    As for the leopardstown run, he was fav that day and could have easily gone on to win well that day but for going through the wing of a hurdle. Had he then his form would be comparable to Samcro. If fact I would rate it as better because it was a strongly run race.

    Lots of ifs and buts here, I know.

    That definitely wasn't Mengli Khan's true running behind Getabird. I could see MK going off around 8/1 or shorter for the Supreme.


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    #65
    HarshOstrich
    Registered Users Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭HarshOstrich


    Mengli khan won’t place at Cheltenham and would more likely run out again than win.
    He was a funny horse on the flat, looked quite classy at times but disappointed on the big days.
    It’s a similar story over jumps, I just don’t think he’s a hardy enough horse for a top quality race and would sooner weaken out of it.


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    #66
    Gringo180
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    Mengli Khan is a monkey, albeit it a talented one. I just Couldnt bring myself to back him


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    #67
    danganabu
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Mengli Khan is a monkey, albeit it a talented one. I just Couldnt bring myself to back him

    Sounds like something someone would have said about last years winner!!


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    #68
    RivetingRoger
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    Always amuses me how people go doolally in the weeks coming upto the festival ☺ After leopardstown Getabird was a lump horse ! Go back and look at comments on this site even! Now the closer we get to the day without any contrary evidence since all of a sudden he is a lay horse ☺ Based on nothing.
    Similarly footpad, the first name on all AP accas up to 2 weeks ago all of a sudden is vulnerable to a horse half of us hadn't heard of pre Christmas, and Sceau feckin Royal !!!

    Relax! Getabird will win. Footpad WILL win. Apples will win and we can all go into Wednesday with a bucket of cash.

    yyyeeoooww!


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    #69
    dk6dk6
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    RivetingRoger wrote: »
    Always amuses me how people go doolally in the weeks coming upto the festival ☺ After leopardstown Getabird was a lump horse ! Go back and look at comments on this site even! Now the closer we get to the day without any contrary evidence since all of a sudden he is a lay horse ☺ Based on nothing.
    Similarly footpad, the first name on all AP accas up to 2 weeks ago all of a sudden is vulnerable to a horse half of us hadn't heard of pre Christmas, and Sceau feckin Royal !!!

    Relax! Getabird will win. Footpad WILL win. Apples will win and we can all go into Wednesday with a bucket of cash.

    yyyeeoooww!

    I think horses like Footpad and Getabird where always going to drift as we got closer and we all knew they'd start bigger prices unless there was defections.

    There might actually be a bit of value about them come next Tuesday.


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    #70
    HandsomeBob
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    danganabu wrote: »
    Sounds like something someone would have said about last years winner!!

    I have Mengli covered in a couple of bets already and am happy enough to let it run. I'll back Getabird on the day but probably just in a treble or trixie with Footpad and AJ.


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    #71
    posturingpat
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    RivetingRoger wrote: »
    Always amuses me how people go doolally in the weeks coming upto the festival ☺ After leopardstown Getabird was a lump horse ! Go back and look at comments on this site even! Now the closer we get to the day without any contrary evidence since all of a sudden he is a lay horse ☺ Based on nothing.
    Similarly footpad, the first name on all AP accas up to 2 weeks ago all of a sudden is vulnerable to a horse half of us hadn't heard of pre Christmas, and Sceau feckin Royal !!!

    Relax! Getabird will win. Footpad WILL win. Apples will win and we can all go into Wednesday with a bucket of cash.

    yyyeeoooww!

    Paddy Power get you any free tickets for Cheltenham?


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    #72
    Slattsy
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    posturingpat wrote: »
    Paddy Power get you any free tickets for Cheltenham?

    I lol'd :D


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    #73
    DuffleBag
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    Any sign of the Daniel Watkins guide for 2018? Always a decent read


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    #74
    danganabu
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    DuffleBag wrote: »
    Any sign of the Daniel Watkins guide for 2018? Always a decent read

    It's generally the Monday the week before, as in today, so should be released today.


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    #75
    DuffleBag
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    danganabu wrote: »
    It's generally the Monday the week before, as in today, so should be released today.

    You’re right. He’s at that preview night in Dublin as well tonight so might release it after that.


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    #76
    danganabu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭danganabu


    DuffleBag wrote: »
    You’re right. He’s at that preview night in Dublin as well tonight so might release it after that.

    PM Sting he will pick up a copy for you tonight, loves a good preview that lad :D


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    #77
    elderberry
    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭elderberry


    Apparently Derek O'Connor rides No Comment in the NH Chase hence the price contraction in recent days


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    #78
    show me the money.1
    Registered Users Posts: 261 ✭✭show me the money.1


    DuffleBag wrote: »
    Any sign of the Daniel Watkins guide for 2018? Always a decent read

    Lapoftheodds.com is his website keep an eye out there.


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    #79
    madmoose
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    elderberry wrote: »
    Apparently Derek O'Connor rides No Comment in the NH Chase hence the price contraction in recent days

    Was obvious being the only JP entry. It surely will not win after one chase run? He shaped ok over a short trip though it must be said.


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    #80
    krustydoyle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭krustydoyle


    Watching the BetBright Preview night on youtube here..

    If the crowd would shut up for 30 seconds it might of went better


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    #81
    Justin10
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    The setup of that preview night has always been horrendous, more so then other nights.


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    #82
    dk6dk6
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    krustydoyle wrote: »
    Watching the BetBright Preview night on youtube here..

    If the crowd would shut up for 30 seconds it might of went better

    Think unibet have a live one on YouTube this evening.


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    #83
    WickIow Brave
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    There's one on the Racing Post YouTube and Facebook at 7:30 with Patrick Mullins and Gavin something (second name escapes me but he's worth listening to) and a few more.


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    #84
    WickIow Brave
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    WickIow Brave wrote: »
    There's one on the Racing Post YouTube and Facebook at 7:30 with Patrick Mullins and Gavin something (second name escapes me but he's worth listening to) and a few more.

    Gavin Lynch.


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    #85
    [Deleted User]
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    dk6dk6 wrote: »
    Think unibet have a live one on YouTube this evening.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqSuTf46rnU


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    #86
    elderberry
    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭elderberry


    madmoose wrote: »
    Was obvious being the only JP entry. It surely will not win after one chase run? He shaped ok over a short trip though it must be said.

    No that would put me off too. Best hurdles form was over 3m and it's the horse's only entry so they must think he'll stay the 4m


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    #87
    dk6dk6
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    TheTorment wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqSuTf46rnU

    That was a terrible watch.


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    #88
    culline
    Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭culline


    DuffleBag wrote: »
    You’re right. He’s at that preview night in Dublin as well tonight so might release it after that.

    At his preview night now, he’s very good, a lot of sense...and stats. His preview is out Wednesday


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    #89
    RivetingRoger
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    WickIow Brave wrote: »
    Gavin Lynch.
    Just watched it. Patrick napped Footpad. Delighted with that !!


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    #90
    [Deleted User]
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    dk6dk6 wrote: »
    That was a terrible watch.

    Dreadful


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    #91
    abarkie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭abarkie


    Henderson looked like he had a good night


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