IreExit

pitifulgod

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Wow a poll...

Red C polling are generally pretty accurate and have predicted recent Irish referendums pretty accurately. Do you really believe Irexit is a substantial number? I've not seen big protests or demands made of politicians to have a referendum. Repeal the 8th has all of that and reflects in polling, no swell in public opinion on Irexit though.

BuboBubo

bear1 wrote: »

Do you really think a debate being held which includes Nigel Farage who told a few lies to get what he wants would be considered appropriate?
Do you think freedom of speech should work both ways? They specifically state that the debate is only for like minded people so that shows that they only want to hear people agree with them.
Why don't they open the meeting up to both sides so both can say theirs opinions?
Cause they know exactly how it would go and that **** wit Farage has already once or twice mentioned Ireland should leave so that clown should truly go back to his own country and see the mess he has caused unfold instead of spreading his bull**** around.

It's probably being billed as a discussion on Ireland possibly leaving the EU rather than a heated debate. If there's protests outside the venue, or people looking for an argument inside it'll descend into a farce.

Let them have their meeting. Don't book tickets unless you want to go, it's unfair to those who have an interest in attending.

ArchXStanton

pitifulgod wrote: »

Red C polling are generally pretty accurate and have predicted recent Irish referendums pretty accurately. Do you really believe Irexit is a substantial number? I've not seen big protests or demands made of politicians to have a referendum. Repeal the 8th has all of that and reflects in polling, no swell in public opinion on Irexit though.

Did they not get it fairly inaccurate the last time? Tell me do you think if they polled with the question: do you want Ireland to be part of an superstate with no control over it's economic policy they would get the same result? The EU for the last while have been pumping out the oul polls in a propaganda effort that everything is Rosey in the garden and to try appeal to people's sheep mentality..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA

Kidchameleon

bear1 wrote: »

Why don't they open the meeting up to both sides so both can say theirs opinions?

The tickets were free for anyone who wanted to go

The Backwards Man

BuboBubo wrote: »

It's probably being billed as a discussion on Ireland possibly leaving the EU rather than a heated debate. If there's protests outside the venue, or people looking for an argument inside it'll descend into a farce.

Let them have their meeting. Don't book tickets unless you want to go, it's unfair on those who have an interest in attending.

Unfair?
Keeping impressionable people away from those individuals is the most charitable thing anyone will ever do for them.

ohnonotgmail

Kidchameleon wrote: »

The tickets were free for anyone who wanted to go

except if you turn up and have a dissenting opinion you would be thrown out.

bear1

Kidchameleon wrote: »

The tickets were free for anyone who wanted to go

Have you read the terms and conditions?

easygoing39

I cant find them on the ticketsoucre website now.Maybe its sold out???

BuboBubo

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Unfair?
Keeping impressionable people away from those individuals is the most charitable thing anyone will ever do for them.

"Down with that sort of thing.
Careful now"



I'm all for freedom of choice.

pitifulgod

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Did they not get it fairly inaccurate the last time? Tell me do you think if they polled with the question: do you want Ireland to be part of an superstate with no control over it's economic policy they would get the same result? The EU for the last while have been pumping out the oul polls in a propaganda effort that everything is Rosey in the garden and to try appeal to people's sheep mentality..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA

Red C didn't do a Brexit poll but were pretty open to possibility of a leave vote. Can you point me to the swell of public for Irexit? So far it seems to be a minute few.
http://www.redcresearch.ie/brexit-polls-lessons-ireland/

Doltanian

Irexit/IreExit is such a terrible name. If we're going to commit economic suicide then we should at least go with a vaguely amusing moniker like "Byereland". Or a good ol' "Éiramach" in ár dteanga féin.

Doltanian wrote: »

I see nothing wrong with Ireland leaving the EU, it has caused this country untold damage since we joined

This is, quite literally, the single dumbest thing I have ever read on this forum. I really hope you're a troll, if not then it's actually quite depressing that somebody like you has a vote equal to that of a rational, educated person.
"I've said it before and I'll say it again - democracy simply doesn't work."

endacl

RasTa wrote: »

Who is going?

Mostly morons. Non-morons will be idiots.

Will I Am Not

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Unfair?
Keeping impressionable people away from those individuals is the most charitable thing anyone will ever do for them.

Sounds a bit fascisty...

ohnonotgmail

endacl wrote: »

Mostly morons. Non-morons will be idiots.

not forgetting the occasional gob****e

bear1

Feck sake where's srameen when ya need him

ohnonotgmail

The Fake Sheikh wrote: »

Sounds a bit fascisty...

and holding what amounts to a rally with no dissenting voices is what exactly?

ArchXStanton

pitifulgod wrote: »

Red C didn't do a Brexit poll but were pretty open to possibility of a leave vote. Can you point me to the swell of public for Irexit? So far it seems to be a minute few.
http://www.redcresearch.ie/brexit-polls-lessons-ireland/

While the EU no doubt enjoys majority support here I don't think it's in the figures they are coming out with,ask the question do you want to be part of a European superstate and I can guarantee you'd get a different result...now if only they would ask the people if they wanted that

The Backwards Man

The Fake Sheikh wrote: »

Sounds a bit fascisty...

Well, if Trump and Brexit have taught us one thing, you can only tolerate the intolerable for so long.

bear1

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and holding what amounts to a rally with no dissenting voices is what exactly?

A great idea judging the select few on here.

bear1

ArchXStanton wrote: »

While the EU no doubt enjoys majority support here I don't think it's in the figures they are coming out with,ask the question do you want to be part of a European superstate and I can guarantee you'd get a different result...now if only they would ask the people if they wanted that

Except it isn't a superstate is it?
Ask them if they want to remain an eu member and then see what they respond.
You can't guarantee anything except your incoherent views.

ArchXStanton

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and holding what amounts to a rally with no dissenting voices is what exactly?

You should head over to the EU fanatics "stand up for Europe" Facebook page...any dissenting voice is banned,including myself...so much for their tolerant,liberal europe

pitifulgod

ArchXStanton wrote: »

You should head over to the EU fanatics "stand up for Europe" Facebook page...any dissenting voice is banned,including myself...so much for their tolerant,liberal europe

It might be due to the quality of your postings....

ohnonotgmail

ArchXStanton wrote: »

You should head over to the EU fanatics "stand up for Europe" Facebook page...any dissenting voice is banned,including myself...so much for their tolerant,liberal europe

probably got tired of the trolls.

Specialun

can some1 elaborate on the tickets fcuk up

im missing it and i feel thick

Harry Palmr

If the EU was as described by some here the UK wouldn't be leaving as it wouldn't be able other than by military means.

ArchXStanton

pitifulgod wrote: »

It might be due to the quality of your postings....

Some people don't like having their comfie blankey questioned,inconvenient truths will do that to the fanatical

ohnonotgmail

ArchXStanton wrote: »

While the EU no doubt enjoys majority support here I don't think it's in the figures they are coming out with,ask the question do you want to be part of a European superstate and I can guarantee you'd get a different result...now if only they would ask the people if they wanted that

so you complain about leading questions and then want to ask people if they wish to be part of something that only exists in your imagination?

bear1

ArchXStanton wrote: »

You should head over to the EU fanatics "stand up for Europe" Facebook page...any dissenting voice is banned,including myself...so much for their tolerant,liberal europe

So... if someone is pro eu then they are then a fanatic?
You can't see the irony that anyone who has said we are better off in the eu within this thread has been responded to with idiotic comments and responses from yourself and a few others?

4068ac1elhodqr

ArchXStanton wrote: »

... do you want to be part of a European superstate and I can guarantee you'd get a different result...now if only they would ask the people if they wanted that

And in a few years time with Turkey in (and moves towards strengthening the 'Barcelona Agreement'), possibility of Italy out and a Danexit an the horizon, opinion could be close to 50:50.

Don't forget the sprinkle of magic powder that is the 12.5% Corp Tax, banished and replaced with EU-wide harmonisation, the economy could take a quick flip very quickly.

Will I Am Not

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and holding what amounts to a rally with no dissenting voices is what exactly?

No different to anything else these days really. I’m sure you would be alright asking questions as long as you’re not disruptive.