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Teenager and child shot in Dublin halting site

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    #212
    MilesMorales1
    Registered Users Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    140 a month for each child under 18.
    Twins get an extra 140 per month, per set of twins.

    So in theory 15 kids under 18, with one set of twins would bring in 2240 per month, plus family income support. I don't know how much that would be, because the website only goes up to 8 children, and 8 would get you about 800 euro per month.
    Of course non travellers can avail of the very same benefits, if they put the work in .... :D !

    I don't want to make this about benefits but.... 2240 x 12 months a year (presumably thats minimum money they could claim) thats is 26,880! Goodness thats a lot of money.


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    #213
    NIMAN
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    15 kids with the same woman I wonder?


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    #214
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    NIMAN wrote: »
    15 kids with the same woman I wonder?

    Poor girl must have a wizards sleeve


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    #215
    branie2
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    Very low to shoot a child


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    #216
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users Posts: 11,191 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    MilesMorales1 wrote: »
    I don't want to make this about benefits but.... 2240 x 12 months a year (presumably thats minimum money they could claim) thats is 26,880! Goodness thats a lot of money.

    That's just the Children's Allowance.
    Add in FIS and it's another 10k at least.
    Plus the dole money.
    Heading towards 50k a year.

    A regular family would need to be earning 80k a year before tax to equal it.


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    #217
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    branie2 wrote: »
    Very low to shoot a child

    About 2'

    Ill get me coat...


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    #218
    J.pilkington
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    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    That's just the Children's Allowance.
    Add in FIS and it's another 10k at least.
    Plus the dole money.
    Heading towards 50k a year.

    A regular family would need to be earning 80k a year before tax to equal it.

    Don’t forget the free house and the €50k is tax free. Really rough maths tells me a family who contribute to society with a job and mortgage would probably need a salary of €120k plus to have €50k after their tax and mortgage payments

    I’m sure posters like ‘end of the road’ will say this is not relevant, but is very relevant. We have gone down the road of wrapping these people up in cotton wool, they are untouchable in so many ways and because of these attitudes (they are special, leave then alone, culture, bla bla) and the actions of the travellers themselves they are completely segregated from modern society and the actions of their protectors are only further escalating this. Net impact is they don’t contribute to society, in fact the very opposite and they have no desire to and we are setting up their kids for failure and actions like we are seeing here (family feuds with no limits) are just the norm for them.


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    #219
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,865 ✭✭✭✭January


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    That's just the Children's Allowance.
    Add in FIS and it's another 10k at least.
    Plus the dole money.
    Heading towards 50k a year.

    A regular family would need to be earning 80k a year before tax to equal it.
    You don't get fis if you're on social welfare you have to be working at least 19.5 hours a week.


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    #220
    dinorebel
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    January wrote: »
    You don't get fis if you're on social welfare you have to be working at least 19.5 hours a week.
    Can definitely rule that out then.


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    #221
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Possession of a firearm, and "making a threat to kill".
    Attempted murder, grevious bodily harm x 3 would seem more like it, if they can prove he fired the gun.
    Yesterday media sources seemed fairly certain that the woman arrested was the actual shooter

    And in the bail conditions " inform the Gardai if you plan to leave the country".

    They are probably just holding charges. The DPP would decide on the more serious stuff.


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    #222
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,865 ✭✭✭✭January


    The 23 year old is in court this morning. Daughter of Dan ó Donovan.


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    #223
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,865 ✭✭✭✭January


    Garda left this morning and guess what's just happened...


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    #224
    PeterParker957
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭PeterParker957


    January wrote: »
    Garda left this morning and guess what's just happened...

    Everyone got together over tea and cake ?

    /sarcasm


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    #225
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,865 ✭✭✭✭January


    They've set one of the houses on fire


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    #226
    PeterParker957
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭PeterParker957


    January wrote: »
    They've set one of the houses on fire

    Damn that was my second guess.

    Utterly pointless people, seriously.


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    #227
    Red_Wake
    Registered Users Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Red_Wake


    January wrote: »
    They've set one of the houses on fire
    Is any news outlet carrying the story?

    Nothing on any of the usual spots.


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    #228
    [Deleted User]
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    FFS


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    #229
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,865 ✭✭✭✭January


    Fun times


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    #230
    January
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    Red_Wake wrote: »
    Is any news outlet carrying the story?

    Nothing on any of the usual spots.

    Its literally just happened.


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    #231
    [Deleted User]
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    And they’ll all get lovely new houses cos it’s a danger to live there


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    #232
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,865 ✭✭✭✭January


    I'll try get more pics on my way back


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    #233
    Hoboo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,524 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Bloody 'el


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    #234
    Geuze
    Registered Users Posts: 13,110 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    J.pilkington wrote: »
    I’m sure posters like ‘end of the road’ will say this is not relevant, but is very relevant. We have gone down the road of wrapping these people up in cotton wool, they are untouchable in so many ways and because of these attitudes (they are special, leave then alone, culture, bla bla) and the actions of the travellers themselves they are completely segregated from modern society and the actions of their protectors are only further escalating this. Net impact is they don’t contribute to society, in fact the very opposite and they have no desire to and we are setting up their kids for failure and actions like we are seeing here (family feuds with no limits) are just the norm for them.

    I agree.

    When will the media state the truth?

    We don't do anybody any favours by ignoring the truth.


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    #235
    irishproduce
    Registered Users Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    As a poster above said, utterly pointless people


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    #236
    Topgear on Dave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,529 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    irishproduce wrote: »
    As a poster above said, utterly pointless people

    Rascist :pac:


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    #237
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,865 ✭✭✭✭January


    Nothing much to see now.


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    #238
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    In before "Something something nontravellers light fires as well"


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    #239
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    January wrote: »
    They've set one of the houses on fire

    How dare you - the proper term is "culturally enriching indoor bonfire", boss

    FFS - shooting a baby and setting their house on fire all in the one week? They're busy if nothing else!


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    #240
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,850 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    In before "Something something nontravellers light fires as well"

    Housewarming...


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    #241
    flutered
    Registered Users Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭flutered


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    That's just the Children's Allowance.
    Add in FIS and it's another 10k at least.
    Plus the dole money.
    Heading towards 50k a year.

    A regular family would need to be earning 80k a year before tax to equal it.
    no wonder they will not or want not to change


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