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Unpopular GAA opinion - MOD Note #426

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  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭MaxPower131


    keane2097 wrote: »
    You don't have stats you have a load of auld blather and comparisons that don't survive first encounter with inspection.

    keane2097 wrote: »
    I don't think this has been proven very well tbh.

    Stats here show inter county GAA compares favourably with major sports leagues around the world:

    https://www.balls.ie/gaa/gaa-attendances-ranked-top-sports-around-world-124430

    Club figures are not easy to come by but nothing in this thread has been particularly convincing that matches aren't well attended compared to other sports. If we compare the number of people going to watch soccer in Crewe on an average weekend to the number of people going to watch GAA in, say, Cavan I doubt we'd have much to be embarrassed about.

    Hahaha. I'm splitting myself here.
    So you have quoted any article based on a tweet by a randomer which is completely wrong in the present time and the article proceeds to insert GAA into the table with a marker:D even though it is completely out of context.

    Quite possibly the worst piece of evidence ever put on boards to support an argument.

    Whos the blatherer now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,745 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Dublin and Mayo get big crowds all the year around and tickets are allocated strictly to club members and season ticket and county pass holders, so don't think either fit into the "event junkies" category. Lots of that type are hangers on from non participating counties who "know someone."

    I'd say a considerable percentage of people who go to Dublin inter county games wouldnt go to more than a handful of club games a year. So I would consider those supporters 'GAA event junkies' - the event being an inter-county game.


  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭MaxPower131


    I knew as soon as I saw this thread that it would attract a small number who would shoot down (or beaat with thistles) anyone you pointed out a glaring obvious fact/criticism of the GAA.

    Anyone who believes that GAA fans (or any other sport in Ireland for that matter) would turn out in their hundreds of thousands for a 46 game minimum season through the depths of winter is living in lala land.

    The introduction of the back door in most inter county and club competitions has seen most teams play one or two extra championship games has resulted in major falls in attendance across the country. As another poster pointed out a four game Munster championship will almost certainly be too games many for fans.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,090 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    I knew as soon as I saw this thread that it would attract a small number who would shoot down (or beaat with thistles) anyone you pointed out a glaring obvious fact/criticism of the GAA.

    Anyone who believes that GAA fans (or any other sport in Ireland for that matter) would turn out in their hundreds of thousands for a 46 game minimum season through the depths of winter is living in lala land.

    The introduction of the back door in most inter county and club competitions has seen most teams play one or two extra championship games has resulted in major falls in attendance across the country. As another poster pointed out a four game Munster championship will almost certainly be too games many for fans.

    I don't think anyone thinks that fans would turn out in hundreds of thousands for a 46 game season.

    I do think however that you might be able to sustain possibly 4k averages for the big teams and possibly 500 or less averages for the smaller teams.

    Compared to England with 10 times the population that would be 40,000 and 5,000, which is what EPL teams down to Div 4 teams get

    The above would of have to exist in a world where there was little or noting below that level

    In the present setup there is a lot of well supported levels below inter-county.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 10,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    I guess professionalism would force that on the game to get revenue.

    I think the UK guys attend more games.

    I'm happy with the amount of games we have in the GAA. It's different to professional soccer, I haven't enjoyed the atmosphere in many of the soccer games I've been to and I'm not ashamed to say that I prefer watching them on TV.

    I also have no real interest in the LOI again that's the way it is, each to their own. What ever time I have to watch soccer I'll watch it at the highest standard available to me, and it's less and less times these days.

    Each to their own I know plenty of people who attend loi games and feel attached to their teams, that just never happened for me, the county bond is stronger and I can only spend so much time watching sport.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,770 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    I knew as soon as I saw this thread that it would attract a small number who would shoot down (or beaat with thistles) anyone you pointed out a glaring obvious fact/criticism of the GAA.

    Anyone who believes that GAA fans (or any other sport in Ireland for that matter) would turn out in their hundreds of thousands for a 46 game minimum season through the depths of winter is living in lala land.

    The introduction of the back door in most inter county and club competitions has seen most teams play one or two extra championship games has resulted in major falls in attendance across the country. As another poster pointed out a four game Munster championship will almost certainly be too games many for fans.

    No one believes that I'd say.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,090 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Stoner wrote: »
    I guess professionalism would force that on the game to get revenue.

    I think the UK guys attend more games.

    I'm happy with the amount of games we have in the GAA. It's different to professional soccer, I haven't enjoyed the atmosphere in many of the soccer games I've been to and I'm not ashamed to say that I prefer watching them on TV.

    I also have no real interest in the LOI again that's the way it is, each to their own. What ever time I have to watch soccer I'll watch it at the highest standard available to me, and it's less and less times these days.

    Each to their own I know plenty of people who attend loi games and feel attached to their teams, that just never happened for me, the county bond is stronger and I can only spend so much time watching spot.

    Professionalism is a different kettle of fish altogether

    Personally I think a professional football scenario would result in 6 teams.
    Dublin
    Rest of Leinster
    Ulster
    Connacht
    Kerry
    Munster

    There is not the critical mass of population nor the international element to financially sustain much more

    But like yourself I am happy with the amount of games we have in GAA, I happy, to a certain extent, with the structure, it does not bother me a hoot if a game is not full.


  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭MaxPower131


    I don't think anyone thinks that fans would turn out in hundreds of thousands for a 46 game season.

    I do think however that you might be able to sustain possibly 4k averages for the big teams and possibly 500 or less averages for the smaller teams.

    Compared to England with 10 times the population that would be 40,000 and 5,000, which is what EPL teams down to Div 4 teams get

    The above would of have to exist in a world where there was little or noting below that level

    In the present setup there is a lot of well supported levels below inter-county.

    Allowing for the population don't forget we are talking 96 teams in the football league v 32 in the GAA.

    Over a 46 + game seaon the only team I could see getting 4k support would be the Dublin footballers and at a stretch maybe Mayo.

    As I said at the start the support just isn't there.

    There is also a very strong non league football and Sunday league football in England(again 40+ games) so the argument about the club scene in ireland just doesn't hold water.


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