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'I just want a home for my children' - mum on housing list for 12 years

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    #1742
    boardsuser1
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    No different to many in the private rental market then?

    I lived in several private residences over the years and they were diabolical.

    The council houses, well the old ones at least, are far from up to scratch, but they are better than many in the private sector, now more so than ever.


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    #1743
    ELM327
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    If these properties were owner occupied could the same be said? Or would they get off their butts and clean the gaff?
    Most of the stuff I read in the article, like mould, sewage issues etc are down to the user and not the landlord, and attributable to lack of due care imo.

    Mould: Use the heating more and or vent the room. If the vent is blocked notify LL to have it cleared as it's a health issue.

    Sewage issues: LL should have been notified as sewage issue is gradually onset so the tenant would notice it getting worse.


    in private tenancies the above would be expected of the tenant to (a) take minor preventative actions and (b) notify landlord.


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    #1744
    ELM327
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    No different to many in the private rental market then?

    It's similar in both, at least, in the comparable market segments (lower end of private rental sector and the public rental sectors (social housing, HAP, rent allowance)
    Cork Truck Driver wrote: »
    I lived in several private residences over the years and they were diabolical.

    The council houses, well the old ones at least, are far from up to scratch, but they are better than many in the private sector, now more so than ever.
    +1
    Generally council houses (especially older ones from the 80's and back) are actually very well built, better than a lot of newer private estate houses.


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    #1745
    LirW
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    ELM327 wrote: »
    Generally council houses (especially older ones from the 80's and back) are actually very well built, better than a lot of newer private estate houses.

    Plenty of council houses from the 70s and 80s are actually build from cavity blocks and they are a nightmare to heat and insulate since this is an almost lethal form of building that brings a lot of problems.
    I live in an ex council house that was build in the 80's and it takes a lot of effort and money to get this to a decent standard. Cavity blocks are indeed a huge factor when mould occurs and dampness is rising.

    It's shocking to think that a lot of houses are build in such a way.


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    #1746
    boardsuser1
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    LirW wrote: »
    Plenty of council houses from the 70s and 80s are actually build from cavity blocks and they are a nightmare to heat and insulate since this is an almost lethal form of building that brings a lot of problems.
    I live in an ex council house that was build in the 80's and it takes a lot of effort and money to get this to a decent standard. Cavity blocks are indeed a huge factor when mould occurs and dampness is rising.

    It's shocking to think that a lot of houses are build in such a way.

    My own place is built of cavity blocks.

    It was insulated a few years ago.

    When the heating is on the place is like a sauna.

    The interior walls are all only plaster boards.

    My brother's ex's house is from the 60's, a council house also, and the interior walls were solid block.

    We had some job renovating it with the amount of dust etc.


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    #1747
    LirW
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    The combination of cavity blocks and drylining can cause a huge mould problem down the line.

    I found a really great article about that in relation to health issues like Asthma, since I've been working in that field.

    http://www.josephlittlearchitects.com/articles/breaking-mould-1-study-condensation-single-leaf-concrete-wall-upgrades
    It comes as a surprise to many people, even those within the Industry, that every drylined wall buildup, no matter how good, will result in vapour condensing inside it every Winter. This is because the insulation isolates the masonry wall so that its room-face cannot warm as before and consequently becomes more uniformly cool and also wetter [3]. This is typically where the most extreme temperature change takes place and vapour condenses.

    It evaluates a nation-wide problem really well.


    Wrong maintenance is a contributor to mould but if you're living in a house that was built with the wrong materials - a huge number of houses in the country are - you can find yourself fighting rising dampness and mould with a bit of bad luck.
    So if you already have a house that is in the wrong area, of poor quality and has the wrong insulation installed already, there's literally nothing you can do as a tenant.


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    #1748
    boardsuser1
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    24 year old mother of 4 is calling on the council to house her as she is in 1 bedroom with her kids in her mother's residence.

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/young-mum-forced-live-tiny-11488078


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    #1749
    neonsofa
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    Cork Truck Driver wrote: »
    24 year old mother of 4 is calling on the council to house her as she is in 1 bedroom with her kids in her mother's residence.

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/young-mum-forced-live-tiny-11488078

    Its in Edinburgh, how is it relevant to this thread?


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    #1750
    LollipopJimmy
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    Cork Truck Driver wrote: »
    24 year old mother of 4 is calling on the council to house her as she is in 1 bedroom with her kids in her mother's residence.

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/young-mum-forced-live-tiny-11488078

    ?

    What has the situation is Scotland got to do with this?


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    #1751
    boardsuser1
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    LollipopJimmy wrote: »
    ?

    What has the situation is Scotland got to do with this?

    Similar stories and both in the common travel area.


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    #1752
    neonsofa
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    Cork Truck Driver wrote: »
    Similar stories and both in the common travel area.

    Thats some reach


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    #1753
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    You mean to say there is "homeless" people in other countries?

    Quick goolge search shows every country in the world has homeless people.

    Some expectation put on leos shoulders to come up with a solution to a worldwide problem.

    But we do love a good whinge moan and blame game


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    #1754
    I love Sean nos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭I love Sean nos


    "Before I moved in, my relationship with my mum was really good. Now it is really strained.
    I'm not surprised.


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    #1755
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Anyone see your own on the 6 o clock news there?

    Mother of 5 in limerick just got a house after been in a hotel.

    She has a 3 WEEK old baby!!!!

    The mind just doesn't boggle anymore.


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    #1756
    Donal55
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    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Anyone see your own on the 6 o clock news there?

    Mother of 5 in limerick just got a house after been in a hotel.

    She has a 3 WEEK old baby!!!!

    The mind just doesn't boggle anymore.

    An early Christmas present.


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    #1757
    suicide_circus
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    I have 4 kids and the state has to house me. Better have another kid.


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    #1758
    Wheeliebin30
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    I have 4 kids and the state has to house me. Better have another kid.

    One of her kids had to leave the hotel as only 5 children allowed in room.

    Real responsible parenting there, sound job.


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    #1759
    Donal55
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    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    One of her kids had to leave the hotel as only 5 children allowed in room.

    Real responsible parenting there, sound job.

    Rumour going round here that about dozen Syrians in Ballaghaderreen are also pregnant.


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    #1760
    tomwaterford
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    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    One of her kids had to leave the hotel as only 5 children allowed in room.

    Real responsible parenting there, sound job.

    What do yous suggest the state do??

    Take the children off them like olden days and give em to industrial schools etc?

    That ended well the last time :rolleyes:


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    #1761
    baldbear
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    Donal55 wrote: »
    Rumour going round here that about dozen Syrians in Ballaghaderreen are also pregnant.

    The cheek of them coming over here RIDING.

    I bet you anything those Syrians will be working given the chance. It's the scrounging Paddys that annoy me.


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    #1762
    Wheeliebin30
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    tomwaterford wrote: »
    What do yous suggest the state do??

    Take the children off them like olden days and give em to industrial schools etc?

    That ended well the last time :rolleyes:

    Im sorry I didn't realise there is industrial schools still open?

    Where are they?


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    #1763
    Donal55
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    baldbear wrote: »
    The cheek of them coming over here RIDING.

    I bet you anything those Syrians will be working given the chance. It's the scrounging Paddys that annoy me.

    I was equating the point that some bird from Limerick living in a hotel gives birth and fire and brimstone is hailed down on her.

    100 miles up the road in Balla 14 birds from Syria living in a hotel are pregnant and yet you ask that they should be 'given a chance'.

    Why would you not give the one from Limerick the same credence?


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    #1764
    tomwaterford
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    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Im sorry I didn't realise there is industrial schools still open?

    Where are they?

    Well just as suspected.....no solutions to offer :rolleyes:....I showed yous the only historic tactic used to solve what yous bemoan about


    And you don't appear to have not 1 single solution to solve this woman's situation.....why do I bother engage this nonsense


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    #1765
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Is it not normal to call out irresponsible anti social behaviour?


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    #1766
    weldoninhio
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    tomwaterford wrote: »
    Well just as suspected.....no solutions to offer :rolleyes:....I showed yous the only historic tactic used to solve what yous bemoan about


    And you don't appear to have not 1 single solution to solve this woman's situation.....why do I bother engage this nonsense

    Offer women €5k to get their tubes tied after they’ve had 2/3 kids. Povvers will take the short term view and snap that up. Would save the country a fortune in the long run.


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    #1767
    tomwaterford
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Offer women €5k to get their tubes tied after they’ve had 2/3 kids. Povvers will take the short term view and snap that up. Would save the country a fortune in the long run.

    Tbh I do think this should be offered to everyone once they turn 18


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    #1768
    weldoninhio
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    tomwaterford wrote: »
    Tbh I do think this should be offered to everyone once they turn 18

    Yeah, could be. People living in hotels and churning out kids don’t generally plan long term.


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    #1769
    Wheeliebin30
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    tomwaterford wrote: »
    Well just as suspected.....no solutions to offer :rolleyes:....I showed yous the only historic tactic used to solve what yous bemoan about


    And you don't appear to have not 1 single solution to solve this woman's situation.....why do I bother engage this nonsense
    Are you telling me there is no places for kids who need to be removed from families nowadays?

    That if a child is been neglected they have to remain with the parents?


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    #1770
    Spanish Eyes
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    Any mention of a husband/partner/father in the Limerick story.

    That is NEVER asked or mentioned in dispatches.


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    #1771
    Wheeliebin30
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    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Any mention of a husband/partner/father in the Limerick story.

    That is NEVER asked or mentioned in dispatches.

    Of course not.


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