Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - Capital Punishment

muddle84

yaboya1 wrote: »

doc_17 wrote: »

Well done to Dublin winning the game today in a ground that they have already played in 8/9 times already this year against a team that played there today for the 2nd time this year.

Very poor.
You think you'd at least get your facts right first.

Just wondering which bit is incorrect? (I'm not arguing for or against any point btw) I just thought his numbers were right?

kilns

Id say Ewan McKenna is currently writing his hate speech article as we speak, we should see it in the next few days, he is so predictable:D

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No excuses from me, just commenting on the game I saw.

Where you there?

It is not possible to offer a comment on "off-the-ball" actions from watching a match in your sitting-room as too much of it is missed by the immediate camera. You need to be at a game to be able to see what is going on.

At best therefore, your comments are uninformed.

blanch152

kilns wrote: »

Id say Ewan McKenna is currently writing his hate speech article as we speak, we should see it in the next few days, he is so predictable:D

His attempts to wind-up Tyrone and boost the siege mentality in his last article about Mickey Harte fell flat on their face.

Tombo2001

I watched the game on TV; hard to say in retrospect if Dublin were ever potentially 'in trouble'.

But for sure, when Tyrone went 5 - 1 up, I'm sure Dubs fans were a bit uncomfortable. A goal then for Tyrone would really have ruffled the Dubs.

But instead what we had was an absolutely incredible kick out from Cluxton to McCaffrey that led to a point from Kilkenny. For me it was the turning point in the game.

The other point, Darragh O'Se's column last wednesday I think called it very well; regarding how Tyrone play. His two points were
- they will go at you like a whirlwind for 15 or 20 minutes and hope to build up enough of a lead in that time to hold on for the rest of the game.
- back in 2007/08 they had the personnel to exploit that 15 -20 minutes and to hold on for the remainder; they dont now.

I think this describes the game really well yesterday, because for all the superlatives describing the Dubs, really Tyrone should have scored 6 or 7 points more than they actually did.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Where you there?

It is not possible to offer a comment on "off-the-ball" actions from watching a match in your sitting-room as too much of it is missed by the immediate camera. You need to be at a game to be able to see what is going on.

At best therefore, your comments are uninformed.

You could see it clearly on the telly for goodness sake. Smalls got caught red handed early in the game. You could see men with the tell tale slowness to react.
If you go to club football and follow your county team to matches, you know exactly what is going on.

I had a brother and brother in law at the game and they were commenting on whats app all during the game on it. My brother in law is from Ballinteer, and even he remarked on it.
We have also a few neutrals commenting on it here. So put the rose tinted glasses back in their case. You are not going to be believed.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You could see it clearly on the telly for goodness sake. Smalls got caught red handed early in the game. You could see men with the tell tale slowness to react.
If you go to club football and follow your county team to matches, you know exactly what is going on.

I had a brother and brother in law at the game and they were commenting on whats app all during the game on it. My brother in law is from Ballinteer, and even he remarked on it.
We have also a few neutrals commenting on it here. So put the rose tinted glasses back in their case. You are not going to be believed.

So you weren't there and are relying on second-hand reports. Noted.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

So you weren't there and are relying on second-hand reports. Noted.

Yeh, the lads had to tell me that Philly rugby tackled Cavanagh to the ground, Smalls wrapped his arms around a Tyrone player like he loved him, that again and again players were uncharacteristically slow to the ball etc etc.

You didn't get away with painting your side as saints, there are plenty saying the same as me, get over it.

Edgware

Another Sam for Dublin. All that can stop them winning five is themselves and complacency.
I cant see that happening. There's a line of talent coming through that Jim Gavin can draw on so any "established" player really has to watch his back.
Its hard to see where the opposition is coming from as the usual contenders are a bit mixed up. Kerry will have a new manager, Mayo have pushed the self destruct button as usual, Mickey could call it a day in Tyrone. The Super 8 ( not that I saw any Super 8) suits Dublin as they are not getting any competition in Leinster

kilns

They are all little petty things and Dublin can do it just as good as anyone if they want but the difference is teams like Tyrone have to do it to try and compete
Sometimes its the small things that go unnoticed which are the very sneaky things which teams like Tyrone are "very good" at.  For example there was one example, when Rock lifted his jersey up and you could see a red mark on his body, that is from pinching hard which opposition players hope for a reaction from, everyone does it but when you see someone reacting out of nothing it usually those type of things which make them react.   It is a sign of this Dublin team that they rarely react as they know they just have to wait and they will eventually will come out on top and get their revenge that way.
It was nice reading Saint Mickey in the Independent, saying its not sour grapes but...

yaboya1

muddle84 wrote: »

Just wondering which bit is incorrect? (I'm not arguing for or against any point btw) I just thought his numbers were right?

Tyrone weren't playing there for the 2nd time this year.

muddle84

yaboya1 wrote: »

muddle84 wrote: »

Just wondering which bit is incorrect? (I'm not arguing for or against any point btw) I just thought his numbers were right?

Tyrone weren't playing there for the 2nd time this year.

Of course!! They played in it in the Super 8's too. So they played three times in Croke Park this year?

blanch152

kilns wrote: »

They are all little petty things and Dublin can do it just as good as anyone if they want but the difference is teams like Tyrone have to do it to try and compete
Sometimes its the small things that go unnoticed which are the very sneaky things which teams like Tyrone are "very good" at.  For example there was one example, when Rock lifted his jersey up and you could see a red mark on his body, that is from pinching hard which opposition players hope for a reaction from, everyone does it but when you see someone reacting out of nothing it usually those type of things which make them react.   It is a sign of this Dublin team that they rarely react as they know they just have to wait and they will eventually will come out on top and get their revenge that way.
It was nice reading Saint Mickey in the Independent, saying its not sour grapes but...

The difference is some teams integrate the nasty stuff as essential parts of their gameplay. Tyrone are one of those.

Slattsy

I had a 10er on Scully to score the first goal. Stupid Mannion scoring penalties and ruining my bet!

Just catching up on TSG now, what a game. The head isn't too bad either.

Really thought we controlled that game once we got the penalty, it was never in doubt.

yop

Well done lads, better team all year and barely tested again yesterday. Can't see ye been beaten next year again unless the squad go on the beer for a year. Enjoy your celebrations.
Mayo to be the Offaly of the 80's

ProudDUB

kilns wrote: »

Id say Ewan McKenna is currently writing his hate speech article as we speak, we should see it in the next few days, he is so predictable:D

No. They only ever let him use crayons on Mondays. It's for his own safety and the safety of all the other inmates.

EICVD

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yeh, the lads had to tell me that Philly rugby tackled Cavanagh to the ground, Smalls wrapped his arms around a Tyrone player like he loved him, that again and again players were uncharacteristically slow to the ball etc etc.

You didn't get away with painting your side as saints, there are plenty saying the same as me, get over it.

Will you get his name right at least, it’s Small not Smalls!

EICVD

kilns wrote: »

They are all little petty things and Dublin can do it just as good as anyone if they want but the difference is teams like Tyrone have to do it to try and compete
Sometimes its the small things that go unnoticed which are the very sneaky things which teams like Tyrone are "very good" at.  For example there was one example, when Rock lifted his jersey up and you could see a red mark on his body, that is from pinching hard which opposition players hope for a reaction from, everyone does it but when you see someone reacting out of nothing it usually those type of things which make them react.   It is a sign of this Dublin team that they rarely react as they know they just have to wait and they will eventually will come out on top and get their revenge that way.
It was nice reading Saint Mickey in the Independent, saying its not sour grapes but...

McCanns early point, as he runs away he hits Mannion in the stomach, much more forceful than the Harte-Small incident. Delighted he gave the penalty away & was looking at Kilkennys arse for the rest of the game.

FrancieBrady

EICVD wrote: »

McCanns early point, as he runs away he hits Mannion in the stomach, much more forceful than the Harte-Small incident. Delighted he gave the penalty away & was looking at Kilkennys arse for the rest of the game.

It's 'McCann's' and 'Kilkenny's' actually, to be similarly pedantic.

EICVD

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It's 'McCann's' and 'Kilkenny's' actually, to be similarly pedantic.

Tanx 4 ur input

FrancieBrady

EICVD wrote: »

Tanx 4 ur input

Dats very 'bigs' of you!

Joe Daly

Well done Dublin see Irish begrugary is at its best, its good to see the four in a row completed by two lienster teams this century in hurling football.

ProudDUB

U ok hunzos?

yobr

Hector Bellend wrote: »

When non Dublin GAA fans have used all of their excuses and have started clutching at straws to denigrate Dublins achievements, you know youre onto a winner.

Correct, there are a number on this forum who try and disguise their contempt for Dublin with their “analysis”. Anyone who disagrees is labled as “arrogant”.
They feel let down that Mickey Harte tactical genius came up short and there other last hope that “dublin only win by a point” didnt work either so they resort to snide remarks. The fact that Morgan gave us 1-2 seems lost on them.

blanch152

EICVD wrote: »

McCanns early point, as he runs away he hits Mannion in the stomach, much more forceful than the Harte-Small incident. Delighted he gave the penalty away & was looking at Kilkennys arse for the rest of the game.

Who took out Mannion early on? It was 3-1 for Tyrone and Mannion ended up on the floor off the ball. I didn't see that incident.

Cavanagh should have got black before half-time and while Small made a meal of it, any strike to the face is a red card and Harte should have been off.

Slattsy

Ah they're a great bunch of lads. Love seeing them out in Crumlin and Temple St, you can really see the joy in the kids' faces, some kids who we all know are quite ill. It could be anyones little boy or girl..

And one other thing, it's certainly no chore or PR stuff with them, you can see they really want to be there, they know they are role models for a lot of young children, what this success entails is much more than what goes on in the pitch. Humbling stuff.

It makes me very emotional seeing it.

FrancieBrady

If the ref had black carded Small when he caught him taking a player out we might not have had so much of it.

BonnieSituation

If my aunty had balls...

STB.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

There was lots of off the ball stuff going on. Both teams were dragging pulling and blocking runs.

Smalls got pinged for it, Philly was at it all day and cost them a penalty. Tyrone did their share too.

It's a tired cliche now whenever Tyrone play that they are the only ones doing it.

Well Francie I was actually at the game and Tyrone were the ones constantly at it. At least 3 incidents happened in front of Conor Lane, were Dublin players passing the ball were taken out in third man tackles. And he ignored them. I suspect he had a handicap bet himself!

That and the encroachment shíte that Tyrone were at when Rock was taking the frees that were actually awarded.


I guess the Monaghan thread is quite this time of the year when the medals are handed out The four in a row is made all the sweeter by green eyed monsters like you. Thanks for dropping by. Good Luck!!!!!

yop

yop wrote: »

Well done lads, better team all year and barely tested again yesterday. Can't see ye been beaten next year again unless the squad go on the beer for a year. Enjoy your celebrations.
Mayo to be the Offaly of the 80's

Yes, the best team of the year deservedly won this year's A.I.

We are definitely searching for a Seamus Darby type figure in Mayo in case it comes down to it.........