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Good Friday Drinking

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    #182
    dresden8
    Registered Users Posts: 3,289 ✭✭✭dresden8


    Noddyholder wrote: »
    The pubs are not closed for religious religions now, there closed because of state law, so when the state changes the law, they can open.

    The pubs aren't closed. Was out Thursday night in a Dublin city centre pub. They opened for food on Friday. No day off for the staff.


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    #183
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    It's the right move to remove it; there's no good reason to have it there from a legislative point of view. I can though envisage there being a certain nostalgia when thinking back to the moaning we used to do about it and the unofficial National House-Party Day. :pac:


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    #184
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Right I'll tell my mother she should put her house in order because she had to change my grandfather's colonoscopy bag for five years after drunken fall. I saw her drunk once in my life but yet she was very much affected by excessive drinking. Tell that to children who are sneaking out of the house to avoid their drunk rambling parent. Tell that to victims of drink driving and their families. Tell that to sick people in a&e who have to wait for the night while staff deal with passed out drunks. But yeah it doesn't affect you so it's not a problem.
    The main problem is that people don't know how to drink responsibly.
    It's like a race to get drunk these days especially with the younger drinkers.


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    #185
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,126 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Deedsie wrote: »
    It's a complex societal issue with pro's & cons..

    It's really not. This law was brought in on religious grounds 90 years ago, it has no justification whatsoever and needs to go.

    Jayop wrote: »
    Christmas for a lot of people has nothing to do with religion. A lot of people don't go to Mass and Christmas is just seen as a nice family holiday with a tree and some gift giving.

    The bolded parts are all pagan traditions which long pre-date christianity (as does easter) so nobody need feel any guilt or hypocrisy whatsoever about celebrating holidays in a non-religious manner.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #186
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Go to some of the Muslim countries and try and change their laws based on religion and you'd be arrested. At least that doesn't happen here.
    Things are not that bad here. The pubs are only closed 2 days a year.
    I'm not religious and i couldn't care a lot about it so i can't see the problem.


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    #187
    Jayop
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    Go to some of the Muslim countries and try and change their laws based on religion and you'd be arrested. At least that doesn't happen here.
    Things are not that bad here. The pubs are only closed 2 days a year.
    I'm not religious and i couldn't care a lot about it so i can't see the problem.

    Just because it doesn't effect you doesn't mean it's not wrong. It's a farcical law and should be long gone. Also saying 'it's worse in other places' the is of no difference.

    I don't go out on a Friday too often so it won't bother me either but I still think it should be done away with.


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    #188
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Jayop wrote: »
    Just because it doesn't effect you doesn't mean it's not wrong. It's a farcical law and should be long gone. Also saying 'it's worse in other places' the is of no difference.

    I don't go out on a Friday too often so it won't bother me either but I still think it should be done away with.
    It's gone next year.


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    #189
    Jayop
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    It's gone next year.

    I'm aware of the legislation.


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    #190
    CeilingFly
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    Off licences will be looking for compensation as they'll be losing their busiest day of the year.


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    #191
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    Indulge in all your earthly pleasures.

    Hell awaits.


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    #192
    Fred Swanson
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    This post has been deleted.


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    #193
    Hotblack Desiato
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    It's gone next year.

    That's what they said last year.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #194
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,126 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Indulge in all your earthly pleasures.

    Hell awaits.

    Citation needed.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #195
    Glenster
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    The main problem is that people don't know how to drink responsibly.
    It's like a race to get drunk these days especially with the younger drinkers.

    As opposed to the old days when it was just a coincidence that the drinks we were drinking were alcoholic.

    People have always drank to get p*ssed, otherwise we'd have been drinking tea.

    If you weren't drinking like the sky was about to fall down when you were younger its cos you weren't invited to the cool parties.


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    #196
    4ensic15
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    Glenster wrote: »
    As opposed to the old days when it was just a coincidence that the drinks we were drinking were alcoholic.

    People have always drank to get p*ssed, otherwise we'd have been drinking tea.

    If you weren't drinking like the sky was about to fall down when you were younger its cos you weren't invited to the cool parties.

    I remember a time when people took pride in being able to hold their drink. It meant, even if drinking a lot, still retaining sufficient self-control. Getting drunk was for foolish schoolboys and tinkers.


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    #197
    Hotblack Desiato
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    Deedsie wrote: »
    Reference? Where in 2016 did any member of the government say they would not oppose legislation to remove the ban on the sale and distribution of alcohol on Good Friday from 2017 onwards?

    They didn't but that wasn't what I said in my post, read it again.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/pubs-to-remain-closed-on-good-friday-says-frances-fitzgerald-1.2505332
    Thu, Jan 21, 2016

    Pubs will remain closed on Good Friday 2016 despite a campaign from vintners for the alcohol ban to be lifted.

    Minister for Justice Frances Fitzgerald on Thursday ruled out an imminent change to the trading rule. “I won’t be doing it this year,” she told RTÉ radio. But she added that it is an issue that would be considered under new alcohol laws.

    In other words, not annoying the god botherers by making an actual commitment to remove the ban, but not annoying everyone else by ruling it out either.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #198
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Glenster wrote: »
    As opposed to the old days when it was just a coincidence that the drinks we were drinking were alcoholic.

    People have always drank to get p*ssed, otherwise we'd have been drinking tea.

    If you weren't drinking like the sky was about to fall down when you were younger its cos you weren't invited to the cool parties.

    On the contrary. Many drink because they like a drink but dislike getting drunk. Very rare to see drunks on the streets in many countries.


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    #199
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,126 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Very rare to see drunks on the streets in many countries.

    Doesn't mean they aren't getting sloshed on a regular basis behind closed doors.

    Not seeing drunks on the street probably says more about how the police operate in that country rather than how much the public drink. Ireland's per capita consumption is lower than quite a few countries.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #200
    murpho999
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    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Doesn't mean they aren't getting sloshed on a regular basis behind closed doors.

    Not seeing drunks on the street probably says more about how the police operate in that country rather than how much the public drink. Ireland's per capita consumption is lower than quite a few countries.

    Either way, Irish people do binge more and drink to get drunk more than other countries.

    Other countries might have a lot more people who would have a few beers daily whilst many Irish would abstain during the week and go mad at the weekends.
    We have a very different attitude to drink than other countries.
    Either way, the Good Friday drinks ban does nothing to tackle this it just does the opposite.


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    #201
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Doesn't mean they aren't getting sloshed on a regular basis behind closed doors.

    Not seeing drunks on the street probably says more about how the police operate in that country rather than how much the public drink. Ireland's per capita consumption is lower than quite a few countries.
    Not buying that as an excuse.
    The French people introduce their children to table wine at an early age and i've been with foreign people who can sit over two drinks for hours.
    No rush to get drunk there whereas our youth think it's a competition to see who can get sloshed the fastest.
    As I say we need to educate people at an early age on how to use alcohol correctly.


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    #202
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,126 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Not buying that as an excuse.
    The French people introduce their children to table wine at an early age and i've been with foreign people who can sit over two drinks for hours.
    No rush to get drunk there whereas our youth think it's a competition to see who can get sloshed the fastest.
    As I say we need to educate people at an early age on how to use alcohol correctly.

    They still drink more than us though.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_consumption_per_capita

    2010 WHO data

    1st Belarus 17.5L
    ...
    18th France 12.2L
    ...
    21st Ireland 11.9L


    2015 WHO data (OECD countries only)

    1st Czech Republic 14.1L
    ...
    8th France 11.6L
    ...
    12th Ireland 10.9L

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #203
    Reputable Rog
    Registered Users Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Not buying that as an excuse.
    The French people introduce their children to table wine at an early age and i've been with foreign people who can sit over two drinks for hours.
    No rush to get drunk there whereas our youth think it's a competition to see who can get sloshed the fastest.
    As I say we need to educate people at an early age on how to use alcohol correctly.

    Couldn't agree more, nothing worse than oberserving an Irish person abroad ordering Chardonnay with a well done steak.


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    #204
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    They still drink more than us though.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_consumption_per_capita

    2010 WHO data

    1st Belarus 17.5L
    ...
    18th France 12.2L
    ...
    21st Ireland 11.9L


    2015 WHO data (OECD countries only)

    1st Czech Republic 14.1L
    ...
    8th France 11.6L
    ...
    12th Ireland 10.9L
    The French might actually drink more because they drink wine with their lunch and other meals. They don't however drink to get drunk like we do. They know how to drink.


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    #205
    Murrisk
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    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    They still drink more than us though.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_consumption_per_capita

    2010 WHO data

    1st Belarus 17.5L
    ...
    18th France 12.2L
    ...
    21st Ireland 11.9L


    2015 WHO data (OECD countries only)

    1st Czech Republic 14.1L
    ...
    8th France 11.6L
    ...
    12th Ireland 10.9L

    I'd be interested to know how that alcohol is imbibed. The figures don't tell all.


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    #206
    Murrisk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 889 ✭✭✭Murrisk


    Reputable Rog wrote: »
    Couldn't agree more, nothing worse than oberserving an Irish person abroad ordering Chardonnay with a well done steak.

    Yeah right, you and others seems to be get a thrill from being to pontificate to others or just judge from afar when something like the above happens.


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    #207
    Reputable Rog
    Registered Users Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    Murrisk wrote: »
    Yeah right, you and others seems to be get a thrill from being to pontificate to others or just judge from afar when something like the above happens.

    Pot, Kettle, Black, my sanctimonious pal.


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    #208
    Murrisk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 889 ✭✭✭Murrisk


    Reputable Rog wrote: »
    Pot, Kettle, Black, my sanctimonious pal.

    Ah, you're a 'pal' person. Carry on. :D


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